Another Cig wreck
 

I am surprised that Cig still hasnt addressed the spin issue. This looks like a brand new boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG5-Go1HH7Q

Anyone who's ever owed a stepped boat should know that the accident was caused by operator error. Have you never heard that you don't cut the throttles in a turn with driving a stepped boat?

Great argument for lanyard usage.

Looks more like a high-side to me; more of a "roll" issue...

Great reason to use a lanyard and take Tres' school!

Also what is it with Cig's rolling up like that?

Woo .. !!! what a waste of a nice boat.
Interesting that everyone is running to the boat ,, f' the drivers.

I think he's heard it!!!


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK2rm-nUJx4[/YOUTUBE]

The problem is between the steering and the seat not the boat.

They want steps to go fast let them learn how to drive it.

well said, END OF POST !!:ernaehrung004:

Have you ever stoped to think that if you can't slow down while turning then its a huge safety problem and a design flaw. After all, should you have to turn to avoid another boat......and slow down........ your SOL. You couldn't pay me to put my family in that boat. :party-smiley-004:

Total design flaw and lack of manufacturer support for training. I do not agree that people should "just know" that this can happen, and, a boat should not lean outward when turning. PERIOD.

What happens if the engine dies in a turn at speed?

Ok, we won't pay you

That was going to be next post :food-smiley-007:

Ya'll think Don Aronow would of let a boat out the door like that? Steps have been around since the 70's........

they chopped the throttles, boat started to slid out in the asssss end, caught, high sided and tossed um. the characteristics of stepped bottomed boats are the same as my 911 and any other rear engined car...DO NOT DECELERATE IN A CORNER OR ELSE !! hadda learn to drive my 911 all over after having corvettes...with the 911 the harder ya accelerate the better it sticks...such a shame was definately a gorgeous baot HOPE ALL ARE OK

You guys act like Cigs are the only ones that roll or hook:rolleyes: I've seen pics of most every twin stepped hull boat manufactured that have rolled or hooked at one time or another.

When you fly a plane, you're aware of the stall affect right? Doesn't mean its a safety issue.

When you drive a twin turbo'd porsche and nail it into a turn theres a chance of spinning the car due to the turbo lag. Doesn't mean it's a saftey issues.

Motorcycles run 200+ mph...Doesn't mean you're going to go into a turn at that speed right?


There's waaaaaaaaay more twin step boat owners that have never had a problem and run their sh!t hard, than those that have flipped, rolled or hooked. Learn how to opporate your equipment and you'll be fine.

This is the same video that has been posted 3 times now... The only difference is that the title says "Russian". This happened in Varna Bulgaria. In the background they are speaking Bulgarian... not Russian.

Oh it's a good day for the step hull vultures.

Pesky Varmint
Step hull owner (rolled the first one).

Well put, every time something happens someone jumps right on the box and starts the brand / design bashing. More often than not the incident is more related to stupidity than design. And more times than not these "incidents" also tend to happen in a race situation, where folks that chit has been going on forever, it's part of the game. If someone doesn't want a step design simply don't buy one. If you do decide to buy one then learn to drive it the way it was designed to be driven. Pretty simple in my mind.

No offense, but being a die hard Fountain owner it is somewhat of a relief to see another brand catching it for a change.

Way earlier then that. My dad had on in the late 60's . Steps were aound back in the 50's. FYI :ernaehrung004:

But seriously. The step design, CIg. OL. Hustler, Fountains, AT. NT. Sunsation. etc.. etc. is not the problem. With the high "X" dim. and power, many "owners" has no clue how to drive them. It's not a design flaw. It's drivers with deep pockets, bigger egos and driving/handling ignorance is the problem.

Isn't this the boat? Toward the end of the video it looks the same shoreline the boat hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQzet...eature=related

Wow! That is the dream powerboat of a lifetime!
Damn shame.

Bla, Bla! More than no steps, or one step like mine, and you're for sure in the drink, just floatin' trying to get your dumb a$$ to shore. Give me a F'n break. The dumb a$$ in the video suffered from a brain fart, or lack of a brain, got wet, and maybe won't find his stupid self in the same place again. Really is that simple here, fortunately it looks like no one was really hurt.

Steps or not, shouldn't Bulgarians know to wear their kill-switch lanyards like the Russians do! (Thanks, M.O.)
Were they w/o in the life jacket department too?
Next time they want to trash a great boat, I'll take the Cig and let them run my Proline up on the rocks...
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ps: stupid ba$tard$

Yeah, I retract my silly post. Damn foreigners.....

No offense here either. Like they say .............. "You just can't fix stupid."

It never ceases to amaze me that anyone with the obvious brain power to come up with the coin to own one of these boats can be so lacking in the basic mentality required to learn how to drive the thing.

I would have to agree, design flaw !! and for that matter Mercruiser is to blame for putting alot of power in the boat to begin with, and what the hell does the prop shop have any business custom fabbing props for a boat that has flaws to begin with and power that is waaaay to big. and Lanyards... Lanyards should not be up to the owner/driver to have to worry about, Cigarette and all the other manufactures should be installing sensors in the cockpit floor so when the drivers leaves the seat the engines quit !
Come on people, don't keep putting the blame on a guy who has enough money to buy the boat but not enough brains to take the Tres Martin course.
I hope these manufactures take notice and do what is necessary to protect the rocks on the shores of Bulgaria !:drink:

Most, if not all stepped bottom boats are unstable... turning one hard over would be driver error. Lanyards on the other hand, should be worn at all times...no excuse for that one.
No one got killed and we all learned a bit more about safety...thats what. matters

Don't think a couple wet people in a race should make a lawsuit getting the wet ones rich.

Go fast, learn your lessons and stop blaming the other guy.

That is truly the American way.....

Not blaming and trying to suck money out of the entity that tried to help you.

Move on and learn.

That way of thinking left this country long ago. Law suit law suit law suit is the mantra of the American these days. It's only going to get worse too...

LOL! ...and the trailer manufacturer. How dare they design a trailer that enabled this poor driver to tow such a dangerous boat to the water!:drink:

L O L

:drink:Now that is funny!

But when flying you are required to "learn" how to fly with training and then "solo" and pass your tests. And yes, sometimes they find manufacturer issues AFTER the planes are in service.

THAT IS NOT TRUE AT THE SLOW SPEED OF THIS BOAT, you can't make a cig 28 roll outward at that slow of a speed!

YO Dog youre in the fat on dat. whens yin git skeered ,n be ;s too old to drive a cig ,
buy yo,seff a cat ! rite on .............

Someone is trying to sue Cigarette???

Hey, they've done something....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2/DSCN6365.jpg

cause it doesn't have a step hull, I got a video of my boat in 2 1/2 to 3 foot seas off of capecod my buddy was filming I went from 70mph cut back tucked in adjusted my tabs in seconds to do a tight turn, they thought I was nuts but I planned it my boat stuck to the water and made the turn if I had a stepped hull I would have spun out instead of flipping sideways which would have been bad. that was slow speed:eek: