JBS turbines explode!
07-30-2010 | 08:32 PM
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07-30-2010 | 08:45 PM
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To have a sport - do what they do in Europe, less classes and more smaller boats = more boats period. They have heads up racing and people like that, 12 classes here with S's, P's, 6's, 2's & F's (you know what I'm saying here) all running around here is stupid!
I like some here started racing in the early/mid 80's and was there for when the US sport was at it's biggest when near 100 boats could be at a race - it was and still is possible.
If there were no unlimited class boats the veiwers would never know.
I think people/fans related to the 4 engine superboats more than a turbine boat, they made noise, had commonality with the "boat you drive to work everyday" ie NASCAR. A turbine boat is "look at that it's cool" a psiton boat is "hey, I could get those headers or blower for my boat too". Agree, though the costs keep these boats to a min and that hurts everyone else not help them.
In Europe they have more outboard classes, we need that here as well, you have cut the courses down to nothing but a short track oval anyway - race the right boats on them.
Really does anyone think people really want to see 40' cats racing on a 2 mile oval in the middle of a river - the only people that do are the people that own the boats themselves, their familes and some people that come out 1 time to watch and then say "this is boring" - oh I forgot there are 12 additonal people who come out every year because they have nothing else to do!
And all this bracket racing you have today in the lower classes is BS, this will never be NHRA and people do not go to the NHRA events for bracket cars they go for heads up. Bracket racing is more for the racers than the viewers and if what you've done here is for the racers than you got what you wanted - a sport that the public thinks is foolish and doesn't care to watch!
just my 2 cents
I like some here started racing in the early/mid 80's and was there for when the US sport was at it's biggest when near 100 boats could be at a race - it was and still is possible.
If there were no unlimited class boats the veiwers would never know.
I think people/fans related to the 4 engine superboats more than a turbine boat, they made noise, had commonality with the "boat you drive to work everyday" ie NASCAR. A turbine boat is "look at that it's cool" a psiton boat is "hey, I could get those headers or blower for my boat too". Agree, though the costs keep these boats to a min and that hurts everyone else not help them.
In Europe they have more outboard classes, we need that here as well, you have cut the courses down to nothing but a short track oval anyway - race the right boats on them.
Really does anyone think people really want to see 40' cats racing on a 2 mile oval in the middle of a river - the only people that do are the people that own the boats themselves, their familes and some people that come out 1 time to watch and then say "this is boring" - oh I forgot there are 12 additonal people who come out every year because they have nothing else to do!
And all this bracket racing you have today in the lower classes is BS, this will never be NHRA and people do not go to the NHRA events for bracket cars they go for heads up. Bracket racing is more for the racers than the viewers and if what you've done here is for the racers than you got what you wanted - a sport that the public thinks is foolish and doesn't care to watch!
just my 2 cents
07-30-2010 | 09:15 PM
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07-31-2010 | 11:27 AM
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07-31-2010 | 04:22 PM
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07-31-2010 | 04:41 PM
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07-31-2010 | 08:05 PM
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It is called "offshore" racing because it was meant to be raced offshore in deep water with navigation as an element of it. It's like the marine weather forecast - there is coastal, offshore and high seas, no one with half a brain could ever make the leap that most of today's races are "offshore" in any spirit of the words "offshore racing". If you think the sport has evolved so much than make a new name for it and drop the "offshore" call it "insight of land racing " - ok that's a joke!
You mention NASCAR, how has it changed? They always went round and round and they still do only the equipment has changed. Drag racing still goes in a straight line and endurance racing pretty much stayed the same - the equipment has changed not the foundations of where the sport was born. Offshore as you guys do it today has changed from the principles it was founded on it was created to be endurance racing.
Don't get me wrong and I will tell you I am jealous as hell of the boat and of you for running in it.
I just think they the big turbine boats in general are out of place and do no good in the overall formulation of a viable sport just like the old NHRA days when TV Tommy and a couple others were going to multi-engines cars. They had to be shut down in order to keep the sport alive, a few really cool cars would not ensure the sports survival it takes a large enough amount of cars running head to head that are similar (sort of) to dad's everyday driver to keep any motor sport alive, boats are no different. Reggie like him or hate him had done very well doing that as has Cigarette, Scarab, now Outerlimits, and of course Skater for cats with their outboard 24's and 32's changed Offshore racing, not the courses but the boats people used - those guys have kept the sport alive not 1 or 2 exhibition boats like you run.
Joe Gere
I'm going to make an adjustment to what I just said, Geico is an exhibition boat as far as I'm concerned (I'm no one) but they are different, they are a "show" people come just to see them. If they raced UIM 1 they would still be as big a draw and people come to see them because of their show, all the trucks, the cars, boats, girls, etc if they ran any other class they would do it with the same zest and have the same effect, it's not the turbine that makes them it's how they do it - my 2 cents.
It is called "offshore" racing because it was meant to be raced offshore in deep water with navigation as an element of it. It's like the marine weather forecast - there is coastal, offshore and high seas, no one with half a brain could ever make the leap that most of today's races are "offshore" in any spirit of the words "offshore racing". If you think the sport has evolved so much than make a new name for it and drop the "offshore" call it "insight of land racing " - ok that's a joke!
You mention NASCAR, how has it changed? They always went round and round and they still do only the equipment has changed. Drag racing still goes in a straight line and endurance racing pretty much stayed the same - the equipment has changed not the foundations of where the sport was born. Offshore as you guys do it today has changed from the principles it was founded on it was created to be endurance racing.
Don't get me wrong and I will tell you I am jealous as hell of the boat and of you for running in it.
I just think they the big turbine boats in general are out of place and do no good in the overall formulation of a viable sport just like the old NHRA days when TV Tommy and a couple others were going to multi-engines cars. They had to be shut down in order to keep the sport alive, a few really cool cars would not ensure the sports survival it takes a large enough amount of cars running head to head that are similar (sort of) to dad's everyday driver to keep any motor sport alive, boats are no different. Reggie like him or hate him had done very well doing that as has Cigarette, Scarab, now Outerlimits, and of course Skater for cats with their outboard 24's and 32's changed Offshore racing, not the courses but the boats people used - those guys have kept the sport alive not 1 or 2 exhibition boats like you run.
Joe Gere
I'm going to make an adjustment to what I just said, Geico is an exhibition boat as far as I'm concerned (I'm no one) but they are different, they are a "show" people come just to see them. If they raced UIM 1 they would still be as big a draw and people come to see them because of their show, all the trucks, the cars, boats, girls, etc if they ran any other class they would do it with the same zest and have the same effect, it's not the turbine that makes them it's how they do it - my 2 cents.
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