Oil spill in the gulf of Mexico
06-17-2010, 01:25 PM
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Actually, the ban on additional drilling was put into place years ago by Bush 41, and had been supported every year continuously through 2008 by every Governor and Legislator in the Gulf States. 2008 was a particularly bad year for politicians due to the high cost of oil and gas, so they told people what they wanted to hear then. Generally speaking, before 2008, most Republicans (and Dems too) in the Gulf States, said the risks to their economies and livelihoods were far greater than the minimal benefits.
Obviously, this was music to the environmentalist's ears. Some of the smart ones actually had reasons for supporting the ban.
Obviously, this was music to the environmentalist's ears. Some of the smart ones actually had reasons for supporting the ban.
06-17-2010, 01:33 PM
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So you are saying the reason we can't drill in ANWR is because of Republican Governors in Southern States - because that is the point I was making - it's better to drill on land in places like ANWR instead of way out in the deep Gulf where the cost is too high if something goes wrong.
Much the same argument for refineries. You'd have to be a complete idiot to build a new refinery nowadays. Many didn't see this.
At any rate, I'd say open up ANWR, and appease the people.
06-17-2010, 01:54 PM
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Come on Jay, mission accomplished? Really? The newest estimated from the US Gov't is that there could be anywhere from 35k to 65k barrels of oil per DAY still spewing into the Gulf and you want to raise a victory flag. I would say the most important mission at this time is to stop the flow of oil into the Gulf, and that mission is far from being accomplished. If you ask me, that is the only mission that should count right now and that is where all of the efforts should be concentrated.
The $20B set aside will not be enough in the end...did you notice BP's stock went up when they essentially announced they were going to take a $20B hit? I wonder why....? I see this as the Administration negotiating a # that in the end will most likely fall far short from the real cost of this disaster (which you also alluded to). I would not call that mission accomplished. In the end I hope BP will (and has the resources to) step up and do the right thing and cover ALL of the costs associated with this disaster.
The $20B set aside will not be enough in the end...did you notice BP's stock went up when they essentially announced they were going to take a $20B hit? I wonder why....? I see this as the Administration negotiating a # that in the end will most likely fall far short from the real cost of this disaster (which you also alluded to). I would not call that mission accomplished. In the end I hope BP will (and has the resources to) step up and do the right thing and cover ALL of the costs associated with this disaster.
That said, IMO he's being disingenuous.
To blame this current spill on Bush is, IMO, utterly ridiculous.
06-17-2010, 01:59 PM
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that makes me just about sick to look at. Where exactly is that?
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06-17-2010, 02:16 PM
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There are some 2000 oil skimmers in the USA, some 21 foreign countries had offered aid including the use of their oil skimmers, and as of yesterday, two months into this disaster, there are but 32 oil skimmers operating in the Gulf on this disaster. There is no excuse for that. Obama has proved to be as inept in responding to this disaster as Bush was to Katrina. I just doin't understand why more isn't being done.
06-17-2010, 02:23 PM
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What "larger effort" would you suggest? A nuke? BTW it's "put FORTH".
06-17-2010, 02:34 PM
#539
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as far as I have heard the offers from ALL other countries to send equipment and help has been denied...I hope that isn't true but that is what is being said. Also skim boats were said to have been shut down today for "Offical" saftey inspetions..WTF are they thinking!!!!
06-17-2010, 02:38 PM
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I got it now, misinterpreted was Jay was saying. I guess I’ve got too much going on here at work and read it too fast!
Sorry Jay. 
