The second to last paragraph mostly talkes about water test and storage. The first paragraph states that "Buyer has sent seller a good faith non refundable deposit of $2000.00 (two thousand dollar) via wire transfer on 5/21/08........ If buyer fails to send additional depost by 5/30/08 seller may offer boat for sale and buyer forfeits his good faith deposit.

The last paragraph contraditcs the first and is so slanted to the donger that it is sure to be found not acceptable in court. So lets say that they water tested the boat and the motor had a rap, the hull was leaking and the stearing did not work. Donger gets to keep his money and Pro is SOL? Then why even water test!

The contract reads that Donger gets to keep 2 grand and all the rest of the money should be sent back.

Lynch mob? How about the majority have ethics and agree the right thing to do is to return $12K. How does that translate to a lynch mob? It is simply a majority opinion.

Your another one that does'nt get it, but at the same time your are right!! I dealt with contracts and when things changed or went wrong I made sure to break the contract and give the customer what they expected,wanted, and made sure it would last.

The fact that you need to post how much you made today shows what kind of person you are. Question is, is that alot of money or little? Did you stick it to um or give them good value for their money? Seems like you and the donger would get along just fine!!! I bet his chin strap would come in handy!!

This is the absolute truth.
I worked at a dealership that had a complete "contract" on the back of the buyers order, it stated that by signing the front the buyer agrees to all the terms and conditions. In this "contract" it stated that a customer could forfeit their deposit and may be liable for up to $500 if they did not hold up to their side, which included a time frame. (In a nut shell....) We were taken to court over a customers deposit and although the contract stated they should have given us more money (I believe their initial deposit was $200) we were found in the wrong and had to refund their money. I argued with the owner of the dealership initially that we should have returned the deposit immediately following the customers change of heart to save face and potentially earn the customer respect and future business. Needless to say Those people never came back. Shortly after this occurred I left that establishment and went to work at another dealership, contacted these people and sold them a car.
Not just from a business aspect but it was just the right thing to do

1st i was lowest bidder by about $500. 2nd albeit I used the engine manufacturers spray touch up I match colored the gears to the engines. Nobody else included that in their bids. 3d because of the time constraints everybodies bids specified dry alignment only. Mines did too however I skipped lunch and finished 5 hours ahead of schedule. Did the dry alignment but left the shafts disconected and had them launch the boat. Let it sit in the water for 3 hours and went back and rechecked the alignment port was OK starboard needed .25 mm worth of shims added to the rear mounts and it was then dead on. The wet alignment was above and beyond the contract. But thats not breaking the contract thats just good service. Finished with 15 minutes to spare. Just because I ain't on the screw Donger band wagon doesn't make me his butt buddy. It's just that I don't see this as a one way wrong situation. Both parties were in the wrong. Just answer me one question the same one I asked Audio! Would you have signed that contract as the Donger wrote it?:drink:

If it was a true matter of ethics you would have to admit that both Donger & Pro Boy are in the wrong. In this case it's not a case of ethics it's a case of as you said "It is simply a majority opinion." It's my opinion that there is fault in both parties. However the majority's opinion is that idiots should be protected from their own stupidity and we'll cover for them by putting all the blame on the other party. Go ahead, humor me! Would you have signed that contract?:drink:

Firefos there is no doubt that both parties messed up. The problem that I have with this situation is that Pro is now out many thousands of dollars and has absolutely ZERO to show for it. Donger on the other hand sold the boat twice and has all the money from the last sale PLUS all the money that Pro paid him up to that time. You can not have your cake and eat it. As soon as Donger decided that he wanted to sell the boat to some one else then he should have given Pro his money back less the deposit that was clearly marked as non refundable. Again his own contract contradicts what he is doing and itself.

No doubt that both are wrong in this whole situation, but there has to be an acceptable compromise between the two parties. Ethics and feelings aside, there needs to be a COMPRIMISE. Leave the past for what it was and the contract as well. I don't have a dog in this fight, but as Fire has said...they are both wrong.

The more that the Donger agrees to pay Pro back, will show his true character, at least that's how the "mob" sees it. Figure it out and do what is agreeable to both parties. That will be fair. Bash Donger all you want, it won't make it any better. I'm not sticking up for anyone, I would like to see justice served and everyone happy with the agreement. I been a mediator before(right Anthony?) and I think both parties were satisfied at the outcome. That's all we can be supportive for these two.

