Motor Damage During Shipping ??????
03-02-2009 | 10:12 PM
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, its his lil bro Bob 
03-02-2009 | 11:02 PM
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OK, now what's it gonna take to make this whole thing right, and go away with all parties involved happy and remaining friends ?? I'd really like to see Bill get some kind of compensation for all the grief and aggravation he's been put through.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum.
AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry. 
Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum.
AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry. Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
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03-03-2009 | 01:37 AM
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OK, now what's it gonna take to make this whole thing right, and go away with all parties involved happy and remaining friends ?? I'd really like to see Bill get some kind of compensation for all the grief and aggravation he's been put through.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum. AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry.
Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum.
AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry. Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
03-03-2009 | 08:08 AM
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OK, now what's it gonna take to make this whole thing right, and go away with all parties involved happy and remaining friends ?? I'd really like to see Bill get some kind of compensation for all the grief and aggravation he's been put through.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum. AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry.
Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum.
AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry. Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
I believe Pinky did'nt deserve what was thrown at her. Ditto BIG Daddy
And not once but again yesterday WTF
FYI 10X motor is apart ,parts being made/machined in Yorkville..motor should be back together and picked up monday and dropped right in the boat
PEACE OUT .
03-03-2009 | 09:32 AM
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OK, now what's it gonna take to make this whole thing right, and go away with all parties involved happy and remaining friends ?? I'd really like to see Bill get some kind of compensation for all the grief and aggravation he's been put through.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum. AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry.
Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
I believe Pinky needs an apology for being disrespected here too. She did'nt deserve what was thrown at her.
What about Larry's engine shop ?? So far, all we've heard was what Eric has spoken in representation of the engine shop. Not that I nor most other guys on here not believe what Eric has told us, because I believe he's speaking from his heart, and all he wants to do is get this whole mess resolved as simply as possible. There's pleny of evidence to prove that is a reasonable statement. I'm just really, really surprized that no one with any kind of authority to speak of, from the engine shop, can shed any light on what has happened. Does'nt make the shop look too credible IMO.
That being said, what's the next step ?? I really don't think that Bill nor Eric would really want to keep this thread alive, because first of all, it's not fixing the problem that Bill has adopted. So, let's stop all the personal he said this, and they said that, and I remember when you were pizzed at somebody else, JEEEZZZZZ, this stuff's starting to sound like that soap opera "As the stomach turns" My mom's getting interested in reading this stuff. LMAO
Really guys, what's it gonna take to get this resolved ?? I wanna hear some reasonable solutions from here on, and anyone that just wants to stir the pot, leave your comments on the Apache forum.
AHHHHHH $hit !!!!! Did I really say that "A" word ??? Sorry. Bill, let's hear from you what you feel would be necessary to make everything right. Let's leave all the negative comments aside and put forth a positive thought to get you up and running. I know you don't have any personal bad feeling towards Eric, so let's begin talking again like the friends that we are.
Eric, I know you are only trying to speak up for Larry's shop, but sometimes that's not enough. I think we both know that if the shop would've returned Bill's phone calls with his complaints, things would've been a whole lot different. That's not what happened, so, now where do we go from here ??? Since you have a voice in this matter, I believe that possibly the best thing for the 2 of you guys to do, would be get on the phone, and discuss this whole thing from end to end, and come up with a reasonable solution that'll be suitable for both parties. I really think that this will be the only way to put some closure on this whole matter.
I'm not taking any sides here, I've put myself in both parties position, and I feel that Bill should've gotten a little more attention than he did, especially after the thousands of dollars that was spent by him. Put yourself in his shoes, and then see how you'd feel being treated the way he was. Nuff said, now let the healing progess begin.
BTW, once this matter is resolved, you guys will be receiving my arbotration bill. LMAO Better have plenty of gas in them Skaters bro, cause I'm not cheap. Grey G@@se for everybody.
At the end of the day it's a he said/she said. I told Bill many times, I understand his frustration, I understand how much money it takes, I understand why he is pissed. All I asked was some patience.
