Gary Taylor Update?
 

The other thread was locked for a specific reason, because it was full of speculation and opinions. Lets leave this one up for facts only please.

Anyone that attended the court date Mon and have any info?

done deal

??????? what does that mean ?

Offshoreonly was mentioned in this local news report

http://www.keyt.com/news/local/37172...?video=YHI&t=a

On Performance Boating site - hearing postponed to this Thursday or Friday I believe.

That did not appear to be good. WOW.

This was posted on the local news website today. Hopefully this may end some speculation and keyboard assumptions by some of you. It was also on the local TV news KEYT

Firefighter Charged With Molestation

Jailed On $1 Million Bail
By: KVTA News
2009-01-06


A Ventura County man who prosecutors say is a County firefighter is facing 7 counts of child molestation. 41-year-old Gary Taylor of Newbury Park was in court briefly on Monday afternoon, but did not enter a plea. His arraignment was continued until Thursday. Taylor's bail was raised to $1 million and he remains in the Ventura County Jail. He stand accused of molesting a young girl over a long period of time until she was 13 years old. The alleged incidents were reportedly back in 2000, but he is just now being charged. If convicted, Taylor could face up to 30 years in state prison.

he should get life if he is convicted, pervert

Wow Is this the same guy that owns TPI Performance and has that 28ft orange Howard Bullet for sale that ran 100+ mph on one of his single built motors. He was a fireman and had a really good name for building EFI marine motors. He seemed to be a straight up guy. You really never know about people anymore.

Due process-
 

Due process with determine which if any charges stick, and what is their severity. In most cases the DA will overcharge and bring them down, or alter them one by one as a story unfolds.

I agree if hes proven guilty as charged he should go away a looong time.

However if hes wrongly accused and the molestation breaks down to thinks like peeing off the transom of a boat (also called indecent exposure, and can be trumped up if in the presence of a minor) then the whole story changes radically.

We just have to hear the story and see- without the knowledge of whats really occuring we cant judge guy.

Remember this story of those horrible men that molested that young innocent underage girl/minor repeatedly that that got off scott free?

The story ceased being horrible when all the facts were uncovered and the correct name was filled in the "blank" <remember-Traci Lords anybody? > Im not saying these are the same, just saying that we don't know what we dont know- yet.

If its a setup should wrongful accusers go away for life?

Lets let the law do its job and see.

Uncle Dave

Laveycraft 2750 - 710 Ilmor
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406/ITS

Troutly comes to mind. If guilty put him away.

Yes It Is.
 

Yes it is, and you are correct- you never know about anyone anyway.

I came very close to buying from him, but did not because he would not take a credit card- which was my assurance of timely delivery and agreed upon product being delivered. (build sheet dyno charts invite to dyno day etc.)

When I questioned him about how would I be assured he wouldn't take my 50K and run away - or take 9 months to deliver an engine and as good as his product is (and it is) He simply isn't Teague Mercury or Ilmor.

He replied I was safe in doing business with him - "because to not fulfill a business commitment would directly track back to my good standing as a fireman and would jeopardize my ability to continue that as my primary job and taint my superb reputation in the industry"

He seemed to be very aware of the effects of something far less serious than the horrible things hes accused of today.


Too bad- everyone loses in this kind of deal, the best we can hope for now is the truth and fair an impartial justice.



Uncle Dave

I agree with Uncle Dave 1000%,,,so do not let this post end up in a judgement again.

Hold back till the truth is determind by the law.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that these crimes where reported in 2000 and they did not bring charges until now? What would change now that hasn't over the past 8 years. If anyone question me about what I did in 2000 I would be able to honestly say I do not know. on that same token how could a victim remember anything from 8 years ago?

For all of you crying foul and calling the little girl a liar. How many people in prison right now that were convicted of child molestation would you say are innocent? 1% perhaps 2% out of hundreds of thousands? You're all betting that he's in this 1-2% group? I'm willing to bet that only the truly vile molesters ever got a 1mil bond. Surely there is a lawyer on here that could let us know what type of evidence it would take to give a guy a million dollar bond.

If you were sexin up your 12 year old step daugher you'd remember and you bet your arse she would to.

I believe a young victim would remember something like this, and the details, for the rest of their life.

Seems to me that what most people are saying here is that the man deserves his day in court. A very basic concept if you ask me.

Also, I'd be interested to know where your stats came from? I don't imagine them to be very reliable.

This is the third Fireman I've known that had to endure this.
What all three had in common:

1. Marriage/relationship in it's 8th year was disintegrating, wife/gf cuts him off from sex, and of course denys it.

2. He gets laid someplace else, wife/gf finds out, seperation/divorce hits the household.

3. Astranged (GF) wife is jealous, he is now getting laid by a 26 year old C cup, size 3, Heidi Klum looking nurse pulling big bank paychecks and the new GF is going on the Catalina trips, river and Glamis in the place of the estranged wife/gf.

The off-the-hook holidays and trips, the cool business & cashflow, the energy of their lives together, the excellent friends and charm of their lifestyle are gone,, suddenly and forever.

4.The estranged wife/GF social life has now evaporated, her buttcheeks are the size of 2 - 3 passenger Sea Doo cushions.
All she is meeting are loosers paying $2k child support each month, who's idea of a fun time is a video a 12 pack of Keystone and a bucket of KFC. - her jealosy & hate get even hotter.

