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Old 09-18-2007, 11:42 AM
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Reverse current relay is good. Flip switch from start to charge. 24v from the relays is not a bad idea, just be sure that you can feed the starters with enough current. There are some electronics boxes to change 24 to 12, kinda like a charge isolator. Personally, I'd run two sets.

Sixes need a lot of flow to turn quick, still trying to find a pump that works...current one won't cut it.
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Reverse current relay is good. Flip switch from start to charge. 24v from the relays is not a bad idea, just be sure that you can feed the starters with enough current. There are some electronics boxes to change 24 to 12, kinda like a charge isolator. Personally, I'd run two sets.

Sixes need a lot of flow to turn quick, still trying to find a pump that works...current one won't cut it.

The KRC i used on the piston engines was not really up to the task eithier. And I had a pulley on it the size of a dime.
There was a slight pullsation at idle.
The turbines will idle higher so using this same pump may surfice.

You had asked how the electric air over hydraulic work.

When 24 volt (micro switch on shifter) is applied to the coil the air from the onboard air compressor is fed to the pneumatic valve causing the cylinder to compressor. This is mechanicaly connected to
the master cylinder which is hydraulic connected to the caliper
this engages the caliper. Stopping the rotor.

Pretty neat aye?
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Can the turbine over rev, causing expensive damage?

Is this the time to convert to arnesons?

The limiting factor on this install would most likely
be the sixes. They are all fresh and ready to be torn up.

The only way I will convert unless Rik Wimp at Arneson
is going to swop me for the sixes. But I,m pretty sure I know the answer hell give me.
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the AMF/Geico 51 ol has the sixes and they seem to do ok, except when they split the case in half in 2005 at Point Pleasant, and that boat is probably a good chunk heavier than the cat?
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The sixes will last longer with the Turbines infront of them than the piston engines. This has been proven.

If you swap the sixes for arnisons, your steering will change some (around the docks), or you could fix the drive and install a ruder.

If the sixes worked in the past, why change?
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OI!! Nice Pic... whered you pull that from?? lol

We will have it on display along with a cutaway version of the -11 engine and a Rolls Royce engine cutaway at the LOTO OSS Nationals...

Any help you want with the engines let me know... we are located just north of Toronto and travel through out the United States. 11 years experience maintaining and troubleshooting turbine engines in the Aerospace industry.
Hey Howie did you build this turbine?
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The sixes will last longer with the Turbines infront of them than the piston engines. This has been proven.

If you swap the sixes for arnisons, your steering will change some (around the docks), or you could fix the drive and install a ruder.

If the sixes worked in the past, why change?
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Docking will not be different, worst or anything bad.

Rudder around docks, now that would be a nightmare!
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Ahhhh.. Bull Shti

Docking will not be different, worst or anything bad.

Rudder around docks, now that would be a nightmare!

A rudder is definitely more work at slow speeds.but once you get the hang of it is not that bad. On one engine it is very challenging. Essentially it's like docking a yacht you steer with your engines not your rudder.

However, once your running in a high speed and or competitive application the rudder/bpm set up is the only way to go.

I do not believe the sixes will give you the ride or reliability you are looking for.

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You had asked how the electric air over hydraulic work.

When 24 volt (micro switch on shifter) is applied to the coil the air from the onboard air compressor is fed to the pneumatic valve causing the cylinder to compressor. This is mechanicaly connected to
the master cylinder which is hydraulic connected to the caliper
this engages the caliper. Stopping the rotor.

Pretty neat aye?
Is that system something you came up with or did you get it as a complete unit? Whats the advantage over an electric-hydraulic unit?


Hey Marc, so you're running a fully manual system, no power assist?

Good thread guys.
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A rudder is definitely more work at slow speeds.but once you get the hang of it is not that bad. On one engine it is very challenging. Essentially it's like docking a yacht you steer with your engines not your rudder.

However, once your running in a high speed and or competitive application the rudder/bpm set up is the only way to go.

I do not believe the sixes will give you the ride or reliability you are looking for.

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You have to dock them just like you dock a boat with a crash box.

Above 50-60 they start to work well, below that is another story.
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