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Old 06-17-2010 | 01:55 PM
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I recived these in a email today,.Say Gulfshores
This makes me wish that we didn't reject aid from other countries, and put fourth a larger effort to keep this thing contained.
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Old 06-17-2010 | 01:59 PM
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I recived these in a email today,.Say Gulfshores
that makes me just about sick to look at. Where exactly is that?
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Old 06-17-2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown
This makes me wish that we didn't reject aid from other countries, and put fourth a larger effort to keep this thing contained.
There are some 2000 oil skimmers in the USA, some 21 foreign countries had offered aid including the use of their oil skimmers, and as of yesterday, two months into this disaster, there are but 32 oil skimmers operating in the Gulf on this disaster. There is no excuse for that. Obama has proved to be as inept in responding to this disaster as Bush was to Katrina. I just doin't understand why more isn't being done.
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Old 06-17-2010 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown
This makes me wish that we didn't reject aid from other countries, and put fourth a larger effort to keep this thing contained.
What are you talking about?? There are ships from Denmark, Norway and other oil-producing countries on site right now.

What "larger effort" would you suggest? A nuke? BTW it's "put FORTH".
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Old 06-17-2010 | 02:32 PM
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What are you talking about?? There are ships from Denmark, Norway and other oil-producing countries on site right now.

What "larger effort" would you suggest? A nuke? BTW it's "put FORTH".
No....he is talking the Jones Act not allowing all the boats from foreign countries made to pick up and skim oil not being allowed to work in our waters. Since the boats were not made in the USA. Another way to support the unions.
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Old 06-17-2010 | 02:34 PM
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What are you talking about?? There are ships from Denmark, Norway and other oil-producing countries on site right now.

What "larger effort" would you suggest? A nuke? BTW it's "put FORTH".
as far as I have heard the offers from ALL other countries to send equipment and help has been denied...I hope that isn't true but that is what is being said. Also skim boats were said to have been shut down today for "Offical" saftey inspetions..WTF are they thinking!!!!
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Old 06-17-2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown
I think he was simply stating that Obama isn't the only president to be optimistic and lie (by saying it will be stopped next week). Mission Accomplished is what GWB said not long into the Iraq War that is still ongoing.

I got it now, misinterpreted was Jay was saying. I guess I’ve got too much going on here at work and read it too fast! Sorry Jay.
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Old 06-17-2010 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LAriverratt
as far as I have heard the offers from ALL other countries to send equipment and help has been denied...I hope that isn't true but that is what is being said. Also skim boats were said to have been shut down today for "Offical" saftey inspetions..WTF are they thinking!!!!
It's true. They went into detail talking about it yesterday on CNBC.


Jones Act Slowing Oil Spill Cleanup?
June 10, 2010 - 5:41 PM | by: Brian Wilson

Foreign companies possessing some of the world’s most advanced oil skimming ships say they are being kept out of efforts to clean up the oil spill in the Gulf because of a 1920’s law known as the Jones Act -- a protectionist law that requires vessels working in US waters be built in the US and be crewed by US workers.

Joseph Carafano of the Heritage Foundation has been studying the matter and wonders, “Are we accepting all the international assistance in the maritime domain that we can, and is the Jones Act an impediment to that?”. . .

Some of the best clean up ships – owned by Belgian, Dutch and the Norwegian firms are NOT being used. Coast Guard Lt. Commander, Chris O’Neil, says that is because they do not meet “the operational requirements of the Unified Area Command.” One of those operational requirements is that vessels comply with the Jones Act.

"Yes, it does apply,” said ONeil,“ I have heard no discussions of waivers.”

Waivers to the Jones Act were granted by the administration of George W. Bush in the days following hurricane Katrina. And today, the Obama White House said waivers might again be considered. . . .

Senator Bill Nelson is hearing from the folks back home in Florida, where they want all the skimmer ships they can get. He sent a letter to Admiral Thad Allen today which read in part:
“Admiral, I believe the orange mousse of oil that is now in Florida’s waters is more than enough evidence that we need to take advantage of every appropriate global resource. Please advise as to whether we are taking full advantage of the offers of assistance from other countries.”. .

After 50 plus days of oil flowing freely into the gulf, the question could be asked: Why do effective and proven foreign clean up ships remain on the sidelines? Carafano believes it may have something to do with the Obama administration’s close relationship with labor unions.

“Cause this is a big thing for unions,” Carafano said. “The unions see it as … protecting jobs. They hate when the Jones Act gets waived, and they pound on politicians when they do that. So … are we giving in to unions and not doing everything we can, or is there some kind of impediment that we don't know about?

If the Obama Administration needs an example of what can happen when global assets are allowed to tackle a massive oil spill, they need look no further than Saudi Aramco’s clean up of a massive wartime spill off the Kuwaiti coast in 1991. Aramco summoned every available ship to assist in the cleanup. The company claims it recovered 900,000 barrels of oil in roughly three months. The industry views that effort as the gold standard in oil spill cleanups.

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