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papawayne@comcas 11-22-2008 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Magicfloat (Post 2745045)
Here is a thought. Someone start a poll,choices would be the amount LLD should refund,$14000,$12000,$5100,$0,or some other amount. Have both parties agree to abide by the results after it runs a certain # of days. No lawyers fees involved.The key to this is both sides would have to agree to abide by the results,and I doubt that would happen.


NICE! I like that. Its a whole lot better than this stupid pissing contest. I cant believe this is still going on. Man up..do the right thing, this isnt rocket science here:ernaehrung004:

pm203 11-22-2008 11:04 AM

Before you guys end up killing each other; LDD says he wants to work it out. Let's give him some time to see what he comes up with.

spilman 11-22-2008 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by papawayne@comcas (Post 2745060)
NICE! I like that. Its a whole lot better than this stupid pissing contest. I cant believe this is still going on. Man up..do the right thing, this isnt rocket science here:ernaehrung004:

He CAN'T!! He already spent the $dough$......lol

I would have already sued him, period.

ZP'd 11-22-2008 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by papawayne@comcas (Post 2745060)
NICE! I like that. Its a whole lot better than this stupid pissing contest. I cant believe this is still going on. Man up..do the right thing, this isnt rocket science here:ernaehrung004:

It is to the person with no integriy. :rolleyes:

Eddito 11-22-2008 07:09 PM

you got to be kidding me.

ROTAX454 11-22-2008 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by getchasum111 (Post 2745030)
is this still going on....no resolution yet

And over on BoatFreaks, I was told (after removing my post) that these two were working things out. That was sometime ago and by the posts here, those two are still at it. My money is on the idea of "He has spendt the money".

I got $20 bucks that says (and you can quote me):
LDD AND PROSTOCK WILL NOT HAVE NOT RESOLVED THIS BY 4-1-09

Why you ask am I so confident? I have 670 and counting posts that validates my bet.

fund razor 11-23-2008 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by THEJOKER (Post 2744670)
You're a no balls scum bag. I look at you the same way I see trash at the bottom of a dumpster.

I disagree. Not trash. Too concrete. Too easy to grasp.
You need something more elusive....

That smelly liquid that accumulates in the bottom of a dumpster behind a bad restaurant. Try that.

ZP'd 11-23-2008 08:46 AM

Here's a idea for Dumb Dumb Duck.
No neeed for a bunch of wasted time ...
No need to contact or have Prostock contact you.

JUST SEND BACK THE 14K MINUS THE 2K DEPOSIT !!!

WHAT is so hard about this that you can't figure out? :rolleyes:

nordic95 11-23-2008 10:03 AM

Im sure we will see real soon how LDD wants to resolve this.Prostock and LDD have been in comunication with each other and they should have a resolve today.That is if LDD mans up and pays what Prostock will except.So lets hope LDD sees the errors of his ways and really wants to show us he is not a bad guy after all.:eek:

Nordic95

Powerplay25 11-23-2008 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2745517)
Im sure we will see real soon how LDD wants to resolve this.Prostock and LDD have been in comunication with each other and they should have a resolve today.That is if LDD mans up and pays what Prostock will except.So lets hope LDD sees the errors of his ways and really wants to show us he is not a bad guy after all.:eek:

Nordic95


Of course you are counting on the fact that he still HAS the money. Or not......

spilman 11-23-2008 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Powerplay25 (Post 2745832)
Of course you are counting on the fact that he still HAS the money. Or not......


Exaaaactly!......I'd bet NOT

long duck dong 11-24-2008 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by Powerplay25 (Post 2745832)
Of course you are counting on the fact that he still HAS the money. Or not......


Originally Posted by spilman (Post 2745842)
Exaaaactly!......I'd bet NOT

STFU already about "IF" I have "THE MONEY"....who the f*ck are you to assume anything?.....Did you not see pictures of my home and cars?....what in your wildest idiotic lamest assumption would make any of you think "IF" I have the money...:Whatever:

Prostock didnt get your PM until now, I cant check my work email from my home computer after the email is pulled from the mail server to my work computer..... I left my outlook express open on my computer at the office...I will check it first thing in the morning and respond...

