Who's running a #6 in a single engine application
 

I am going to have my 540 with Whipple 5.0L upgraded over the winter, I am looking @ upgrading my Max Machine Worxs drive and going with a #6 drive. Is there anyone running this in a single engine cat, pros, cons, what should I expect, will I benifit by going this rout, will it be worth the upgrade, just waying my options, I thought about going with the IMCO SCX but I just don't think it would hold up...any input would be greatly appreciated:drink:

There is a 26 eliminator that graces the classifieds from time to time....i know its not the only one.

Masher had a single #6 on Slim Shady with just under 1000hp running through it. Maybe he will chime in and give you his input.

rod tsfigurre (scorcerer ) had one on a 26 talon .look for a thread on here

Has any one run a #6 on a htm sr24

You may want to do some research on the new "indy" and the conrad.

The conrad is pretty much bullet proof. I read alot about the new Indy.. That will hold some big power as well and not rob alot of HP to use!! I heard $ for $ the indy and the conrad are much cheaper then the #6 for the complete set up.. Also the # 6 is not bullet proof either just a lot more reliable for big power and heavier hulls Did you consider and Arneson or a surface drive? Rik at Arneson can really hook you up too. #6 uses a lot of HP to run!!


Good luck and post what you do

I talked to the guy that had a 26 Daytona with a #6 and 1200HP. He said it porposed like crazy. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Looked into the Arneson, but its not a simple swap, I would have to add on to the center pod, and it looks like it would be a pain to deal with, don't get me wrong I like my MMW but would love a little more peace of mind, with a better drive, looked @ Konrad, but not a bolt on replacemnt, not sure of the Indy, it i a beautiful drive, the Xpower drive won't work, the drive needs some tweeking to run on a single cat, already had a friend try one gave it back, it wouldn;t work on his cat...at all..:eek:

"commander112" went from Bravo blues to a Number V drive (5, not a 6); on his Commander cat. (1300HP or something close to it)

It took a lot of dialing in and work. He had to move the engine forward & redo the transom, and a bunch of other stuff. When it was all done; he sold it for a stock powered 28AT.

Keep it stock (or mild) and go boating on the weekend;
or make it radical and go wrenching on the weekend.

what kinda of pwr are you running?
I think the SCX is rated for 900/900 or close to it.

It ends the "Bravo Blues" for sure.:drink:

The first drive I would look at is the Weismann. Fifteen years ago they dry-sumped Mercury's #6, then designed and built their own. It's half the weight of the Merc and is rated @1600hp. They are also testing a new version of the old Blackhawk twin prop drive also rated@1600hp. Their drives and transmissions have been banned from US Offshore racing because they were TOO good, i.e. giving Merc too much competition.

Give Pat Weismann a call, see what he can do for you;

www.weismann.net

Between 1100-1200hp depending on setup and fuel....the boat has run 132mph, but there is more there, ran out of prop...I have the whipple 5.0L SC

Your Max is not gonna hold up under 1300+. You say the new X Power doesn't work and the Arneson takes too much transom rework, so you're really confined to either the Merc 6 or the Weismann 6. There is another drive, called the Sage Drive, but I'm not sure if it can be run as a single.

The weight issue in your small cat will probably make the choice easy.

Thats what I am worried about with the #6 is the weight, I like the Arneson, and Steve RPM says that the center pod work is not a big deal, but after reading the fourm in the Force section I don't know if that is the way to go, just weighing my options right now, I have looked @ the weismann, but there website doesn't give much information...

300 extra pounds

Was wondering when I was going to see this post. :coolcowboy: Can't wait to see what you decide on. I think I'd be really tempted by the arneson...

very impressive. clean and tight

Yup, changed the drive coupler, but the drive has a problem also, it will be @ MMW Wednesday morning for a rebuild...what a biotch 3 grand last year, 6 grand this year, and so on, oh well thats what we, as high performance boaters look forward to...spendin money:angry-smiley-038: I am just thankful I am able to afford it....for now:eek:

John you have seen me run the boat, no jack rabbit starts and I never hammer the throttle I always ease into it, WTF I just don't understand why the chit keeps going out, that is why I am looking @ other options, the Arneson is damn fine but alot of work has to be done to the bottom center pad of the boat, maybe I ought to just get a 496 with a bravo...NOT:lolhit: you know you will be one of the first to know next summer...

scx hands down, easiest most reliable setup without major modification.

