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johnnymo 01-14-2009 12:28 PM

What happened to the Gary Taylor update thread?
 
Just curious why this thread was deleted?

Blow-N-Thunder 01-15-2009 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by johnnymo (Post 2777782)
Just curious why this thread was deleted?

Just by reading all the pther post before they were deleted, I can tell you that he was arrested, and he either posted his bond or is still waiting in jail for his bond to be posted. He has plead not guilty, so now the State of California will begin preparing their case............Now e they are preparing their case the Prosecutor will ask and try to get his atty to accept a pea agreement. Now we will not hear anything or will anything be published unless they are close to the family and decide to talk about it.

The next hearing will be down the road and might take months. The actual trial could not even be for a year.

I DIG IT !! 01-15-2009 06:08 PM

Thanks for the Info.

Uncle Dave 01-15-2009 06:14 PM

Good question?
 
It may be that they (OSO) decided to delete the thread and not announce it which is a double edged sword.

Usually an OSO moderator will announce they are locking or deleting a thread as they do it.

I can understand why they would want to do this as issues like the GT thread really bring out the worst in everyone, but at the same time I feel the OSO moderation team is driving some portion of their paying subscribers to other sites.

Controversial threads should be placed in a "brawl section" and that everything but threatening personal violence should be OK.

The nature of the boating community is to congregate together, swap stories, experiences, share information, complain, brag, and most importantly - argue about real issues affecting us-

Take that ability away from the group and they will naturally begin congregate elsewhere.



Uncle Dave

SpeedGirl 01-15-2009 07:15 PM

Uncle Dave... As I stated on the first thread, I was closing the thread until more information was obtained... I was asked to do so by some members since the thread was either getting ugly or getting off topic...

On another note, Us OSO mods have been very lenient on deleting threads lately, we know you feel like your have NO freedom of speech.... Guess damed if we do, damed if we don't!

Fat Tony 01-15-2009 07:56 PM

It's good that the Boating forums have chose to side step this issue and shelf it entirely.

It's loose - loose to cover it and all the flotsham and jetsham that goes with it.

No good can come out of a discussion about it online or in print in a boating publication.

Glad to see it gone.

You can get all the updates in the Ventura Star or wait until Gary beats the accusations and get his side.

Fat Tony 01-22-2009 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Elite Marine (Post 2779902)
I started the thread for only updates. I know Gary and want to see what really happened here.

Tony - my email is [email protected] you evidently know alot about this and I would appreciate any info/updates you can provide me.

That was my only reason for starting another thread. Evidently people couldnt respect that. Typical.

Thank you,

Kirk

It's completely understandable Kirk, and it took huevos for you to put your name out there and ask. I will certainly email or PM you any info as the truth develops.
Many of us bought engines from and are friends or co-workers with GT, and of course want to know all about it.

But, unfortunately the threads go sideways. When Gary walks out of jail, it makes the forum look bad innocent or guilty because it's such a bad situation and OSO is mentioned in every breath the news media takes.
Print, electronic and on TV and radio OSO is mentioned. I'll explain why:

Some have selected to tar and feather him. Jump to a guilty conclusion that will go full circle.

OSO is the premier class act boating website.
For OSO to give any impression that it takes any side can easily blow up its reputation.
The news media has in the past printed OSO as THE general opinion of his fellow boating friends in this incident, but:

The media will most always run with the bad or guilty opinions and forget the mostly positive support GT gets.
That reflects on OSO.
Especially if GT is found guilty, then the media will turn and focus that OSO readers supported this sex offender.

So it's good OSO has shelved it for now.

Anyone that remembers the spectacular Catalina Island Gold Cup tournament may remember one of the organizers and board members of the tourney went through the same accusations.

This premier tourney eventually folded over this incident. Then the supporters of the guy, that is the sponsors, island business and worldwide mfg's, took a big reputation hit in the community and the game fishing world.

