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Old 11-10-2009, 10:04 PM
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Motocross is way more popular than offshore racing!!!!!
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Motocross is way more popular than offshore racing!!!!!

I was wondering why that is, don't get me wrong I know that Motocross is more popular the Offshore Powerboat Racing and is Televised. Could it be that the fans get to see continuous race action right in front of them and there is a group of racers battling it out at ever turn and jump. Do you think that Offshore Powerboat Racing could be more popular if they raced close to the fans and where the fans could see the entire race course up close to them.
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I was wondering why that is, don't get me wrong I know that Motocross is more popular the Offshore Powerboat Racing and is Televised. Could it be that the fans get to see continuous race action right in front of them and there is a group of racers battling it out at ever turn and jump. Do you think that Offshore Powerboat Racing could be more popular if they raced close to the fans and where the fans could see the entire race course up close to them.
In a word no. Motocross is much easier to explain and a MX bike is much more attainable to the average household. The manufactures are marketing savvy and engineering driven. The racers at the top can make a very good living rather then having to spend several very good livings.
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I would not call Motocross a "2nd tier" motorsport. Top riders are making in excess of $30mm annually and their entire indoor season is televised on a major network in primetime.
Point taken...but it and its stars are certainly not at the same level as Sprint Cup, Indycar, or Formula One....so they are a level below...... hence...."second tier".

And...for purposes of my enlightenment...which riders (plural) are making $30 million annually?

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Ricky Carmichael is the only person that I could think of that could bring in that kind of dinero(but dont know) from motocross, but his transition over to car/truck racing has been uneventful. As great of a motocross racer that he was/is, he has basically become a field filler for the Camping World series with occasional Nationwide race. The one thing he does have going for him is the Monster sponsorship that came over with him from motocross.
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In a word no. Motocross is much easier to explain and a MX bike is much more attainable to the average household. The manufactures are marketing savvy and engineering driven. The racers at the top can make a very good living rather then having to spend several very good livings.
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Yes Steve, that does make a lot of sense.
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I am laughing so much my side hurts - You have a way with words- always did - even in the Helicopter - why else did I turn off the audio when editing ? I knew you would do the best job - no need to edit you - right down to Dave Gilmore and up close and personal ! haha ! All I had to do was to say - "your on " meaning tape is rolling - you took it from there -


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We did over 240 events - all made interesting by your voice and ideas - I remember often you would see things out front of the helicopter - and your advice as to where to go - and where the action was, was invaluable ! I fondly think back to the days - when we worked together -

If you get to Key West ( am not going - more tests unfortunately) - say hi to the many people that were our clients back then - They made what we did possible -

Stay well Richie - u da man !

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What I am most proud of is the interviews of those racers who have passed away (or were taken away). While the "other" guys didn't have the time and, frankly, the access to the top racers, we were always welcomed with respect and graciousness. I'd like to think that's because they knew we'd risk damn near everything to get the closest action shots with the best equipment and talent, while telling the racing story with honesty, enthusiasm, knowledge and integrity.

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What a concept...

Where could offshore powerboat racing be if that was a principal instilled into it's nature!



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Point taken...but it and its stars are certainly not at the same level as Sprint Cup, Indycar, or Formula One....so they are a level below...... hence...."second tier".

And...for purposes of my enlightenment...which riders (plural) are making $30 million annually?

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Ricky Carmichael for sure and Chad Reed turned down a $30mm total comp package down in 2007/08. I would also not be surprised if Motocross has a higher TV rating than Indy car or Sprint Car. I do not believe either of those two have their entire season televised. I'm not even counting all the MX/SC off shoot shows like the Red Bull Free Style tour and TV or the X Games etc.

For Offshore to ever get close to this level we would need to bring the fans closer to the sport via television, on board cameras, big personalities, younger drivers, more air shots, more crashes and a way to control attendance.
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