Originally Posted by MikeyFIN

OT.
Because you don´t know better only...
Now Tell me of a Single Grand Prix Win for example that some US automaker has won ?

Originally Posted by BDiggity

1976 Australian GP
Penske-Ford
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Austrian_Grand_Prix

1967 Belgian GP
Eagle-Weslake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Belgian_Grand_Prix

1921 French GP
Duesenberg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Anthony_Murphy

Originally Posted by MikeyFIN

How did they get to the space first ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceflight

Seems you diss Russian intellect also here which is far more world known and sofisticated than you prolly can imagine.
Think that russians also invented the Laser among other things and that has to do something with a need for precision.

Regarding quality how does Russians now quality..have you ever heard of a goldsmith named Fabergé ... very popular among the blue-blooded Russians..

You might find also St:Petersburg quite overwhelming and it´s history an the Russian women...
Now you ask how do they know quality...because they ain´t stupid and getting bankcrupt as a nation as we speak.

and when it comes to airplanes. well I think they manage to hold their own regarding anything US has to offer.
Now Sikorsky did invent the Helicopter for example...

Originally Posted by Steve 1

Dude that space thing was the enslaved German scientist’s that they caught after WW11 But Again we walked on the moon and pulled a sunken soviet sub off the ocean floor 17,000 plus feet down;

Christ the Soviet sonar could not even see it! BTW That Bear bomber is traceable to our B-29 bombers Ole Stalin “Found” and copied. Did I say Stalin we should have let the Germans Kill him instead of supporting that Commie bastard.

What was the Russian car popped of a Packard ?? The AK-47 try a German MP-44… I will put our aerospace companies up against anything they got! I guess you heard of the A-12 and the SR-71 our F-22 they have nothing close.

Originally Posted by dreamer

can we get back how the boat market is in the toilet?

Originally Posted by MikeyFIN

thenagain it has happened also before in boating.
Chris Craft, Cigarette, Magnum and Baja have all had production outside US.

Originally Posted by Steve 1

God willing things will start moving this spring.

Originally Posted by tanner

Nothing is going to move for a few years. We still have alot of banks that need to get through the 5 and 7 year ARM's that are coming due and people either need to refinance or eat it !! We have a long way to go...unfortunatley

Originally Posted by Pesky Varmint

I pity people who consider cars like Audi's to be something
exceptional.

Pesky Varmint