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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2603435)
Do you mean a case where someone thought they were getting a tow under a membership arrangement and the provider claims it to be a salvage?
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Originally Posted by handfulz28
(Post 2603470)
If you can throw an anchor, are you still considered in peril?
Originally Posted by handfulz28
(Post 2603470)
If you are truly in peril, how many boaters will have the werewithall to pull out their salvage contract and negotiate their rescue?
Originally Posted by handfulz28
(Post 2603470)
For those boaters with insurance, do you have the 24hr service number programmed into your cell phone?
Originally Posted by handfulz28
(Post 2603470)
What's worse: dropping anchor in a navigable waterway and explaining to USCG/law enforcement why you did it, or having a "salvor" come and rescue you only to have them hold your boat hostage when you can't pay their fee? |
Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 2603510)
Yes, or even any case involving the misleading nature of the membership vs. maritime laws.
Look at it this way- do you read your auto insurance policy? Do you note the changes they make? Or do you, as with 99.99% of all others, assume that "somebody" is watching out for you and that being a "reputable" corporation. They wouldn't pull anything underhanded? Well, in this case, there's no state insurance commission or attorneys general looking out for you. |
Originally Posted by BY U BOY
(Post 2603479)
Ok the boat was handed over to sea tow to be towed to the crane. Sea tow handed the boat back over to another boat which took it to the crane??
In my mind they neglected to finish the "salvage"job and there for forefit the compensation. Also if you can prove that the boat suffered continued damage while under sea tows control you can claim Salvor's negligence. |
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2603521)
If you're taking on water that you are unable to stay ahead of, you certainly are.
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2603521)
It's not a requirement. In fact, you have a legal requirement as the operator of the craft as well as a contracutual requirement under your insurance to do as necessary to prevent the loss. If Sea Tow is there and your boat goes down while you dicker price, you're going to have an uncomfortable conversation with your adjuster.
However, considering the universe of boaters, not everyone has insurance. So as a sidebar, useless trivia question, what is the "legal requirement" to prevent a boat from being lost? Hazard to nav, enviro issues, being just plain stupid aside, is there a violation of law if your boat sinks?
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2603521)
VHF. Alot of these operators have contract arrangements with the tow companies. I believe any USCG licenced tow/salvage operator may accept your membership and receive payment.
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2603521)
If your boat is in peril, the CG will probably take issue with you declining the services of a salvor. If you present a hazard to navigation, the CG will likely instruct the salvor to secure your craft and take you aboard. Payment is a portion of your craft's value, of which they will apply a lien. If you're insured, I'd be surprised to find that you lacked salvage coverage.
Regardless of whether or not you have service, or who you have service with, I hope we'll all remember if we're ever in a situation, to confirm whether we're being towed or salvaged. What a sh!tty legal case it would be to have a salvage lien on your boat. What's to stop the SIB Sea Tow operator from doing that if AMEX gives them the shaft? |
For the uninsured, owing a third of your boat's value has to be better than having it on the bottom. Legally speaking, if your boat is on the bottom, you are responsible for its removal. If your boat leaks pollutants, you're responsible to remediate and remedy all the damage that costs. I have a friend that pais $450,000 because of a 20 gallon diesel spill, but that's a whole other story.
The operators meant salvage companies. Some are contractors, some even fly the SeaTow colors, but they;ll take whatcha' got. I would thoroughly expect that the incident at Sunny Isles will get nasty before it goes away. This isn't the first trip to the dance for the ST boys- they're armed to the teeth with legal strategies for getting paid. |
Originally Posted by t500hps
(Post 2598797)
Not alot of tow boats where I boat and would hate to ever call one. I've towed a number of boats in over the years (usually 2 a summer) and will not accept payment from them. I do stress that they are now in-debted to tow SOMEONE ELSE in next time they have the opportunity.
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Originally Posted by cuda
(Post 2603657)
I'm the same way. I just tell them to pass on the goodwill, and don't break the chain.
I never pass up someone with the hatch up. |
I just had a conversation with some execs. and VP's at Boat US regarding this issue.
Here is in a nut shell of the answers. While Boat US "licensees" are required to inform as to salvage or tow... it's know that some bad apples will not and they are just out for a quick scam. Attorney, insurance companies and arbitration can settle the 'salvage" issues but obviously it's a head ache. The owner/captain should ask SPECIFICALY if the service will be a tow or salvage. Make sure your boat nsurance has "Stu ( I think that's what they said) and labor coverage. Have a documents on board and have the "tower" whom ever that might be sign it that it will NOT be a salvage and when if it becomes or changes, the owner/captain will be notified of such. In short.. while it seems BoatUS are the better bunch. it's up to us .. boaters to be aware and carefull with towing etc... Boat insurance companies should be contacted and get their DIRECT take on each incured. I will call mine in a few.. and make the appropriate docs.. (just in case.) |
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