The rest of you need to STFU, mind your own business and back up and let progress be made toward a resolution.

long duck dong 11-24-2008 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2745517)
Im sure we will see real soon how LDD wants to resolve this.Prostock and LDD have been in comunication with each other and they should have a resolve today.That is if LDD mans up and pays what Prostock will except.So lets hope LDD sees the errors of his ways and really wants to show us he is not a bad guy after all.:eek:

Nordic95

With all due respect Anthony, you also need to help tone it down....Its not about what Prostock wants, and its not about what I want.....It's about what we mutually agree is fair....if he and I can not mutually agree then we can start pointing the finger in who made error.... .I asked him for his logic behind his settlement figure so I can try and understand and justify his perspective. Hopefully he will take into consideration my perspective and make an effort to see things from my view....If we both can see where each other stand and come up with a $$$ figure we are both happy with we are good... If not we are back at square one....

fund razor 11-24-2008 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by long duck dong (Post 2745907)
STFU already about "IF" I have "THE MONEY"....who the f*ck are you to assume anything?.....Did you not see pictures of my home and cars?....what in your wildest idiotic lamest assumption would make any of you think "IF" I have the money...:Whatever:

Pictures of cars and houses are not proof of money held, they are proof of money spent. Receipts for purchases and expenses are not wealth.
In fact.... it could be logically argued that those things are evidence that a young man is tapped out.

Maybe if you had a bunch of pictures of income producing assets, people could assume that you refusal to pay the kid back is due to a shortage of ethics rather than a shortage of cash.

stainless 11-24-2008 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by ZP'd (Post 2745477)
Here's a idea for Dumb Dumb Duck.
No neeed for a bunch of wasted time ...
No need to contact or have Prostock contact you.

JUST SEND BACK THE 14K MINUS THE 2K DEPOSIT !!!

WHAT is so hard about this that you can't figure out? :rolleyes:

Perfect! :ernaehrung004:

29Firefox 11-24-2008 07:41 AM

Both sides need to man up!!!
 
So I guess the lynch mob is still in favor of not holding both parties to their word. Donger drew up a smelly contract but Pro Boy was an idiot to sign and not fully comply with. So we just let Pro Boy off cause he is too stupid to read and comprehend what he is signing? Donger owes Pro Boy a refund of what ever is above & beyond the original agreed upon price between Donger & Pro Boy. The lynch mob be hollering about Donger needing to man up? How about Pro Boy better man up to what he himself signed off on! Pro Boy got cold feet over the dock rash? COMPLETE the terms of the contract! Then sue Donger for false representation and make him pay for the repairs! I'd be right up there hollering for Donger to make right under those terms. But sign a contract and then not follow through? That ain't right either. Theres chit on both ends of the stick but the lynch mob is only sniffing on one end:Whatever:

Audiofn 11-24-2008 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by 29Firefox (Post 2745959)
So I guess the lynch mob is still in favor of not holding both parties to their word. Donger drew up a smelly contract but Pro Boy was an idiot to sign and not fully comply with. So we just let Pro Boy off cause he is too stupid to read and comprehend what he is signing? Donger owes Pro Boy a refund of what ever is above & beyond the original agreed upon price between Donger & Pro Boy. The lynch mob be hollering about Donger needing to man up? How about Pro Boy better man up to what he himself signed off on! Pro Boy got cold feet over the dock rash? COMPLETE the terms of the contract! Then sue Donger for false representation and make him pay for the repairs! I'd be right up there hollering for Donger to make right under those terms. But sign a contract and then not follow through? That ain't right either. Theres chit on both ends of the stick but the lynch mob is only sniffing on one end:Whatever:


That is becasue if I am buying a house and I put down a deposit and my financing is a little late coming in, how often will the seller just go out and sell the house to another party..... NOT often if ever. This guy offered to pay for the boat just 1 working and 3 callender days after the "contract" expired and Donger told him to go pound sand. He then waited weeks to sell it by other means (ebay.....). He (donger) should have taken the money from Prostock at that point and this deal would have been over. Instead he sold the boat to some one else with no way for anyone to varify how much he really sold it for and prostock is left holding the bag. LDD complains that Pro did not get in touch with him for 3 days... well didn't his phone work? He should have worked things out with Prostock BEFORE he sold the boat to another person.

29Firefox 11-24-2008 08:12 AM

What would you do?
 

Originally Posted by Audiofn (Post 2745965)
That is becasue if I am buying a house and I put down a deposit and my financing is a little late coming in, how often will the seller just go out and sell the house to another party..... NOT often if ever. This guy offered to pay for the boat just 1 working and 3 callender days after the "contract" expired and Donger told him to go pound sand. He then waited weeks to sell it by other means (ebay.....). He (donger) should have taken the money from Prostock at that point and this deal would have been over. Instead he sold the boat to some one else with no way for anyone to varify how much he really sold it for and prostock is left holding the bag. LDD complains that Pro did not get in touch with him for 3 days... well didn't his phone work? He should have worked things out with Prostock BEFORE he sold the boat to another person.

