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Old 11-06-2009, 07:39 AM
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Ahhh the great Allweiss days! When there were 80+ boat, races, TV and GMC as a sponsor. No competing associations and unity within the sport. <-----heavy sigh!! I miss those days.

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me too!!! I think I have most of them recorded on VHS. Maybe someday.................
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me too!!! I think I have most of them recorded on VHS. Maybe someday.................
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What ever happened to Mike A? Is he still practicing law in St Pete?
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It seemed like malarky and nonsense from the start.....

When was the last time a network asked you to put their logo on your race vehicles.............??????

But....it sure got the rubes, newbies, hangers on, and chest thumpers all pumped up over nothing............

again.

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Rich,

I'm guilty, you're right, I jumped on the band-wagon, gullible and bright-eyed! Even though Clearwater was a bright spot on the history of this past season... It was tainted with all the drama, and masqueraded of the past, I tried to explain as best I could:

I thought it would be appropriate to update what I can. I haven't seen or heard of any progress indicating a pending change or broadcast date!

I have seen SBIP take down the sponsor page of the Clearwater event that they promoted with sponsorships logo's from Hard Rock and the Seminole Indian Tribal Council...

Now the real vested sponsors are included, and the truth is being published on the SBI website!

That's at least progress!

Anything out there?

Anyone? Anyone?

Nothing... I guess like last year in New York when John Carbonell said for all the teams to get to the event, because sponsors will be there. Danny Gadarian promised a party at the Hard Rock Casino... Then you guys show up and have a party under a tent, in the rain, at a park! That's all it takes to keep you coming back for more!

I guess having John Carbonell and Danny Gadarian, tell all of you and the whole world, via press releases and media quotes, that the SBI season will be broadcast on CBS Sports Spectacular, starting Oct 3rd, 2009! Then showing up at a drivers meeting in Clearwater and admitting they didn't get it done! That's all it takes...

Let's see what JC spins this time... Like a race schedule he promotes that has only a few sites that actually pay the sanctioning fee! It would be interesting to hear what he tells the race committee's that actually pay, how he justifies who he does and doesn't charge!

The racers need to end this debacle, they are the only ones that can! Stand up and do something about this guys!



Moving on to a viable horizon,

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Coach...it seems you have it all figured out. Why dont you put your money where your typing fingers are and start an organization. Show us all how offshore needs to be run in order to be a viable product for sponsors.
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It's coming, soon.

Let's cross our fingers Key West 2009 comes off safe and sound...

Then you'll get your answer, soon enough!


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What ever happened to Mike A? Is he still practicing law in St Pete?
Yes I talk to him most everyday. We have our two old F1 Corsa's and go out and beat on each other.
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There has been a lot said about JC over the years and it doesn't seem to change, some love him and other don't. Everyone on here, who are paid members, has a right to state their opinions, whether they are right or wrong. Opinions are just that, one persons opinion. I would love to see live coverage of the Key West Worlds and along with other Offshore Powerboat Races but it isn't happening yet but may some day. I can remember, a few years back watching Offshore Powerboat Racing on TV but that was a long time ago. I don't know why Offshore Powerboat Racing never gets TV coverage that everyone in North America could watch. With the economy, the way it is right now it would even be more difficult to get coverage of Offshore Powerboat Racing as it needs Sponsors Dollars, which isn't there. Another thing that the sport needs is Unification of the Offshore Org's "United We Race" It just isn't a saying it is a must and just one of the things needed. Once everyone is on the same page and not fragmented it will be a bigger show. I have always enjoyed the Offshore Races when more then one org was racing, it was a bigger show for the fans and more competitions for the racers. I look forward to 2010 to see where Offshore Powerboat Racing goes and positive dialogue or opinions is also important.
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There has been a lot said about JC over the years and it doesn't seem to change, some love him and other don't. Everyone on here, who are paid members, has a right to state their opinions, whether they are right or wrong. Opinions are just that, one persons opinion. I would love to see live coverage of the Key West Worlds and along with other Offshore Powerboat Races but it isn't happening yet but may some day. I can remember, a few years back watching Offshore Powerboat Racing on TV but that was a long time ago. I don't know why Offshore Powerboat Racing never gets TV coverage that everyone in North America could watch. With the economy, the way it is right now it would even be more difficult to get coverage of Offshore Powerboat Racing as it needs Sponsors Dollars, which isn't there. Another thing that the sport needs is Unification of the Offshore Org's "United We Race" It just isn't a saying it is a must and just one of the things needed. Once everyone is on the same page and not fragmented it will be a bigger show. I have always enjoyed the Offshore Races when more then one org was racing, it was a bigger show for the fans and more competitions for the racers. I look forward to 2010 to see where Offshore Powerboat Racing goes and positive dialogue or opinions is also important.
UM..... I think T2X can settle this - he knows the politics involved, the cost of production - and more - What JC forgot - was the people like my production only added to the event - and made it possible for any TV productions to get good footage at a reasonable price - Some how - if you bite the hand that feeds you, eventually there is not the hand to bite anymore ! A true Live production would require at least 4 helicopters - and the Talent like T2X to make it interesting - its not all golly gee wow - you need to know what you are talking about - and make it interesting ! but also - instead of having 12 boats race - and 12 different classes - and all of them are in First place - that makes it very confusing ! - oh well - dont get me wound up - think T2X can put it all in a few words !

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IMHO, the biggest issue that Offshore Racing will have in getting big time corporate sponsor dollars is not at all the TV issue....You can simply package up the TV with the sponsorships, as well as other activations, too....The issue is that many of these "other" sponsor activations are directly with the fans of the sport, which all starts with the spectators at the events....The biggest problem with turning Offshore Boat racing into a mainstream sport is the lack of being able to have crazy attendance numbers at the races...

Now, that being said, if you look at what they did at the GOld-Cup in Detroit over the last couple of years, it was really cool...The offshore boats ran as a support race for the Unlimited hydroplanes, and frankly, they put on a hell of a show...However, I completely understand that the racers and the "old school" fans don't have any interest in the shorter 2 1/2 mile race courses, and in many ways, I think the longer 10-15 mile courses are way cooler too....the problem is you can't be in control of a venue that large to sell admission, control the concessions, etc....This not only earns tremendous revenues, but also can make a strong case for sponsors as well when you have 30,000-50,000 people there on race day and 100,000+ over a 3 day weekend...If there was a way to do this, and stage each of the events within 50-75 miles of in the top 25 markets, you now have an easy sell....

I think that the product is DEFINITELY cool enough, and can draw fans...you just have nowhere to put them all at an event, and that is the 25' brick wall that you have to climb before you can move on with the rest of it...
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