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Donman 08-25-2009 10:05 PM

Single-engine Cat ?
 
Let`s discuss single engine cats. I`m thinking in the 25-30 ft range.
Who makes a hull of this description ? Which ones are good / who to stay away from ?

Lastly .... anyone know of an affordable project / hull ?

tblrklakemo 08-25-2009 10:14 PM

Older project cat in that size....eliminator, AO, or HTM....?

hotstang46 08-25-2009 10:33 PM

depends what you're looking for...... I'm assuming you're looking used? I have two ..... a 26 awesome and a new 29 force canopy with an arneson that has had some delays hitting the water.

They are two very very different boats. The force is a west coast custom and the attention to detail shows. It is a canopy and will do a good job of keeping you out of the wind. Whereas the awesome doesn't have one, which is nice sometimes too. The attention to detail on the awesome is not even close. It however is built like a tank. It is not that light and not 100% about speed. It actually has a little fridge, porto potty and a small birth. It has a ton of storage underdeck as well. So with that said the awesome won't be as quick as the force. It is also a true tunnel whereas the force has a center sponson.

I could go on and on but you need to determine what features are important to you and how you will be using the boat. That will eliminate a bunch right off the bat.

PS.....If you're looking for a hull project i would definatley take a close look at a Magic Hull (a west coast custom). If you haven't heard of them they recently went bankrupt and this company has all of their hulls....they have a ton of them and they are going for very good prices. You could be on the water with a brand new boat for an awesome price. And I personally like their boats.

http://www.lbys.com/site_page_12297/

spectras only 08-25-2009 10:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc7W...eature=related

DMOORE 08-25-2009 10:58 PM

DCB,
Howard,
Conquest,
AO,
Advantage,
Eliminator,
HTM2,

Just to mane a few of the West Coast builders that offer boats in that size range.



Darrell.

TexomaPowerboater 08-25-2009 11:10 PM

http://www.rpmpowerboats.com/redline.htm

I like the looks and price of the 26 redline.

aTX427 08-25-2009 11:16 PM

In order:
28 Skater - twin OB
Distant second
24 Skater - twin OB
25 Talon - twin OB
26 Eliminator - I/O with stand off box
26 DCB - Twin OB or I/O

If you go any bigger, you will need big power to move them and break drives often.

DMOORE 08-25-2009 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by aTX427 (Post 2939828)
In order:
28 Skater - twin OB
Distant second
24 Skater - twin OB
25 Talon - twin OB
26 Eliminator - I/O with stand off box
26 DCB - Twin OB or I/O

If you go any bigger, you will need big power to move them and break drives often.



I think the question was "single engine cat".




Darrell.

HTRDLNCN 08-25-2009 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2939825)
http://www.rpmpowerboats.com/redline.htm

I like the looks and price of the 26 redline.

My choice as well when it comes to cats,
nice size cabin for a small cat as well,
unfortunately for Donman I dont think
there are too many "affordable project " Redlines out there?

aTX427 08-26-2009 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by DMOORE (Post 2939833)
I think the question was "single engine cat".

Darrell.

I know, but the OP may not have considered twin OB's as an option. They are fast, easy to maintain, CHEAP to insure and there are lots of really nice used boats on the market. Lake Texoma is a choppy lake. A single I/O with any kind of power is going to be tough on Bravo outdrives. South Austin Marine has a nice 28 Daytona with a single B-Max that I know they want to move - ask for Abel if you are interested. You may also want to check screamandfly.com.

PURPLE HORNET 08-26-2009 12:49 AM

O/B cats

http://liberatorfl.tripod.com/

jason6116 08-26-2009 05:40 AM

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If your interested, I have a 2009 25' Daytona with a carbureted 572 for sale.

Maritime_Eng 08-26-2009 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2939825)
http://www.rpmpowerboats.com/redline.htm

I like the looks and price of the 26 redline.

If I was looking for a single engine cat this would be the one.

26 REDLINE 08-26-2009 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2939825)
http://www.rpmpowerboats.com/redline.htm

I like the looks and price of the 26 redline.

Hands down, and this is from the horses mouth, I bought my RPM in October 07, it is a true custom build I took Del. in April 08, The boat is amazing...I could go on and on but here are other threads and some videos enjoy....

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...o-132-mph.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...what-ride.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ngine-cat.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...r-service.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...nce-848-a.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHQmjw1yCsE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6fVXH5l8NI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T2wUBeDDl0

Brad Zastrow 08-26-2009 11:10 AM

A 24 or 28 Skater are not cheap to insure. Quite the opposite. They are very expensive to insure.
There a lot of Eliminator Daytona's out there with single I/O power that would make a nice project.

raceday500 08-26-2009 01:47 PM

25 Talon
 
25 Talon

tbanzer 08-26-2009 02:44 PM

I am very happy with my HTM. Largest cockpit and useable cabin of any cat near its size. Cabin with room to change and a portapotti was a must and its the only cat in that size range that fits those requirements

johnnyboatman 08-26-2009 03:06 PM

Didnt U Just Buy That 25 Daytona?

Quent 08-26-2009 03:29 PM

27 Lavey on OSO Classified.

OCM 08-26-2009 05:07 PM

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27,5 ft Nordic Thor ! 90+ with merc 525,and 120+ with a merc 700sci nxt package. (with some mods)
TIM
oregoncustommarine.com

spectras only 08-26-2009 05:38 PM

I'd add this canadian built Cougar to the mix.Well built and fast with a single.

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/4342

HTRDLNCN 08-26-2009 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by spectras only (Post 2940353)
I'd add this canadian built Cougar to the mix.Well built and fast with a single.