Just answer me one simple question! If Donger had sent you that contract would you have signed it? :drink:

Audiofn 11-24-2008 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by 29Firefox (Post 2745980)
Just answer me one simple question! If Donger had sent you that contract would you have signed it? :drink:

Some what loaded question :D

If I had intended to buy the boat and I knew I had the money then why not. As I understand it (and I could be wrong), the issue came up with the undisclosed damage to the boat from the ramp issue that pro saw on another site. Other then that Pro had up to that time made all payments on time (even paid more then the required payments).

29Firefox 11-24-2008 08:32 AM

Its that simple...
 

Originally Posted by Audiofn (Post 2745984)
Some what loaded question :D

If I had intended to buy the boat and I knew I had the money then why not. As I understand it (and I could be wrong), the issue came up with the undisclosed damage to the boat from the ramp issue that pro saw on another site. Other then that Pro had up to that time made all payments on time (even paid more then the required payments).

I think you & I are the same..... no way in hell would either of us sign that contract. In my post I said finish the contract then sue over the dock rash. That simple! What Pro Boy did was slap some KY between his cheeks (sign the contract). Then bend over and grab his ankles (not comply with the contract).:drink:

Shore Thing 11-24-2008 08:38 AM

I think I speak for most people on here when i say that this is an issue of human morality. There is a right and wrong thing to do here regardless of what contracts were signed.

I think most people would do "the right thing" and refund the 12k. contract or no contract, he's a thief in my book.

RunninHotRacing163.1 11-24-2008 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by 29Firefox (Post 2745999)
I think you & I are the same..... no way in hell would either of us sign that contract. In my post I said finish the contract then sue over the dock rash. That simple! What Pro Boy did was slap some KY between his cheeks (sign the contract). Then bend over and grab his ankles (not comply with the contract).:drink:

What Pro Boy did was slap some KY between his cheeks Then bend over and grab his ankles ...

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

So you know prostock personally ???? :rolleyes:

Audiofn 11-24-2008 08:47 AM

I could have gone all week with out that picture being painted :D

It is always hard to buy a boat or anything like this when you are not face to face. I drove from MA to VA to look at a Donzi. I asked him very specific questions about the condition of the boat. He said what I wanted to hear and I jumped in my truck with my brother and drove 12 hours down there. When I got to his house I thought it was a joke. The boat was a total POS and everything that I had asked him about the boat he had lied about. I was pissed to say the leaste and told him that I would not take the boat if he gave it to me. Then I had a nice 12 hour drive home with out the boat in tow. It amazes me what sellers think that they can get away with. With out seeing the boat first hand I would have wanted a back out clause in there in case I found something like what happened in this case of course (trailer and hull damage). From the contract it is not spelled out what the cause of action would be IF pro did not come through with the monies.

nordic95 11-24-2008 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by 29Firefox (Post 2745959)
So I guess the lynch mob is still in favor of not holding both parties to their word. Donger drew up a smelly contract but Pro Boy was an idiot to sign and not fully comply with. So we just let Pro Boy off cause he is too stupid to read and comprehend what he is signing? Donger owes Pro Boy a refund of what ever is above & beyond the original agreed upon price between Donger & Pro Boy. The lynch mob be hollering about Donger needing to man up? How about Pro Boy better man up to what he himself signed off on! Pro Boy got cold feet over the dock rash? COMPLETE the terms of the contract! Then sue Donger for false representation and make him pay for the repairs! I'd be right up there hollering for Donger to make right under those terms. But sign a contract and then not follow through? That ain't right either. Theres chit on both ends of the stick but the lynch mob is only sniffing on one end:Whatever:

1)You also have to remeber that the damage was not disclosed to Prostock and he didnt find it on another web till just a day or two before the finale payment was made.

2)LDD also never followed thru with a survey that was promised before the contract end.

3)LDD and Prostock spoke via e-mail the next day SATURDAY and LDD told Prostock that they could continue the dealings on Monday because it was fathersday weekend and LDD had things to do with his kid.I Have the e-mail LDD so dont make a fool of yourself again!!!!

4) The contract was signed because he had the funds to buy the boat and had all intensions of doing so till the issues arose.

5) So LDD you admit on a public forum that the money is no issue.Then why do you need a payment plan?????

Anthony

29Firefox 11-24-2008 08:50 AM

Time to be fair!!!
 