So, one can see why OSO backs out of hell when the thread goes south.
It's the point where they and their reputation get drug into it.
It's loose loose.

vinnysrt8 01-26-2009 04:29 PM

Could some one email me what happened because i am looking to buy his blower that is for sale my email address is [email protected]

OkieTunnel 01-26-2009 11:33 PM

Fat tony...I never posted but I appreciated and understood your comments on the original thread.

thisistank 01-27-2009 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by Fat Tony (Post 2778820)
or wait until Gary beats the accusations and get his side.

Is this your opinion? But then you state later that it's good oso deleted the thread because the media later prosecutes the supporters. Interesting. It's also interesting you've never posted here until now.

You gave your opionion, now I'll give mine. He won't be beating this case.

However, if you want to be a true friend (which you obviously are a friend of his). How about you morgage your house and come up with the 100k bail he needs for the bond. He's been trying to bail, it's a fact. So step up, put your money where your mouth is.:rolleyes:

jstnoc 01-30-2009 05:56 AM

A Ventura County Fire Department firefighter pleaded not guilty to six counts of child molestation and one count of continuous sexual abuse of a child.

Gary Taylor, 41, a resident of the Conejo Valley, is in custody under $1 million bail and is facing up to 28 years in prison if found guilty of the criminal charges, according to prosecutor Catherine Voelker.

Ventura County Superior Court Judge Kevin McGee set a disposition conference for the case on Feb 23.

According to court documents. the alleged abuse took place from 2000 up until last year. Voelker said Taylor is also charged with the special allegation of substantial sexual conduct with a child.

Taylor was arrested on Dec. 15, according to jail records.

Taylor’s lawyer, Mark Pachowicz, said his office will conduct its own investigation into the allegations.

Both Voelker and Pachowicz declined to comment on the victim’s age or other details pertaining to the charges.

Back4More 02-10-2009 10:42 PM

http://www.tpboats.com/home.html

oh boy, thats not good.....

klaw 02-11-2009 08:53 AM

has he made bail?

johnnymo 02-11-2009 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 2797685)
http://www.tpboats.com/home.html

oh boy, thats not good.....

Gary's site has been down for a while

26 REDLINE 02-11-2009 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by klaw (Post 2797836)
has he made bail?

Nope...http://157.145.215.163/inmateinquiry...spx?id=1172832

Its not looking good for Gary, I know his wife is not going to bail him out, she said so...it is really a shame that this has happened Gary was really starting to make a big impact on the marine industry. Lets just hope that whatever the outcome he takes it like a man and fesses up, even if he beats the rap, the name Gary Taylor will forever linked to this, and there is no way to get away from that, his life is pretty much ruined :rolleyes:

26 REDLINE 02-11-2009 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Elite Marine (Post 2798521)
A week and a half. Hopefully someone can fill us in from the court. Not the speculation that has been here.

Believe what you want, Tank is right I don't think he will be beating the rap, to much evidence, unless you know Garys family, Teri and the girls, your grasping at straws...trust me when I first found out about this I hoped it wasn't true, but let the system take is course, if he is smart he will plea the charges out and take what the court gives him, if he chooses to go to trial he might end up with more he want to deal with, it is best to plea it out and make a deal...

johnnymo 02-13-2009 12:00 PM

Seems like info coming from Gary's wife might be a bit jaded, but who knows other than Gary and the alleged victim. He will be in court on the 23rd. Maybe we should wait before passing judgment.

BLee 02-13-2009 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedGirl (Post 2778784)

On another note, Us OSO mods have been very lenient on deleting threads lately, we know you feel like your have NO freedom of speech.... Guess damed if we do, damed if we don't!

Always has been! :drink: They're never all happy, but the ones that count usually are. :ernaehrung004:

Even though this is the first time I've noticed this topic, I'm sure the other thread had gone down the same path they all do......:rolleyes: As for paying members going to other site because of this......lol, thread trolls are a common component to any online forum, and the various mods on each do their best to deal with it. There are also TONS more people here than the rumors of people leaving even come close to indicating. :circle:

TexomaPowerboater 02-14-2009 09:19 AM

Sounds about right.

