What Are Main Differences? Cig, Nor Outer...
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NOW THATS A BIG RACE what 4 in that class, what happen the 1st thought a fountain/ol finish where were they in the 90s now that opa is running p or 400 class theres two cigs with blowers 38fters in p4 running against 28 to 30 single vees cause in 300 class a 39 sutphen is killing again since the lids won't let him run in sv old 200 class and next yr there maybe a 31sutphen running 400 and a saber 28 looking to be 1 2
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Dons marketing again gee that famous black /white boat with the cig name wasn't even a cig hahaha boy talk about penis enveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee haha. Don was very smart saw there was money big money in these new boats and was the chef that brought in talent to make these boats back then and then it was re splashed by ever new owner of the Co. Skip was the latest and is making hugh money by building old school tech no ovens there and charging what OL does for there new high tech. and then theres RICHIE same old school as cig BUT he has been there since day one so you have the same talent going into every sutphen no steps need just a design that works for 1/2 the money. boy I'm on a roll to night can't wait for the chit to fly my way all in fun.
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please we laugh at cig s racing in the 90s there one or two a yellow 42 rev buck it that got lapped so much in key west it was a joke and there was maybe one other 80 82 boat mightmare racing in d Ithink well it look good but they haven't won or raced every year since new, they were gone in the 90s came back and won one f2 lucky champ and not much more. there a nice boat if you like to swim going into turns on hot days. cigs a name DON MARKETED WELL and was about the last he worked on yes he had the usa cats 39/27 vees but he pushed cig name more than anyone owner. I've been in a nuff and on OLs and the 37 single step ol was a nice fast boat in 94 to 2000 and AT is one hell of a boat been in them too and I am sorry theres not a big diff between the two 37s and a 38tg you can pay for the name 600gs for a cig or buy a AT for 1/2 that will go anywhere a cig will go. theres been other posts and threads on northeast about whats up with cig guys someone buys a 20yr old boat and thinks it better than anythink else man. you want a rough water boat that won more races than a cig did inthe 70s/80s/90s call RICHIE SUTPHEN he will build you a new 39/40 with no steps to spin out on less money and faster if you want a clown inteior and paint job theres guys he can get. sutphen racing had to move race bodies last two years from one group cause they changed the class from p2 to sv to push out the sut cause it wasn't a full race boat it had a back seat and not a lid like all the other boats in p2 cause he kicked there azzs, so he goes to the other body and wins and at keywest the carpet bagger owner pushed him up a class a production boat running cats. NOW THERES A LEGEND SUTPHEN BOATS the real king of offshore. so please you cig guys get over it your not # 1 and have not been since 1970 what ever there a nice boat you pay for the name you want high tech buy a OUTERLIMITS or a 46 SKATER and be KING OF ALL. ps cig guys its all in fun hell I only owned a lil 650hp baja for 20yrs but loved kicken cig ass on cape cod back in the 90s ahh the looks on the faces coarse it was on days with 2 to 3s and even 4s once in a while. there was a friend who raced apba for yrs who was shocked about the lil boat in 3 to 4s one afternoon. so dude the ATs ride every well in any water had a lot of runs on a 33 running in the 90s that boat ran straight no chine walk even hitting wakes turned well too. lots of room in the 37 and 33 ATs theres 2 09 and 08 under 200 in the class, but sutphen is alpha dog of rough water vees non step, outerlimits its the skater of vees.
BTW I don't think you ever answered the question about AT's racing; and BTW the POS pleasure Cig beat a new MTI canopy race boat in the Bimini run
And Pyburn's Skater
Deal with it
I look forward to the day you bring your Baja down to run Bimini.
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[QUOTE=Jassman;3217035]anyone can comment on anything.. or take a captains comment's on a boat to be correct or false, who's to say he even knew how to drive that boat correctly.QUOTE]
Who's to say he didn't? There's an equal chance he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about. Just sayin'.
Who's to say he didn't? There's an equal chance he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about. Just sayin'.
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I received a PM asking what makes the hull ocean worthy and strong since the picture I posted only showed the fluff.
I found it a good question. And I don't get asked it often enough. The picture on the left is what is under the liner and in the nose of the boat. The one of the right is the engine bay.
Sorry it took a while to locate a picture.
I found it a good question. And I don't get asked it often enough. The picture on the left is what is under the liner and in the nose of the boat. The one of the right is the engine bay.
Sorry it took a while to locate a picture.
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That is what it is all about. Always chasing the legend and trying to beat it any way you can. Ovens are for cookies.
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Ok we get it; you don't like Cigs you think Sutphen is the best and you run a Baja and kick major azz congrats to you and i think this thread has now unequivocally proven that the major difference between the brands is that everyone uses Cig as a benchmark...CIG ENVY...
BTW I don't think you ever answered the question about AT's racing; and BTW the POS pleasure Cig beat a new MTI canopy race boat in the Bimini run
And Pyburn's Skater
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha h
Deal with it
I look forward to the day you bring your Baja down to run Bimini.
BTW I don't think you ever answered the question about AT's racing; and BTW the POS pleasure Cig beat a new MTI canopy race boat in the Bimini run
And Pyburn's Skater
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha h
Deal with it
I look forward to the day you bring your Baja down to run Bimini.
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