I think it's the world we live in today, we can hang people on the internet or many other types of media before they go to trial. Like it or not it is the way of the world today.

As far as JBS starting it - the truth will always comes out.

turbine marine was paid to provide engine service and inspections. NEVER done. there were parts that were LEFT out of the one engine!!! jeff paid for a spare engine that we have NEVER seen! their engines would not pass a fAA standard left alone a mil spec. and they are running them even harder.

geico left turbine marine for a good reason!

we left for even a better reason! john arruda does not have the ability to test and perform ANY tests or analysis on these engines! go visit a real faa turbine facility and see what goes into making a t53 pass test at 1400hp! it's a great place to start before you arbitrarily start making adjustments to the fuel control. turn a few things and the engine will make 2000hp and will be totally unreliable! any fuel control adjustments made on the dyno the control should come back off and be placed back on the flow bench to not only document but verify the changes so you can duplicate it on the other engine(s)!

please do tell us how happy turbine marine's latest victim feels about the current build!

jeff thought things would be different after they were out of the picture. how would you like it if john arruda turned your engines down to 92% the final day of the worlds after running the previous 2 races at 105%!!! this is fact and we have the data to prove it! the boat would only go 151 from the 190 it did the day prior! in-fact the boat full of fuel 400g, 4 people , ballast tank filled and engine water tanks full the boat has always gone over 180 with even the smallest props and shortest gear ratio!

or how about oops we left rags in the intake of aqua mania's engine!!! sorry bout that!

turbine marine has some great guys working for him! but he does not have the facility to build and test these engines properly. they are built to fail! they do not have the ability to build a stock commercial engine to pass a FAA test! the turbine marine BS is over! two of my family members are investigators for the FAA; one being my sister: stacey skrocki

jeff was told the only thing he ever had to do was change the oil and the engines would last for seasons of racing and poker running! turbine marine replaced 3 engines in the boat before it ever saw the water!

does turbine marine have the ability to run steady state on their dyno to run a complete test.=NO the cooling system will not support it

do they have the vibration equipment to run the full spectrum analysis. NO

do they have the ability to test fuel controls= NO

do they have the ability to test thermal couples=NO

do they have the ability to test oil pumps=NO

do they have the ability to test the n1 and n2 gear boxes=NO

do they have a bellmouth to run the engines at simulated conditions=NO

do they have a magna-flux and or Xray to see what the eye can not=NO

is any of the equipment they do have calibrated= NO

these parts that are used to build these engines are used and or do not have the paperwork to make them FAA worthy...SO, it's up to the person assembling them to make educated decisions on how they will preform. now how would one do that if they had no means of testing the components in the first place! guess and hope for the best. worst case is it blows up and someone has to write another check!

FAA spec? Are any of these Marine turbines FAA spec?

yes. our engines currently pass ALL of the testing standards to pass an FAA test. in fact they passed a HIGHER standard of testing using the 17-A1 specifications. vibrations, torque, power, speeds, temps, flows at every conceivable conditions should (MUST) pass! because if it does not your sure as **** not going to pass them when running them faster, producing more power, and making more heat!

to answer your question better...none that turbine marine builds!

i would be willing to bet geico's whispering turbines do.

jim at cappsco international corporation do!

another tidbit: if the bleedbands do not actuate at precisely the same time (every time) in a twin engine boat one engine is seeing a substantial different outputs!

so think about that; what do you think will happen coming out of a corner if there is a delta in the engines outputs====not good!

i can also say that even in a straight line having the bands different results in some strange things going on!

i can tell you everyone i know running these turbines have said at one time or another the boat did some strange things that could not be explained.

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QUESTION ABOUT TURBINE MARINE.

Do they claim to offer FAA certified power? And, I would guess that they are not charging the same as FAA certified would command if they don't. Just a curious question.

If it wasn't for Turbine Marine there would not be a turbine class. Turbine Marine has over the years has been the leader in turbines in the marine industry. Almost every successful turbine boat other then Jetset and maybe a a couple of others have come from Turbine marine. John developed many of the systems in these boats.

I feel what happens is it is very expensive to run turbines, especially in a race boat. It seems like the first few years while the teams are new to the turbine game they embrace Aruda. They need him. He is part of their team, He and his crew are at every event and always in the bilge at the races. He and his crew oversee everything.

Over time the owners and crews of these boats get educated. They get tired of paying for Turbine marine to do everything, especially when they have their own crew.
They learn how to do the maintenance and minor repairs themselves. They find turbine shops out there willing to do the work on the engines themselves. (will these turbine shops build a boat from scratch? I doubt it but may be wrong).

Truthfully this is the Prerogative of the one paying the bills.

I don't personally agree with all the bashing here. For the past few years Turbine marine obviously did a pretty good job.