If this thread keeps up he will be free by Thanksgiving:D

26 REDLINE 02-25-2009 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Elite Marine (Post 2808410)
Any news? I thought the date was Monday?

Next court date March 23rd

Fat Tony 03-15-2009 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by 26 REDLINE (Post 2808417)
Next court date March 23rd

Be back if anything new develops.
Figure late into the year this will hit the courtroom.

sean stinson 03-15-2009 01:26 PM

All I know is if you're guilty or innocent if someone even points their finger at you with this accusation.....You're toast!!!

Best advise I can give dont even put yourself in a situation to even remotely give anyone the suspicion that you might be involved..... Or in other words DONT **** AROUND!!!!!!

I have daughters and I know if someone touches them there is no amount of prison time that would scare me enough to keep from taking my revenge my way!!!!!

mike tkach 03-15-2009 07:17 PM

i don,t know gt,nor have i ever spoken with him,but i think we all need to not let emotion take over,give him the benefit of doubt,and let the court system figure it out.i for 1 will not pass judgement on gt.time will tell ,and we all will get the facts.:ernaehrung004:

johnnymo 03-23-2009 03:43 PM

Any word? Gary was due in court today.

26 REDLINE 03-23-2009 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by johnnymo (Post 2827302)
Any word? Gary was due in court today.

Nothing yet, you can check this for updates...

http://157.145.215.163/inmateinquiry...spx?id=1172832

johnnymo 03-23-2009 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Elite Marine (Post 2827401)
Says it was today at 1:30 PM. Nothing more.

Gary plead guilty to some of the charges

thisistank 03-23-2009 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Fat Tony (Post 2778820)
or wait until Gary beats the accusations and get his side.

Guess it's a good thing you didn't post the mil bail on your boy eh?

Plead to 4 felonies today. DONE!

https://public.courts.ventura.org/pu...SONNUM=3768417

http://157.145.215.163/inmateinquiry...spx?id=1172832

klaw 03-23-2009 08:08 PM

yikes

Code:PC Sec:288.5(a)
Level:Felony
Continuous Sexual Abuse
Date:03/23/2009
Dispo:Pled guilty

Code:PC Sec:288(a)
Level:Felony
Lewd Act Upon a Child
Date:03/23/2009
Dispo:Pled guilty

Code:PC Sec:288(a)
Level:Felony
Lewd Act Upon a Child
Date:03/23/2009
Dispo:Pled guilty

Code:PC Sec:288(a)
Level:Felony
Lewd Act Upon a Child
Date:03/23/2009
Dispo:Pled guilty

mmareno 03-23-2009 08:14 PM

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Holy Smokes... WOW!!!!

What a shock!! I am STUNNED.. Not even a fight!! never knew the guy but most of the times you hear about stuff like this it drags on for 5 yrs...


Way to save the tax payers money

MER Performance 03-23-2009 08:21 PM

I would hate to be going to jail with those charges, alot of butt kicking going on! If not death from the other inmates. Sexual abuse on a child thats some sorry SOB

SpeedGirl 03-23-2009 08:25 PM

Due to the plea I opened the first thread

socalstone 03-23-2009 08:54 PM

WOW..... holy chit.

thisistank 03-23-2009 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by mmareno (Post 2827533)
:eek::eek::eek::eek: Holy Smokes... WOW!!!!

What a shock!! I am STUNNED.. Not even a fight!! never knew the guy but most of the times you hear about stuff like this it drags on for 5 yrs...


Way to save the tax payers money

When you're recorded on the phone admitting to doing it...Kind've hard to fight it:rolleyes:

jryan26 03-23-2009 09:08 PM

Wow, what a dirtbag. I was hoping that he was innocent for the victims sake.


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