Originally Posted by Shore Thing (Post 2746007)
I think I speak for most people on here when i say that this is an issue of human morality. There is a right and wrong thing to do here regardless of what contracts were signed.

I think most people would do "the right thing" and refund the 12k. contract or no contract, he's a thief in my book.

What is the right thing? We just let Pro Boy walk on his responsibilities? In my book people who break contracts are just as bad as thieves!:drink:

nordic95 11-24-2008 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by 29Firefox (Post 2746019)
What is the right thing? We just let Pro Boy walk on his responsibilities? In my book people who break contracts are just as bad as thieves!:drink:

You are right FIREFOX,so prostock broke a contract if you say so.Then refund 12,000.00 and keep the two thousand for breatch of contract.Done deal

Shore Thing 11-24-2008 09:01 AM

For me, the right thing would be to return 12k and keep the 2k for the trouble and possible loss of sale to someone else.

Last month i had a renter sign a lease to rent my old house. I took it off the market for 30 days and then 3 days before he was supposed to move in, he sent my real estate agent a letter saying that his family plans have changed and he was going to stay in D.C. and not move afterall.

Legally, i could take him to court for the $17k he owes me in rent. Instead i kept his security deposit for the 30 days that i had the house off the market. It has not rented back out yet, but I sleep well at night.

In my opinion i have a better case than LDD, but i know the difference between right and wrong. No matter what, LDD keeping 12k of someones money without providing anything in return is pure thievery.

nordic95 11-24-2008 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Shore Thing (Post 2746034)
For me, the right thing would be to return 12k and keep the 2k for the trouble and possible loss of sale to someone else.

Last month i had a renter sign a lease to rent my old house. I took it off the market for 30 days and then 3 days before he was supposed to move in, he sent my real estate agent a letter saying that his family plans have changed and he was going to stay in D.C. and not move afterall.

Legally, i could take him to court for the $17k he owes me in rent. Instead i kept his security deposit for the 30 days that i had the house off the market. It has not rented back out yet, but I sleep well at night.

In my opinion i have a better case than LDD, but i know the difference between right and wrong. No matter what, LDD keeping 12k of someones money without providing anything in return is pure thievery.

EXACTLY....So lets see what LDD says today.

ZP'd 11-24-2008 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Shore Thing (Post 2746007)
I think I speak for most people on here when i say that this is an issue of human morality. There is a right and wrong thing to do here regardless of what contracts were signed.

I think most people would do "the right thing" and refund the 12k. contract or no contract, he's a thief in my book.


AMEN!

WTF, Remind me a piece of paper is held in a MUCH higher standard to some on this board then expecting people to "do the right thing"

Prostock hand all correspondance with this clown Dumb duck dong to a lawyer, he's a arrogant nobody still playing a 'look at me" game with no cash to pay you, he's basically stolen your inheritence and needs his rear sitting in front of a judge.

No-one is going away duck, keeping this thread at the top so people know exactly what kind of human being you are appears to be a mission of about 12K boaters, the same number YOU need to send Prostock yesterday, fool.
Keep burying yourself for future scams.

lawdocx3 11-24-2008 09:13 AM

Why would someone want to possibly ruin their business over 12k. Just give the 12k back and save face.

Audiofn 11-24-2008 09:17 AM

What page was the contract posted on again?

Boomer35 11-24-2008 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2746016)
1)You also have to remeber that the damage was not disclosed to Prostock and he didnt find it on another web till just a day or two before the finale payment was made.

2)LDD also never followed thru with a survey that was promised before the contract end.

3)LDD and Prostock spoke via e-mail the next day SATURDAY and LDD told Prostock that they could continue the dealings on Monday because it was fathersday weekend and LDD had things to do with his kid.I Have the e-mail LDD so dont make a fool of yourself again!!!!

4) The contract was signed because he had the funds to buy the boat and had all intensions of doing so till the issues arose.

5) So LDD you admit on a public forum that the money is no issue.Then why do you need a payment plan?????

Anthony


With all that said, why would anyone settle for 12k? i would be getting the whole 14k?

nordic95 11-24-2008 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Audiofn (Post 2746059)
What page was the contract posted on again?

Page #1 post 11

29Firefox 11-24-2008 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2746016)
1)You also have to remeber that the damage was not disclosed to Prostock and he didnt find it on another web till just a day or two before the finale payment was made.

2)LDD also never followed thru with a survey that was promised before the contract end.

3)LDD and Prostock spoke via e-mail the next day SATURDAY and LDD told Prostock that they could continue the dealings on Monday because it was fathersday weekend and LDD had things to do with his kid.I Have the e-mail LDD so dont make a fool of yourself again!!!!

