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Old 02-24-2009, 06:40 AM
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Are you kidding me,how much is or I guess was this guy worth??????
Alot... It will be interesting to see the outcome.

That is alot of boat for $265k, but the maintenance would scare me..
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Will they take a check?
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Will they take a check?
You & I together couldn't afford a propeller, let alone the boat!
You do have the truck to pull it though........wrong color truck, but still.........
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The answer I got was 50-100K per year not including the fact that my F350 isn't capable of hauling it.

That's not really an accurate estimate. I shopped 46's before I bought my 368, and the times it's NOT on the water were what changed my mind. You "could" spend that much every year, but it's definitely not going to require even close to that. The 1150's aren't any different than if they were in a 36 or 40, so just being in a bigger boat doesn't make them any less reliable or more expensive to operate.

Hypothetically: If you bought it, and wanted to rebuild both engines for piece of mind, Sterling would likely charge apprx $20-25k per, if nothing is damaged, for a total rebuild. Those engines are the same as their "1050", but have Big Chief heads to make the extra power. Tranny's are cheap to rebuild, like a couple grand each.

Once you've done that, there's really nothing left to worry about if it's done right. That doesn't need to be done every year on those engines & tranny's, maybe not even every other year if you properly stay on top of the general service.

I have 70 hours on my 1050's, and just now "decided" to pull them for a refresh while the boat is at Skater being updated. I change oil/fuel filters ever 20-25 hours, check valves every 30-40, and run high octane fuel even though they are set to run 93 for cheap insurance.

The bigger truck that you'll likely never use, storage for the boat, truck, & trailer, and other storage issues are the pain in the ass.

Edit: Damn, I just realized it comes with two EXTRA engines?? What a firesale!

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What, specifically, does Sterling (or anyone else for that matter) do to the motors during a $20K "referesh"? I'll guess new valve springs, valves, retainers, lifters and push rods (as necessary), then rings and bearings and anything else that shows up. Is that right? I feel like I must be missing somthing because the cost of these marine "refreshes" seems astronomical to me. Just curious. Something i've wondered about for a while.
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"most people are keeping their cash in the bank."
Even that might be a risky move these days!!!
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Even that might be a risky move these days!!!
No sh!t! I decided to tie all mine up in a boat, truck, house & a woman. I figure it is all going to go to waste anyway, might as well have fun watching it go away.
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What, specifically, does Sterling (or anyone else for that matter) do to the motors during a $20K "referesh"? I'll guess new valve springs, valves, retainers, lifters and push rods (as necessary), then rings and bearings and anything else that shows up. Is that right? I feel like I must be missing somthing because the cost of these marine "refreshes" seems astronomical to me. Just curious. Something i've wondered about for a while.
I must be missing somthing because the cost of these marine "refreshes" seems astronomical to me.

I thought it was just another part of boating ...
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I must be missing somthing because the cost of these marine "refreshes" seems astronomical to me.

I thought it was just another part of boating ...
Well yah, that's what I was sort of trying to work out... is this a "bend over, you own a boat" pricing or is the refresh more comprehensive.

Seemed like we could do stock car motors (albeit small blocks) complete in the low $20s... the same (or at least similar) road racing motor was $40k (the "bend over you're road racing now" pricing as it were) and then, we move over to boating where you see 2x pricing for blown big block stuff... Maybe it makes sense, maybe it's the "no reacharound for you" tax... I was just curious (an no not that kind of "curious").
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Well yah, that's what I was sort of trying to work out... is this a "bend over, you own a boat" pricing or is the refresh more comprehensive.

Seemed like we could do stock car motors (albeit small blocks) complete in the low $20s... the same (or at least similar) road racing motor was $40k (the "bend over you're road racing now" pricing as it were) and then, we move over to boating where you see 2x pricing for blown big block stuff... Maybe it makes sense, maybe it's the "no reacharound for you" tax... I was just curious (an no not that kind of "curious").
I'm sure you could find someone else just as competent to rebuild them for a little less. I was just trying to explain the maximum cost if someone were to rebuild them using Sterling, since they built the motors originally. The prices I used to explain were just a ballpark for a total rebuild and not just a freshening.

A small/big block road racing motor doesn't deal with near the stress that a marine racing engine endures. The parts have to be twice as strong, where as a car motor can use lighter parts to achieve relatively the same power. Making a race car motor into a boat motor doesn't usually work very well from what I've experienced and seen.

When a new marine engine like this can cost anywhere from $50k+ each to build new, a complete teardown & rebuild for +/- $20k using ALL new parts isn't all that uncommon. If you re-use current pieces that you deem to be in good shape, you'll probably save up front as well. You'll likely pay more down the road however, and waste valuable time on the water.

A "refresh" could be $7k per motor if nothing is already torn up.

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