Ottawa County Sheriff on the loose
09-07-2007, 07:28 AM
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We were there last nite, Larry says the rest of the dock is going to be slips next year, no more Oral Gables
I can't believe they sold out to the dock sitters, we used to get 50+ boats on that dock. Saugatuck is now closed and dead. Go to Pigeon Lake (Port Sheldon), it has become a good spot but no nite life.
I can't believe they sold out to the dock sitters, we used to get 50+ boats on that dock. Saugatuck is now closed and dead. Go to Pigeon Lake (Port Sheldon), it has become a good spot but no nite life.
09-07-2007, 11:34 AM
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The problem with most Cops is their us against them mentality. In their mind your already a criminal and everyone lie's, etc. Cops are trained to take control of situations, argue with them and they will step up to the level neccessary to maintain that control over you; someone in their head that's already "guilty" of something.
09-07-2007, 12:23 PM
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When a police officer orders you to start your engine for a db test, politely refuse. It's not like a breath test that counts against you if you refuse. I would love to see what they try and cite you for when you refuse. I'll take that citation before a judge every day of the week and have the officer explain that he ticketed you for refusing to pull your boat off of a sandbar and start it up.
The REAL crime here is not allowing the use of switchable exhausts- a lot of $$$ is spent to have these systems, and most use them in an effort to be respectful in the marinas and other noise-sensitive areas. It's the area of the law that needs the most work, IMHO.
Everyone is sensitive to noise of one type or another- I've been working on private jets for 25+ years and can't stand the noise of them anymore, and I don't care much for cars that have been turned into vibratory spam cans from hip-hop playing subwoofers. And, sorry to those that own them with open pipes, but I can't stand Harleys-they easily exceed 100+db, and the law is doing nothing about them. I live on the river on a scenic route, and I can hear them coming from miles away (BTW, I have no problem with muffled ones)
I still love the sound of an offshore performance boat , and I don't see the problem in just letting us enjoy them as long as we are respectful. Kevin is right- politicians are stupid, and if you do the work for them, some good might come from it.
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09-07-2007, 12:29 PM
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We got warned while touring Lake Michigan a month ago. I sent an email to the mayor and all of the city council members expressing my dispeasure, and that i would not spend money in GH again.
I got no response. Zero. Nada. Nyet. Nothing.
They don't care if another performance boat ever goes there.
I got no response. Zero. Nada. Nyet. Nothing.
They don't care if another performance boat ever goes there.
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09-08-2007, 12:50 AM
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I agree up north is great! I boat on the Bay and Torch lake 90% of the time and the cops don't even give me a second look. But I am concerned that this may spread throughout the state.
And the fact that these cops are pulling this crap and getting away with it irritates the chit out of me!
And the fact that these cops are pulling this crap and getting away with it irritates the chit out of me!
You guys are right, it is a money thing. But society is getting soft too. My opinion, keep your loud exhaust. Don't conform to today's society. My .02
09-08-2007, 09:29 AM
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That's amazing that they are doing that.
09-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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The following is a list of DECIBEL INTENSITIES taken from Encarta 2005.
0-Threshold of hearing
10-rustle of leaves, a quiet whisper
20-average whisper
20-50-quiet conversation
40-45-hotel, theater between performances
50-65-loud conversation
65-70-traffic on a busy street
65-90-train
75-80-factory noise( light/medium work)
90-heavy traffic
90-100-thunder
110-140-jet aircraft at takeoff
130-threshold of pain
140-190-space rocket on takeoff
0-Threshold of hearing
10-rustle of leaves, a quiet whisper
20-average whisper
20-50-quiet conversation
40-45-hotel, theater between performances
50-65-loud conversation
65-70-traffic on a busy street
65-90-train
75-80-factory noise( light/medium work)
90-heavy traffic
90-100-thunder
110-140-jet aircraft at takeoff
130-threshold of pain
140-190-space rocket on takeoff
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