A bank roll is great and certainly necessary to build these turbine powerboats (Haggin). So is the ability to actually do the work (Arruda). A lot of $ & talent. The point is I'm sure they needed each other.

they can be NEW parts and have no paper work which renders them obsolete for FAA use. MIL spec is something entirely different as well. many of these parts wear. wear will result in turbulence. this will increased vibration and temperatures. you can take the most absolute junk parts toss them together and that turbine (unlike a piston engine) will do whatever it takes to make the power the operator demands until it self destructs and or melts down!

i have seen a FAA engine fail test 5 times and the individual parts all pass spec but as a whole unit they do not meet the parameters to be air worthy. changing a nozzle combination will then allow the engine to pass.

when a hot section needs to be replaced in the field they go in with another one and vibration equipment. the turbine still must pass vibration, temperature, and other parameters to fly. and it's just doesn't bolt on there and they fly away.

our hot section gets changed and oops, sorry that didn't work.

carmen rigs the boats. VERY talented. kenen is the fab guy also VERY talented. and their turbine builder builds the engines with the parts that are given to him by arruda. i have seen a ton of talent at turbine marine. the only talen i have seen in arruda is the ability to talk a good game of bs. lol

These race marine turbines sound almost like a black art. Is there any warranty?

Sorry to re-hijack. I just caught my error. I drove, he throttled.

If you guys knew all this **** was going down (accident, trailer being used, not FAA certified etc), why didn't you take everything out Arruda's possession, take you're spare engine and get diagnostics done on the one that blew?

I would have yanked any possession of mine out of his hands within hours of knowing ANY of this stuff.
Also, and this may be my pure ignorance, but what is your position is JBS racing? And does Jeff know you're airing out all this dirty laundry?

they are not black art. the manuals are written at a 6th grade level.

i can't count how many times we have asked arruda for numbers! basic numbers. answers to why something failed. what was replaced. show us the parts. tell us how these engines are able to run in aircraft and generators for thousands of hours. what parameters do they run to accomplish this. and what numbers are we running. give us a matrix of trmps, vibs, speeds, and power. so we can at the very least have some idea that if we run them at x parameters they wil only last for one race, if that!

he-ll i would like to just know why or how did it take multiple engines to be installed in the jbs boat before it even got to the water!??? the first one was vibrating the ground!

i would care more about good accurate data and the ability for the engine to pass ALL STOCK specifications over a warranty any day.

The question still stands......Are these race marine turbines warranteed?

getting jeff's boat from arruda was more than just picking it up. that will all come out in the end too! lol

the engine that failed had a very extensive failure analysis completed. the engines that are in there now run amazing!

and yes jeff knows what i am saying here...just the FACTS.

fact is i have the boat and i will be at skater with it tomorrow with it!

hey, i am here only talking about the facts.

what jeff and arruda agreed on for race support and cost is between them.

my "position" is figure out why and stop the bleeding.