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/4342

Wow,, how did we go from an "affordable project/hull" to
an $85k boat??????
I know affordable is relative depending on how big a baller you are but wow!
:D

Donman 08-26-2009 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN (Post 2940401)
Wow,, how did we go from an "affordable project/hull" to
an $85k boat??????
I know affordable is relative depending on how big a baller you are but wow!
:D



Frank, these guys don`t know how broke, or should I say "how much of a tight wad" I am. When I say "affordable project", I mean CHEAP.


Thanks for the replies guys.

I am studying my options now. Gotta run it by my "financial advisor" ( WIFE ) for approval.

OkieTunnel 08-26-2009 08:27 PM

The warlock you saw last weekend will go in the high 40's. Dependable 100mph cat with a porta-potti! I'll see you again on Labor Day. I'll give you a ride if you are interested!

HTRDLNCN 08-26-2009 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Donman (Post 2940474)
Frank, these guys don`t know how broke, or should I say "how much of a tight wad" I am. When I say "affordable project", I mean CHEAP..

LOL,,I also know by the time your done with them they are worth a lot more!

spectras only 08-26-2009 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN (Post 2940401)
Wow,, how did we go from an "affordable project/hull" to
an $85k boat??????
I know affordable is relative depending on how big a baller you are but wow!
:D



Didn't say to buy that boat, lol. Before Wayne Booth shot down operations of Cougar boats in Salmon Arm BC , he had a brand new 27 MTR fully rigged on a trailer minus engine. It was offered at 37K cdn. I merely suggested it's a very good cat and one could be found as a project , or I may suggest to buy a hull only from the new builder of Cougar boats USA.

lake speed 08-27-2009 09:26 PM

25' Eliminator Daytona with new 640 ci bbc runs well over 100 mph on pump gas and I will sell it to you sitting on an Extreme trailer "cheap"

johnnyboatman 08-27-2009 09:56 PM

lake speed how cheap

johnlomant 08-28-2009 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by lake speed (Post 2941277)
25' Eliminator Daytona with new 640 ci bbc runs well over 100 mph on pump gas and I will sell it to you sitting on an Extreme trailer "cheap"

Nice boat ive been in it a few times and even driven the boat. Looks great and is fast as hell.

lake speed 08-28-2009 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by johnnyboatman (Post 2941299)
lake speed how cheap

$44,000. the motor has 8 hours on it. 1.36 Imco extreme drive with extension box, cmi headers, dart big m block, dart cnc 360 heads, dart intake, single 1195 pro systems dominator, bob madera hydraulic roller cam,all comp valve train, manton push rods, torrington bearing timing chain, dooley oil pan billet oil pump,ati balancer etc... not a scratch on the boat super nice clean interior, custom hatch with scoop but also still has sun pad. This is one of the fastest single engine boats in my area. it idles around the doc with no problems. this is a reliable turn key 100+ mph cat.

21 Hustler 08-28-2009 08:27 AM

do it right the first time...go with a hustler 25 talon

Donman 08-28-2009 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by OkieTunnel (Post 2940492)
The warlock you saw last weekend will go in the high 40's. Dependable 100mph cat with a porta-potti! I'll see you again on Labor Day. I'll give you a ride if you are interested!



That`s sounds like a good deal for your boat. I`m really thinking single-engine though. I would love to find a good project. It seems that I wind up redoing every boat I own anyway, so might as well buy one cheap to start with.

TwoKs 09-16-2009 09:19 PM

Hotstang46 I just checked out that website on the magic boats for sale Wow they have alot them for sale Do you know anything about these hulls? Like are they cored? Do they have a pod? Any body know how they perform? From the pictures they look like they have interior too just no power looks like a sweet deal Thanks for any info Keith

Advantage_Rob 09-23-2009 08:23 AM

I saw on craigslist a 2003 28 magic cat with a HP500 for $42,000 on a trailer, it looks nice? Tennessee I dont know the boat or anything about magic, but in the pics it looks like a nice place to start!

http://sandusky.craigslist.org/boa/1350639164.html

Catmando 09-23-2009 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by lake speed (Post 2941479)
$44,000. the motor has 8 hours on it. 1.36 Imco extreme drive with extension box, cmi headers, dart big m block, dart cnc 360 heads, dart intake, single 1195 pro systems dominator, bob madera hydraulic roller cam,all comp valve train, manton push rods, torrington bearing timing chain, dooley oil pan billet oil pump,ati balancer etc... not a scratch on the boat super nice clean interior, custom hatch with scoop but also still has sun pad. This is one of the fastest single engine boats in my area. it idles around the doc with no problems. this is a reliable turn key 100+ mph cat.

Helluva deal right there. How does that carb work around the docks? Does it keep the motor lit when you shift? I had a 1050 Dom on my boat and it really sucked trying to dock.

Has the motor been dyno'd?

DrewDown 09-23-2009 09:37 AM

perfect project boat.
http://jackson.craigslist.org/boa/1360551355.html

lake speed 09-23-2009 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 2958754)
Helluva deal right there. How does that carb work around the docks? Does it keep the motor lit when you shift? I had a 1050 Dom on my boat and it really sucked trying to dock.

Has the motor been dyno'd?

it runs and idles fine around the dock. if you let it idle for a long while you need to clean it out with a rev or two but thats to be expected. with the 136 gear set its a little harder to dock with the 30" prop. idle speed is about 15 mph lol!!! it makes over 800hp on pump gas.

Strip Poker 388 09-23-2009 02:20 PM

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You looking for speed or something with a little room up front?



Heres a simgle engine,but big cat:drink:

Catmando 09-23-2009 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2958949)
You looking for speed or something with a little room up front?



Heres a simgle engine,but big cat:drink:

Yeah 5000hp!! :eek: :drink:

Fix your typo Rob.

Unitek 09-23-2009 03:24 PM

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