I think the arneson will be worth the work. I am sure Rik will give you all the help and support you need.

Try a little more homework and call him he is the master and will point you in the direction you want to go... If once you spoke to him and he says too hard to make work... The Weisman would be my second choice!

Good luck

#6.....tried and true. If people can run them on their single engine eliminators, you can do it on the RPM.

Yup :evilb: just wondering how it will perform, wish Mercury had a try it before you buy it, I would have it next weekend...:drink:

26Redline , send a PM to member "kanedog" on performanceboats.com/ . He has an 26 Eliminator Daytona with #6 hanging off the stern.

In this picture he didn't have one , but after breaking a few drives he went for the 6.

http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Rob26daytona
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/e...r%20engine.JPG

The paddle is a nice touch for more HP that drive can handle:drink: I love it...I started to buy a motorguied "Im Lazy":lolhit:

I'd think the #6 would a no brainer. As Sea-Dated said, Masher has been running one on his 32 Activator for quite some time. He doesn't pull his punches either. It has been well tested for a single engine application. I haven't ever heard him say that he was down due to drive issues. I was thinking one would look good hanging off of my 24 Superboat too!:drink:

mark kinser had a #6 on his 28' Elim daytona. I think he had around 1500hp+ in it...... Ran 144 or 148 in the shootout a few years back.

Do the #6, that boat will run like a raped Ape. I Talked to Steve about building a #6 boat a while back and I whoosed out. If not a 6 do Arneson RIKs route. Either way that boat is gonna run very well.

I have spent time in Mark Kinsers boat. The set up has perfect with BIG power in it.I can put you in touch with him send me a PM.

Thats an awfully small top pulley:eek::drink:

They must have goood gas there. :) Doug

If you're doing it this winter you'll obviously be able to see how I pan out. I know you've been following my thread but I have to re iterate. My problems haven't really been related to the arneson. We've only splashed it a couple times due to the other issues you've probably read about.

I think/ hope it's just going to be finding the right style prop and adding the additional trim pieces to the drive rik has sent ( thanks rik:drink:) We will know more when we splash again in the next couple weeks. If it runs like stink I think you'll have your solution. Besides, set up time for you will surely be less because of the knowledge we can share about the set up.

:coolcowboy:

there website doesn't give much information...


Yeah for some reason they don't update very much. Lots of old stuff still on it. Call Pat he will lay it all out for you. His name here is shifter.

Why would you want that heavy drive?? With a 26' boat, weight is your enemy. Arneson and/or Weismann are the way to go.

weisman has a new duo prop drive as well that will handle some big hp...counter rotating props at speed...priceless.

http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forum...read.php?t=914

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They must have goood gas there. :) Doug

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owning a helicopter , I'm sure getting avgas is no problemo for him.

Jeff, I would think the #6 would be just as much work to convert to as the arneson. Recut transom, move engine forward, bottom work, etc. Just a guess though. It would probably be worth a call to arneson and wiesmann to see what they have to say.

26 REDLINE,

This is the drive you need;

http://weismann.net/Press%20Pages/20...annDuoProp.htm

Here it is running. Notice there's NO torque steer at all;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcf1A...eature=related

Well I have been pondering on what to do, I just got off the phone with Mike @ Konrad, great guys but the ACE is only rated for 800hp, I have not talked to Weisman, or Rik @ Arneson, but I don't know if thats the rout I want to go, I can do a number 6 with no boat modification the engine can stay where it is, but I am still looking at other options, I love the duoprop setup of the weisman so I am going to give them a call tomorrow, but I am not going the rout of the IMCO SCX, I might as well keep what I have, I appreciate everyones input and please keep it coming every little bit helps...:drink:

Two big pluses for the Arneson are:
1. The engine stays in the same location

2. The box which holds the transmission, is designed to go over the cutout for the bravo.


PS: They are lighter than a #6 also.



Darrell.