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Old 07-24-2008, 08:47 AM
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They finally exonerated the boat capt., it took 5 weeks of the papers saying he was drunk before the truth came out,the local judge is pizzed. sorry I took a photo of the paper(my scanner is home in key west) thanks..... Bobcat
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:12 AM
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No , the boat could hold 25, but they had added the upper deck since last year, I think the 6-7 of us up there probably (and before any fat jokes it rolled opposite of my side) caused it to be top heavy, along with a gust of wind then over correction, the papers here say the captain was arrested for bui but we know they let him go.
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Yes- full of senior citizens- many of them didn't make it.

IIRC, the boat was improperly modified causing it to be top-heavy.
A lot of those people were from Michigan on a senior citizens tour. Report follows from investigation into that capsizing. I wonder how boats can be modified and not recertified for commercial tour use? Seems like it should be illegal. I sure as heck wouldn't put a flybridge on an 8' beam boat. I remember when Bayliner did it and they flipped over all the time in the straits off Port Angeles WA.

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On July 25, 2006, the final report for the Ethan Allen boating accident was released by The National Transportation Safety Board. It established that Ethan Allen had capsized as a result of insufficient stability. The US Coast Guard was responsible for the original certification of the vessel, then called the Double Dolphin. It was thought that the original certification of 48 was allowed due different test standards applied in 1966; passenger weight difference was not responsible for those differences.

When the owner of the Double Dolphin fitted the boat with an elaborate pipe structure and canvas top, the center of gravity was raised and more importantly the projected side area vastly increased. The boat continued to be inspected and certified by the USCG for 48 persons. They should have performed another test. According to the NTSB Naval Architect, Rob Henry, if that test had been performed, the boat would not have been certified to carry any passengers due to insufficient stability to the load of the wind heel. So from a rating of 48 passengers it would have been 0.

Many years later in the mid 1970s the boat along with two other sister vessels were sold after a company insolvency to Shoreline Cruises, Lake George NY. The US Coast Guard certificates were at that point still current and valid. New York State vessel regulators were given those certificates and based on the US Coast officially stating (incorrectly) that the boat had sufficient reserve stability to safely carry 48 passengers and 2 crew. NY regulators then give the boat the same rating. In 1989, when the owner had a hard (wood and fiberglass) top installed to replace the pipe structure canopy, it was determined that its lower height more than compensated for its slightly greater weight and vessel stability was increased to the point that passenger loading would have gone from 0 with the former top to 14 passengers. Because of the increase of stability, state regulators did not require a new stability test of the vessel, and the rating continued at 50.

The capsizing occurred due to a series of events according to the NTSB. The total load was over three times greater than it should been, the pilot made a hard turn to the right at speed, the seating arrangement put three people on the left versus two on the right (giving a permanent two degree list to port), and the bench seats had no way of stopping involuntary sliding, so the centrifugal force of the hard turn caused involuntary movement of the passengers to the port. That movement increased the list to port and the increased list caused more sliding. Within seconds the center of gravity was no longer over the hull and the boat rolled over.

It was also confirmed that the number of passengers (47) was too many and that the boat was only capable of carrying 14 passengers.
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Looks like a two story canoe.

Ok so since it was a happy ending with everyone saved,
I have to ask........ Did the lobsters make it?
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Yes, we had a cookout the next day.
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guess they didn't make it then
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