Dave

I agree no survey and damage that wasn't mentioned. He should get it all back

Did I see the pictures of your home and cars? No I didn't. Did you post them? For that matter who the hell cares. That proves nothing but how much debt you have.

Your choice to respond to this issue on a public forum. People are going to voice their opinion. If you don't like it, too bad.

Right now it looks like the majority is 99% against you. Are we all wrong?

Have some integrity and give Prostock back the $14,000.

First things first. At 11:00 am you said you made $3500 today. Then you said you finished 5hrs. early and let it sit in the water for 3 hrs., then re-shimmed it. WOW, you must get up early in the morning!! Or are you saying that you got your check today for the work performed and made a $3500 profit??

I can't say if I would have signed that contract or not. If I had a strong desire for that boat, if it was in my price range and no others were available, I may have been coersed/pressured into signing it. If there were comparable cats of the same brand or others, probably not. I'm not saying he was pressured but a pro salesman would know how to push the deal through!!!

Dave you are right 100%.Because of you Mike and I got thru a tough time,and now him and I can talk about it.Thats what I am trying to do here between these two parties.But both will have to take some credit for the screw up and compromise.I just think this compromise would have to be 80% on LDD part if not a little more.
Anthony

Funny part is he posted that at 11:00 am our time,he is three hours behind us.:eek::eek:

No-one ever has said Prostock does not bear some burden for the sour grapes in this deal.
His biggest fault is being young, naive and TRUSTING of a fellow boater!
He should loose his 2K deposit and that will I'm sure teach him a lesson that there are people in this world who WILL take advantage of him and that have no problem operating thru the back door, while at the same time leaving the front door open just a crack.
Someone's true character has played out in this thread time and time again, just read. There is a snake in the grass in this deal and Prostock ain't it.
Thank God for this thread to out yet another TWO BIT SCAM ARTIST on OSO!

Is that the same boat? Looks like the price is dropping :rolleyes:

Why should he lose his deposite.

1) the boat was misrepresented and prostock had to find out about damages he was never told about through reading it and seeing pics on boatfreaks.

2) he attempted to pay in full monday, just one busness day after the contract expired

3) he was promised a survey by the seller and it never arrived, although he was told on numerous occasions by the seller it was on the way, or in the mail.

he should get all 14k back and then some

That add does not have a date on it. I thing a broker bought it, sold it to someone, then the donger bought it. The guy who bought it from the broker probably found it needed work then sold it to donger. Donger probably found it needed work then went to sell it. That would explain why he never sent Prostock the survey, if one even existed. This is purely speculation on my part.

I just read that Extreme Remarketing was registered owner of the boat. If so then the contract to sell is null and void as the Donger didn't own the boat. Contract is a fraudulent document and is null and void.

Here's donger selling it on OSO. Notice the same pic of the boat that is in the other add I posted from a dif. seller?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...cat-cheap.html

I was not discussing percentages of fault on either party's behalf. I was discussing that at then end of this ordeal, the majority agree that Dong should return ProStock's money. That is the ethical thing to do. Even if ProStock was 100% wrong, I would return his money as most here would. I'm not into screwing people because they make mistakes.

I was under the impression that Steve Thomas was dba "extreme remarketing."
Contract has other issues, but not as many as Mr. Thomas.

# 1 and 3 are what I am saying!! he should get the whole thing back. LDD broke the deal right there so no deposit should be lost

I just received word that both parties are no where close to the same number figures.LDD is still claiming that waiting till Monday to discuss the deal after he sent PS a email on Saturday asking PS to wait till Monday because of fathersday Sunday caused him to lose thousands of dollars.:hitfan:Even if PS would have paid him on Monday via a wire transfer he would still be out thousands(so LDD claims).So he wants PS to make up the difference of what he could have sold the boat for and what he claims he actually sold the boat months later.He just doesnt get it.Its up to PS from here but if it was me i'd be on the phone today with the attorney,enough is enough.

Anthony

If it was me personally I'd definetly give it all back! But since duck is not a person of character, there has to be some comprimise in order to end this nightmare and IMO only, that 2K should easily be the most comprimise Prostock should settle for.

