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Your getting the Duramax to live at 1,000 hp for how long? What rpm and in what application? Who's headers you using?
There are a lot of people out there trying this same thing and the rotating assm has to changed from centered rods to billet and the same with the crank. Everyone says 500 hp is the max on the factory lower end.
Duramax has a lot of charm, but no one has built one yet and shown it. People have been promising this for years now and nothing has come of it.
35K for a 1,000 hp motor is a good price, if it can live in a boat for 3-400 hrs. Gernades aren't worth spit as the labor and rebuilds cost will more than the boat.
The Duramax engine can be purchased new for 12-13K so getting a used engine should not be a concern. Banks is one of the authorized resellers of the Duramax engines.
There are a lot of people out there trying this same thing and the rotating assm has to changed from centered rods to billet and the same with the crank. Everyone says 500 hp is the max on the factory lower end.
Duramax has a lot of charm, but no one has built one yet and shown it. People have been promising this for years now and nothing has come of it.
35K for a 1,000 hp motor is a good price, if it can live in a boat for 3-400 hrs. Gernades aren't worth spit as the labor and rebuilds cost will more than the boat.
The Duramax engine can be purchased new for 12-13K so getting a used engine should not be a concern. Banks is one of the authorized resellers of the Duramax engines.
EDIT: I am curious, where did you get that info?
Thanks
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Last edited by Wolford; 09-12-2009 at 08:26 PM.
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Wolford - you didn't answer my questions therefore I will not waste my time with you - good night have a nice life!
oops - I appologize I said gears but meant gear ratios and prop size
oops - I appologize I said gears but meant gear ratios and prop size
Last edited by HabanaJoe; 09-12-2009 at 08:10 PM.
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Headers may not be a good idea, in general, in a turbo charged diesel application, let alone a marine app with cooled exhaust. A warm turbo is a happy one. You need heat(expanding gas) to drive the turbine.
Probably need a stainless log style manifold. Really thick, with water jackets. That should keep most of the heat in the exhaust while still keeping the external heat(fire hazards) minimal.
Probably need a stainless log style manifold. Really thick, with water jackets. That should keep most of the heat in the exhaust while still keeping the external heat(fire hazards) minimal.
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You have a nice life while my parts and systems keep you safe, enjoy boating
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Why have I been met with such hostility? I'm here to learn. I dont know very much about boating in general, I was actually hoping to get some pointers out of this thread, but I guess not. I'm a hobbiest, I just like to go fast with diesel power. I did not mean to step on anybody's toes.
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The pricing is getting a bit out of hand if it goes into the 40's as that is just to much to pay for something like this. As I've said, the 1,000 hp does not seem realistic "in a boat" as the most common application would be a heavier boat requiring two of these and the loads will be higher than in your boat and this will tax the egt's and the life of them. The motors do not like rpm and they all say this. I'd like to see the 5K rpm though I don't think it is realistic.
My info? I'm a newby to the boating world. I learn everything from the internet.
Seriously though, there are many people out there with this same idea and plan. None have produced as I have mentioned before and I've spoken to a lot of them, not all but a lot.
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Taking a 13K motor and adding 22K in modifications is not enough? Sounds like an alacart dinner. 
The pricing is getting a bit out of hand if it goes into the 40's as that is just to much to pay for something like this. As I've said, the 1,000 hp does not seem realistic "in a boat" as the most common application would be a heavier boat requiring two of these and the loads will be higher than in your boat and this will tax the egt's and the life of them. The motors do not like rpm and they all say this. I'd like to see the 5K rpm though I don't think it is realistic.
My info? I'm a newby to the boating world. I learn everything from the internet.
Seriously though, there are many people out there with this same idea and plan. None have produced as I have mentioned before and I've spoken to a lot of them, not all but a lot.

The pricing is getting a bit out of hand if it goes into the 40's as that is just to much to pay for something like this. As I've said, the 1,000 hp does not seem realistic "in a boat" as the most common application would be a heavier boat requiring two of these and the loads will be higher than in your boat and this will tax the egt's and the life of them. The motors do not like rpm and they all say this. I'd like to see the 5K rpm though I don't think it is realistic.
My info? I'm a newby to the boating world. I learn everything from the internet.
Seriously though, there are many people out there with this same idea and plan. None have produced as I have mentioned before and I've spoken to a lot of them, not all but a lot.I would love to see somebody accomplish this. I have not heard of anybody currently trying? I am going to one day...just not today. There was a time when everybody said a BB couldnt achieve 1000hp....just food for thought
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Everyone says about 4,300 rpm max so????
You have to look at what the diesel has to offer and what the perceptions the buyers are going to want.
Diesels
1. Torque
2. Reliability
3. Heavy
4. Efficient (fuel)
5. Low maintainance
Wants
1. Torque
2. Reliability
3. Light weight
4. Efficient
5 Low maintainance
Duramax is light, (comparatively speaking) can be low maintainance and can be reliable. You try to tweak it and get power but if reliability suffers you are in the same boat as the gas engines and if this is the case, why bother.
People want it all, especially boaters. When you say 1,000 hp you have to realize making the engine produce 1,000 hp is one thing, making it produce it and live is another thing. No one is going to invest in a gernade engine. In Sweden there is a company "marine diesel" that marinizes the Duramax. They do not tweak them above 400 hp and I would guess they use a stock Duramax engine http://www.marinediesel.nu/md_site_com.html
You have to look at what the diesel has to offer and what the perceptions the buyers are going to want.
Diesels
1. Torque
2. Reliability
3. Heavy
4. Efficient (fuel)
5. Low maintainance
Wants
1. Torque
2. Reliability
3. Light weight
4. Efficient
5 Low maintainance
Duramax is light, (comparatively speaking) can be low maintainance and can be reliable. You try to tweak it and get power but if reliability suffers you are in the same boat as the gas engines and if this is the case, why bother.
People want it all, especially boaters. When you say 1,000 hp you have to realize making the engine produce 1,000 hp is one thing, making it produce it and live is another thing. No one is going to invest in a gernade engine. In Sweden there is a company "marine diesel" that marinizes the Duramax. They do not tweak them above 400 hp and I would guess they use a stock Duramax engine http://www.marinediesel.nu/md_site_com.html
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Why have I been met with such hostility? I'm here to learn. I dont know very much about boating in general, I was actually hoping to get some pointers out of this thread, but I guess not. I'm a hobbiest, I just like to go fast with diesel power. I did not mean to step on anybody's toes.



