130.3 MPH Single V
#23
Good write up BTW. As I read the questions keep coming. Forgive me all the inquires, but your the man that just walked on the moon.
The story mentions a conservative X height, that is the whole thing right there. I'm not a motor guy, so I probably dont appreciate the hp as much as I should. But to avoid blow out at that speed especially without full surfacing the drive is awesome. I assume that you will be experiencing laminar detachment of water flow at the front of the case, which would explain the high % slip and the boats desire for alot of cup. What really scares me is the paddle wheel high pitch of a prop trying to walk the boat sideways and create blow-out. Do you have some kind of torque device on your skeg? What is the drive height? Does the boat want to crab? Are you picking up water cooling through the drive?
Mark
The story mentions a conservative X height, that is the whole thing right there. I'm not a motor guy, so I probably dont appreciate the hp as much as I should. But to avoid blow out at that speed especially without full surfacing the drive is awesome. I assume that you will be experiencing laminar detachment of water flow at the front of the case, which would explain the high % slip and the boats desire for alot of cup. What really scares me is the paddle wheel high pitch of a prop trying to walk the boat sideways and create blow-out. Do you have some kind of torque device on your skeg? What is the drive height? Does the boat want to crab? Are you picking up water cooling through the drive?
Mark
All of the things you mentioned are specific to different boats. I have had the boat crab sideways before I had the prop and drive skag just right. The skag is long,,,,,,,,,,,almost a foot below propshaft centerline. This does two things for this boat. It keeps the lateral movement to a minimum and it is deep enough to have some "drag" in the water which seems to keep the bow where I want it. I do not feel any crabbing whatsoever below 125 mph, although I did catch a slight bit when I ran it over 130 mph. Just a slight drift "so to speak", pretty natural for this kind of speed/set up in a vee or a cat. The bottom of this boat is very different from yours, so the x-dimension and set ups will be completely different. I am sure if you called Mike Willen over at Howard, he would love to talk to you. I know when you guys ran 95 mph with a 525, I was on the phone to him
More than anything, we started with a good/fast/stable vee and put some decent power to it. That was the start. At some point, power didnt seem to make that much of a difference and it became all about the mechanics of what was hanging in the water and how it made the boat feel. Stability was the key. I could care less if this boat ran 150 mph if it was out of control. We have all had those boats that you had to drive really loose to get the last two mph,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I did not want this boat to be like that, besides, at WOT if you over trim it, it will blowout and not go any faster. It just pulls until its done or until it hits the rev limiter. It took 130.3 for it to not hit the rev limiter and lay there. I guess thats about all she can do
You gotta draw the line somewhere, right? Now if youguys go out and run 131 mph,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then I guess it's back to the drawing board
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Gary:
Awesome results for your motor and Howards hull with your keen drive science !
I would think any furthur increase in speed except for the most ideal condtions on this size hull would be just a little to risky. I have lost it in a boat a 103 mph and I nearly died in the process. Losing it in any boat at 130mph is catistrophic and the survival chances are not good!
130 mph, in a light small v-hull, You've won, game over. Stay around and keep building those great motors!
Hearse's don't have luggage racks!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Awesome results for your motor and Howards hull with your keen drive science !
I would think any furthur increase in speed except for the most ideal condtions on this size hull would be just a little to risky. I have lost it in a boat a 103 mph and I nearly died in the process. Losing it in any boat at 130mph is catistrophic and the survival chances are not good!
130 mph, in a light small v-hull, You've won, game over. Stay around and keep building those great motors!
Hearse's don't have luggage racks!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
#27
Gary:
Awesome results for your motor and Howards hull with your keen drive science !
I would think any furthur increase in speed except for the most ideal condtions on this size hull would be just a little to risky. I have lost it in a boat a 103 mph and I nearly died in the process. Losing it in any boat at 130mph is catistrophic and the survival chances are not good!
130 mph, in a light small v-hull, You've won, game over. Stay around and keep building those great motors!
Hearse's don't have luggage racks!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Awesome results for your motor and Howards hull with your keen drive science !
I would think any furthur increase in speed except for the most ideal condtions on this size hull would be just a little to risky. I have lost it in a boat a 103 mph and I nearly died in the process. Losing it in any boat at 130mph is catistrophic and the survival chances are not good!
130 mph, in a light small v-hull, You've won, game over. Stay around and keep building those great motors!
Hearse's don't have luggage racks!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Ray,
You are absolutely right about getting wet. I am the last guy that wan'ts to go swimming. BUT, I feel there are things that I need to do for my business and for the industry as a whole. I cannot prevent a mechanical failure at high speed(I have had many, its not fun), but I can do my safety checks, wear the proper gear and rely on my experience at the helm to keep me dry. You can quote me on this, "You will not see this boat being tested any further, I feel that I have found the best possible combination, and I have maximized the speed/safety of this particular boat". I will be running it at the Desert Storm Shootout, just to see how it does in a mile, not to go any faster. I really appreciate all of the guys in the industry that are concerned for my safety, and think it's very admirable that you stated it the way that you did on a public forum(seriously). We will have the boat on Display Thursday night at the Desert Storm Street fair from 6:00-9:00pm. Ray, if you are around, please come by and introduce yourself..
Last edited by GT; 03-17-2008 at 11:35 PM.
#28

You can get the the water in Lake Havasu City, AZ.
But you should not bring any home with you, its full of deadly "Quagga Mussles(seriously).