4) The contract was signed because he had the funds to buy the boat and had all intensions of doing so till the issues arose.

5) So LDD you admit on a public forum that the money is no issue.Then why do you need a payment plan?????

Anthony

1) Like I said sue Donger after the fact!

2) FACT OF LIFE!!! Never ever trust a survey done by a seller!!! Sending a surveyor is buyer's responsibility!!!

3) Do you want some cheese to go with that whine? I wouldn't have dragged the deal down to the wire in the first place!

4) It was simple finish the contract then sue over misrepresentation. But what I would like to know is there anyone on this board that would have signed that contract?

5)Yup its not just money it's a matter of is Pro Boy a man of his word? By the way I ain't the Donger. He is sitting in redneck Alabama & I'm sitting on the west end of the Pacific!!!

6) Why you wet nursing Pro Boy? You & him got something special?

It irks me to no end when people do something to themselves and then just put all the blame on the other party. In this deal Donger was a sleazeball and Pro Boy was an idiot. BOTH are in the wrong! Pro Boy broke the contract! For that he needs to make Donger whole! Donger got made more than whole! For that he needs to refund to Pro Boy that "more than" amount.

Ed
(Remember that I am "Ed" Donger is "Steve"!!! OK?):eek:

nordic95 11-24-2008 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by 29Firefox (Post 2746064)
1) Like I said sue Donger after the fact!

2) FACT OF LIFE!!! Never ever trust a survey done by a seller!!! Sending a surveyor is buyer's responsibility!!!

3) Do you want some cheese to go with that whine? I wouldn't have dragged the deal down to the wire in the first place!

4) It was simple finish the contract then sue over misrepresentation. But what I would like to know is there anyone on this board that would have signed that contract?

5)Yup its not just money it's a matter of is Pro Boy a man of his word? By the way I ain't the Donger. He is sitting in redneck Alabama & I'm sitting on the west end of the Pacific!!!

6) Why you wet nursing Pro Boy? You & him got something special?

It irks me to no end when people do something to themselves and then just put all the blame on the other party. In this deal Donger was a sleazeball and Pro Boy was an idiot. BOTH are in the wrong! Pro Boy broke the contract! For that he needs to make Donger whole! Donger got made more than whole! For that he needs to refund to Pro Boy that "more than" amount.

Ed
(Remember that I am "Ed" Donger is "Steve"!!! OK?):eek:


You Know LDD or are LDD.Nuff said.

Pure Energy 11-24-2008 09:33 AM

29firefox started his salesman career as a stock broker taking the life savings of elderly people and losing all of it in a "bogus" investment. It was all done in a legal manner so he has no guilt because it was their fault for turning over the money in the first place.

There are laws protecting the common man against professional "fast talkers" and "creative writers".

It has been stated many times that there are extenuating circumstances. Contracts are written in black and white, life is in color.

Pure Energy 11-24-2008 09:46 AM

Something tells me there's more to this boat ...

http://kitterypoint.olx.com/1984-chr...e-iid-12210360

Notice the photo is one that he used to show the boat on BF

29Firefox 11-24-2008 09:49 AM

Y?
 

Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2746020)
You are right FIREFOX,so prostock broke a contract if you say so.Then refund 12,000.00 and keep the two thousand for breatch of contract.Done deal

Then why did Pro Boy sign that contract with the terms in the second to the last paragraph?:drink:

29Firefox 11-24-2008 10:02 AM

Another Bloviator!
 

Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2746078)
29firefox started his salesman career as a stock broker taking the life savings of elderly people and losing all of it in a "bogus" investment. It was all done in a legal manner so he has no guilt because it was their fault for turning over the money in the first place.

There are laws protecting the common man against professional "fast talkers" and "creative writers".

It has been stated many times that there are extenuating circumstances. Contracts are written in black and white, life is in color.

Your really talking out your azz now. Ain't never bought owned or sold any stock. I'm straight up blue collar. I did make $3500 today. R&Red two marine gears in a 57 foot passenger boat. Did it within the contract constraints. I signed the contract for what I was gonna do and did it! My only problem is I'm gonna need some advil for my lower back in the morning. "Contracts are written in black and white, life is in color." now that sounds like someone who can't keep his word to the letter.:drink:

29Firefox 11-24-2008 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2746072)
You Know LDD or are LDD.Nuff said.

Never met the Donger. Only know him from the boards here & on freaks. But I do know a lynch mob when I it!:drink:


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