5. The step daughter feels sorry for mom and the tears and sympathy AMP up from 6 volts to 48.

6. The accusations fly.
If he helped potty train her, or ever gave her a bath or helped her get dressed he is now a sexual suspect and logged into the system.

7. A man hating lezzie dyke is brought in, leading questions are put on the table,,, a phone call,, wrong answers, and knock at the door,, jail.

8. $300.000 later,, may go free.

Guys I started this thread because the other was locked for good reason. Keep the opinions for other areas, I just wanted a place where we could get updates.

Lets leave it for that or I'll delete it and start another.

Thank you,

Kirk

WELL WE KNOW IT GOT LOCKED BECAUSE OF isellpower phucken dickhead keep your trap shut, so we can hear from the courts AND SO FORTH about this case in the end if he did it hang him if he did not buy a motor from him, oh by your name you sell motors:rolleyes: TOOL!

It's a million bail because it's a double standard system.
The laws are not gender neutral:

The female teachers that gave birth to their 14 year old students babys were released that day on their own recognizance (that's no bail), got an ankle bracelet, and were pulling paychecks 12 weeks later with some probation.
Done deal.

The justice system isn't gender equal nor neutral.
Gary is hardly a menace to society.
Perhap he is to his business competitors, but hardly to the community.

BTW, I'm a certified Sea Lawyer.

What I was getting at was why would it just now come up again. Something had to change in this case for this to come up 8 years later something that was not there ever before. My speculation is what Fat Tony said or some variation of.

If it was reported 8 years ago some one had to answer questions then why could they not charge it. I would think they would not take much to charge this or at least question him and try to dig something up.

So back to the same question what changed?

My guess is the marriage between the two people disentagrated and the woman was maybe a little smarter than anyone gave her credit for and made a false report 8 years ago probably right after he had her sign a prenup so she new she had an out now he sits and jail and she has access to all of his belongings and anything of value.

If anybody can give me a better reason to wait 8 years to charge something let me know.

I know the thread said no speculating but I missed the first one. So I had to.

Wouldn't that make her 21 now? "Until she was thirteen, that would be sooooooo sick.

For a facts only no speculation thread, this sure has a lot of no facts and speculation.

I believe that the police are saying it happened years ago but was just recently reported.

When ya help out the GF or wife when she goes to work, and you stay home with a sick child/stepchild.

You help her on the toilet,, later she vomits & poops diarrhea and urine all over herself, and ya pull the sheets off the bed, and hose her off in the shower with the Waterpik shower hose:

The DA aka Lesbians in Action regional VP, wants to prove you liked it. - And the waterpik shower hose was a "foreign object."

You'll see a side to the woman in your life you never thought existed when you hit a divorce/break-up.
Accusations will fly, and ballz will be on a silver platter.

You'll be sitting in the cell next to gary.

It isn't gender neutral.

Let him have his day and if found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt he will suffer the consequences in the big house...

Sounds to me like Fat Tony is telling us Gary's side of this story maybe not a fact but sounds interesting to me.

i think we should all take a step back and see what happens,

Have some of you gone mad? I don't care if you're an attorney or anything else, trying to make light of this situation only makes me think that you are some type of wierdo yourself. I'm floored by some of the idiotic posts above.

Since you are a great judge of character and that we should respect you opinion because you are an attorney. Is he a menace to little girls, Councelor?

Again.

How about we let the man have his day(s) in court.


X2

5150 When did it become illegal to even discuss a topic on OSO? Why dont YOU STFU? Fat Tony I feel has a damn good point we can debate any topic we care to as this is the USA!

I said a Sea Lawyer not an atty. Get your nautical terms down before ya man the wheel sailor:

Urban Dictionary: sea lawyer sea lawyer - 1 definition - An old navy term, when at sea a sailor is a law expert, but in reality, they know nothing.

okay. I didn't say it was illegal. Fat Tony is expressing his opinion that's fine with me. I don't agree with it. It just ruffles my feathers when a man is accused of molesting a little girl, has 1 million bail, and other things I hear about confessions, sting operations, etc.. I thought he was a hell of a guy. I guess I wasn't a good judge of character. Carry on. :ernaehrung004:

Every man on here is one accusation from being in the same situation as Gary Taylor.
Presumption of innocence means nothing to some I read.

I know a guy who had a one night stand she got caught by her husband, accused him of rape. He got thrown in jail name slandered in the media, business ruined. Took him 1 year to get out of the legal bull*** and his name is still tarnished.

That is really all you can do, but the charges are very disturbing. As you can tell by the reactions.
Tick tock.

To think that anyone on this site (or at least most) could be called for jury duty scares me. Some people already have a nice cell mate picked out for this guy based off the amount of his bond which is not as much as it seems rememeber some people have pleasure boats on this site that cost more than that new.

I think that some cases it is easier to belive guilt before trial but I have not heard anything that leads me to believe that this is one of those.

If I listen to what Fat Tony said (which I believe to be someone close to Gary) he said that Gary is admitting to bathing this girl after she got sick so some could take that as a confession.

Now someone who is a firefighter would be someone who cares about other people and tries to help them so he could have been trying to help her in what he thought was an appropriate way and she may have not felt the same way so she tells her mom and they tell authorities then they say no it was a complete misunderstanding. Then they come back 8 years later and say no it was not a misunderstanding (after marriage falls apart).

There are many scenarios here besides guilt but some believe that because a DA makes the charge they are guilty.

Once again if the DA had anything 8 years ago they would have went for it but they did not.

Anyway like has been said innocent until proven guilty not the other way around if he did it then he has to do the time.