I think boaters in general are very, very loyal people. I did not post for over 10 pages, but when I started hearing things like, "I wouldn't let Larry rebuild my lawn mower", or, " I wonder if he forgot the rod bolts", it upsets me. I have had everything from bone stock Mercury motors to Sterlings, and I feel my combo now is the absolute best, so yeah I defended my builder.
I'm sure in a month or two things will blow over. Although my Skater won't be done for Desert Storm, I will be there all week on another boat. If Bill wants to talk to me then, thats cool......if he doesn't, thats ok too.
Hopefully I will see some of you on the water.....
Erik
03-03-2009 | 09:54 AM
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Nice post!!!!
At the end of the day it's a he said/she said. I told Bill many times, I understand his frustration, I understand how much money it takes, I understand why he is pissed. All I asked was some patience.
I think boaters in general are very, very loyal people. I did not post for over 10 pages, but when I started hearing things like, "I wouldn't let Larry rebuild my lawn mower", or, " I wonder if he forgot the rod bolts", it upsets me. I have had everything from bone stock Mercury motors to Sterlings, and I feel my combo now is the absolute best, so yeah I defended my builder.
I'm sure in a month or two things will blow over. Although my Skater won't be done for Desert Storm, I will be there all week on another boat. If Bill wants to talk to me then, thats cool......if he doesn't, thats ok too.
Hopefully I will see some of you on the water.....
Erik
At the end of the day it's a he said/she said. I told Bill many times, I understand his frustration, I understand how much money it takes, I understand why he is pissed. All I asked was some patience.
I think boaters in general are very, very loyal people. I did not post for over 10 pages, but when I started hearing things like, "I wouldn't let Larry rebuild my lawn mower", or, " I wonder if he forgot the rod bolts", it upsets me. I have had everything from bone stock Mercury motors to Sterlings, and I feel my combo now is the absolute best, so yeah I defended my builder.
I'm sure in a month or two things will blow over. Although my Skater won't be done for Desert Storm, I will be there all week on another boat. If Bill wants to talk to me then, thats cool......if he doesn't, thats ok too.
Hopefully I will see some of you on the water.....
Erik
Even though this is a kind of funny thread !!!!!
See ya on the water and u all be safe !!!!
03-03-2009 | 10:26 AM
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daredevil,
I do not get it are you Bill's friend ? You have more posts in this thread than Bill does and from what I have seen and read about you in the past I would not want you as a tag along.
Not to change the thread but does anybody really know this daredevil guy ? He is like the plague around here just like LLD was when he came on the site or am I the one that is wrong.
dirtdevil I have been in the auto and marine business since 1979 and on this site since 2002 as you can see from my post count I do not get involved much but I smell a rat looking for some cheese.
I do not get it are you Bill's friend ? You have more posts in this thread than Bill does and from what I have seen and read about you in the past I would not want you as a tag along.
Not to change the thread but does anybody really know this daredevil guy ? He is like the plague around here just like LLD was when he came on the site or am I the one that is wrong.
dirtdevil I have been in the auto and marine business since 1979 and on this site since 2002 as you can see from my post count I do not get involved much but I smell a rat looking for some cheese.
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03-03-2009 | 10:44 AM
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03-03-2009 | 10:50 AM
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03-03-2009 | 12:11 PM
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Ok,,lets go on with the BS !!!
Brian 41 ,,,,sorry to hear that u are 30 years in the car and boat bussiness and only made it to a 1994 -32 foot Baja ?!
Seems like u had more down's then up's ?!
But again maybe boating is not your thing and thats why your not posting that often ?
Also about the friend question,,,don't need any,they cost to much money,,,bin there !
Now continue with the bashing and u all show YOUR thru caracter,,i quess u all know mine without knowing me ?!
Brian 41 ,,,,sorry to hear that u are 30 years in the car and boat bussiness and only made it to a 1994 -32 foot Baja ?!
Seems like u had more down's then up's ?!
But again maybe boating is not your thing and thats why your not posting that often ?
Also about the friend question,,,don't need any,they cost to much money,,,bin there !
Now continue with the bashing and u all show YOUR thru caracter,,i quess u all know mine without knowing me ?!