Again a person of character would not think twice about refunding the whole 14K but this isn't what Prostock is dealing with. :rolleyes:

OLX seems to me to be the place that all the scammers hang out. I tried to contact a number of people selling stuff on that site and it was always a scam.

We don't know that because we do not know if Dongers business is set up as a DBA or a Sole or a corp....

Ok ya'all so called smart people. Check out post#707 on this thread. I said I was on the western edge of the pacific. Just a cold hard fact Ya'all are living in my yesterday & I'm living in your tommorrow. When I started posting my work day was long over and ya'all was just waking up. If ya need a little more explanation go track down the post I threw out there to holler out to Ed Cozzi. It's got my phone number in it. Don't forget to dial the country code! Oh yea your dime your wasting will only get you about a minute and a half of call time. When it's 4 pm on the east coast it's 6 am the next day here:eek:

So go to bed!!!

Phone rang I'm just getting up. I gotta a hot date with a broken turbo:drink:

Make sure ya stick-it-to-um!!

This is really starting to piss me off!! Why can't this phucker see what a POS he is acting like......

LDD, RETURN HIS $14k WITH A REALLY SINCERE APOLOGY.........You might actually feel good about doing the right thing.
A lot of people are experiencing financial hardships right now & this phucker thinks it's ok to keep this money cause he signed an arguably one-sided contract.....Your only chance for redemption is a FULL REFUND, period; better late than never.

Hey LongDuckDong!!!

I am a stranger that happened upon this post, I have no relation to any of the parties involved, and actually know only one person on this whole forum.

But, you inspired me to join...just so I could make this post.

Some Questions:
How do you live with yourself? Are you a man? How could you possibly even stand in front of the mirror, look at yourself, and call yourself a man? Have you not an ounce of pride and decency? If you have a woman or a family, how can you look them in the eye without feeling shame and disgrace?

Some Comments
I hope to god you don't have any children. You should actually consider a vasectomy so the world can't be polluted by your wretched seed. An honorable person works for a living. They sweat and bleed for what they have. You have no respect at all for this. You probably have a miserable life, and whatever happiness you may try to hold onto has got to be false. When your old and dying, you will look back on your miserable existence, see that you have made no real connections with people, no real friends; and you will realize what a worm you are. You will realize you are alone because of how you treat people.

I have full confidence that pro-stock will win this case, and the best part of it is that you will end up losing out in the long run. If I know nothing else about life, I know that there is great truth in the statement: "what comes around goes around." So when bad situations arise in your life...you don't have to wonder why.

You Bastard.

Wow.

Both parties are in the wrong and ProStick needs to have his in state (Alabama) attorney file suit in Alabama. I can hear the banjo now... Dickbag's offers will sweaten once more leverage is attained by ProStick.

Are you PS's lawyer???

But did you see the picture of his house and his cars?

No, it's ldd's lawyer!!

You mean the ones that were purchased with Pro's money :rolleyes:

No...I'm not a Laywer!
 

I'm just some dude who has been getting a play by play of this whole situation through a friend that loves this website.

I got fed up with it today and had to say something.

Houses and cars don't make people happy, the only problems money can fix are your debt. I'm 35, hopefully far from checking out, but I do realize that in the end all that anyone really has is who they are, and how they have treated those around them.

I just don't understand people like this guy, how they can live with themselves, and how they can justify their actions. When I encounter these folks in my life, I deal with them in a very harsh and swift manner. In the end I feel sorry for them because they are usually miserable in their everyday lives. Maybe they got the short end of the stick at some point, maybe they had a crappy childhood, who the hell knows.

Either way, I know plenty of people that have been screwed over in their upbringing and in life, but they still took it upon themselves at some point to be good people. Wheras this LongDuckDong guy, a grown man with cars, and houses, and whatever...things that anyone would say he would be fortunate to have --- this guy, just feels the need to be a bastard, and I don't like that. It pisses me off.

So why? Why LongDuckDong? Why must you be such a Long Duck Dong? It isn't too late to change, there is still hope.

I am not sure what is worse what long duck did, or this guys immature screen name

Since when has being vulgar become the mature thing ???
Ahhh the dumbing down of america