Favorite Offshore 25ft and smaller?
11-30-2008 | 04:48 PM
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From: New Jersey
11-30-2008 | 06:21 PM
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From: Stockholm, Svea Rike
close to jump of the da*n boat in 45mph speed ......
prostock, I hope everthing is fine with you
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11-30-2008 | 07:07 PM
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From: EASTON MA.
The post above is confusing....
Questions:
1. What is " Pole Position?"
2. Who is the "we" in "we're the best"....
Regarding the listing you linked to.
1. What does this have to do with boats 25 feet and under?
2. Can you sort this nightmare by powerplant(s) so as to get "apples to apples" comparisons?
3. Does a boat attaining xxx mph in 1988 mean anything when compared to a more recent test with newer props and drives?
Aside from talking in circles about the validity or non validity of boat tests from....... West Coast Publications......What is your point?
T2x
Questions:
1. What is " Pole Position?"
2. Who is the "we" in "we're the best"....
Regarding the listing you linked to.
1. What does this have to do with boats 25 feet and under?
2. Can you sort this nightmare by powerplant(s) so as to get "apples to apples" comparisons?
3. Does a boat attaining xxx mph in 1988 mean anything when compared to a more recent test with newer props and drives?
Aside from talking in circles about the validity or non validity of boat tests from....... West Coast Publications......What is your point?
T2x
11-30-2008 | 07:09 PM
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From: Mine Hill, NJ/Lake Hopatcong, NJ
Knowing what I know now, it wasn't the greatest, but until I got the 312, it was my largest boat to date. It felt solid and tracked well. I was only on the boat in lake conditions so I guess I haven't experienced much.
11-30-2008 | 07:13 PM
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From: EASTON MA.
Roktoy- here is a comprehensive breakdown of speed tests by brand stating- power, test date , testing authority, and of course radar/gps speed. It doesn't take into account props however but you can look at the dates and get archive info from the various testers magazine.
By comparing relative boat lengths with identical power you can get a good idea of a brands hull efficiency of course there's a chance a manufacturer could rig a light layup for a test, but I doubt it as the boats go on to be sold and a "race layup" is a huge liability in a product with a 10-20 year lifespan.
Before cries of "foul" start and the "chin music" begins flowing- you should know that when boat is featured in a magazine the actual vendor is almost always present for the "top speed test", and allowed to drive it themselves if not happy with the results. This stops the "bought and paid for BS" from the start.
Enjoy!
Uncle Dave
Laveycraft 2750 Ilmor-710
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406 SB
Fleetwood nitrous toy hauler
Yamaha raptor 700
Nissan Titan
By comparing relative boat lengths with identical power you can get a good idea of a brands hull efficiency of course there's a chance a manufacturer could rig a light layup for a test, but I doubt it as the boats go on to be sold and a "race layup" is a huge liability in a product with a 10-20 year lifespan.
Before cries of "foul" start and the "chin music" begins flowing- you should know that when boat is featured in a magazine the actual vendor is almost always present for the "top speed test", and allowed to drive it themselves if not happy with the results. This stops the "bought and paid for BS" from the start.
Enjoy!
Uncle Dave
Laveycraft 2750 Ilmor-710
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406 SB
Fleetwood nitrous toy hauler
Yamaha raptor 700
Nissan Titan
and for its birthday we are building a 1000hp motor to replace the 1993 650hp motor oh by the way my boat won PB in 1988.
. Artimus
11-30-2008 | 07:43 PM
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Uhh not sure.
Im not sure I understand your question.
Your quote of mine was taken quite a ways into a complex discussion that included step benefits if any, as well as hull construction (hand laid/vacuum bad, and resin infusion as techniques available today.)
My point was the document provided shows identical manufacterers models that used identical power with the difference being steps.
This data can then be used by the original poster to discern what the various hull in his size ranged test at and at what power.
Almost, but not all tests conducted show some % gain for steps. It varies but most hulls show a gain. Id be happy to look at as comprehensive a document from anyone here.
Even highly respected East Coast builders like Joe at Pantera claim an increase (actually he claims 10% with no handling decrease- please take a look at the Pantera 28 SR and read his posts. )
Im sticking with what the numbers show vs stories without data backing them up. Please post any data you have that compares the hulls the poster was interested in. I'd like to see them.
Take a look at my Laveycraft 2750 in the Laveycraft forum and tell me what you think.
"Uncle Dave"
Laveycraft 2750 Ilmor 710
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406 SB
