Now to get onto their bonding issues in this pic and the 2nd one that is an enlargement you can see a bulhead that has been tabbed into the side of the hull.

Notice that it broke off cleanly like it popped out of a mold..Observe the black marker writing that is on the hull that was under the tabbing lamination . It is unscathed . Showing that no prep such as grindind or even a wipe of acetone was done before the tabbing took place.

I know this is a small example in a large yacht but it all adds up that there was no quality control there and if it is here where else is it that has not been seen yet on the rest of the boat.






How do you think that kinda bond holds up in a boat running like this one holds up?

99% sure you meant to say Outerlimits.......D. Lazzara was running a 42 OL at the Palm Beach race and stuffed/blew it apart.

You sure? It looked like a early 90 vid and the boat was about 33 feet and black . I could be mistaken , I remember I was one time before but I blocked that from my memories a long time ago and refuse to ever let it happen again

how long after the boat went down were those taken? What power was in it and what speed capable of? How old was the boat? (new i thought but its been a while)

oh

seen that before, to long a time has past since the hull was laid up for any type of decent bond without grinding. Any idea what it was built with poly? VE? My gut feeling is five hunderd a drum non spec poly . . . .

It was a model year 2006 built in 2005 and used as a Demo until sold and sunk in 2009. Also it was a 63 not a 57 like i said earlier.

It sunk on Nov 6th 2009 and the video has a onsceen date of Nov 26th and many argued the damge was caused by a storm that had passed thru the area in that time and created all the damage by the boat moving around.

The issue with the date of the video was later clarified to be a week after the sinking bey the owners of the video commenting that the video 's date displayed on the screen was not set properly on the camera.

I believe the boat was capable of 40 knots with somewhere around 2800 hp total I have to go back through old threads to find the specs Dave.

Here is a pic of the boat originally



And an explanation from the President of Bertram in his former position of another company explaining what the cause of the failure was.on a boat of his previous build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ

But not to worry because it has been towed out beyond the Environment

Oh I think you are on the right track on the resin Dave

Also a competitor down the road from where the hulls were being laid up [hull layup was outsourced to another company] said that a distributor for a cheap foam core tried to sell him some of his crap foam core and he refused saying he wouldn't build a flower planter out of it. He suspects they were enticed by the price to purchase it.

Also I am sure there was no vacuum bagging done and they also did not even go as far as using corebond on the outside layer to core area but does appear some may have been used on the inner core as it is bond a little better and i see some indications on it that show it might have been used.

sure . . . . use the right resin and the front doesnt fall off . . . . obviously this was not built so the front doesnt fall off . . . its a bit of a give away








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