Anyone Else Find T2x Bitter,,,,,
12-16-2010 | 07:37 AM
#92
Allergic to Nonsense
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,007
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From: Granite Quarry, NC
Oy.......... I just saw this for the first time and this is truly a "thread about nothing"...
1 Thank you to all the supporters, I appreciate the thoughtfulness and kind words.
2. To the rest of you, it's a free country and you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Today, if someone is not "politically correct", it is common to create negative characterizations and try to muffle the "offender". In this case I am proud to be that guy....and have no intention of changing my positions. I created the T2x character/screen name in 2001 because I read the OSO website as a visitor and realized that it was lacking something. The site seemed to deal only in current hulls and impressions that were as much a product of boat companies' publicity as they were factual. Very few knew the history of the vee hull, or the cat for that matter and I attempted to fill in some gaps. In doing that I also punctured some misconceptions and sacred cows and the fun began. One of my main pet peeves has always been self promotion for its own sake. I watched egos destroy offshore racing, and have listened to too many chest thumping performance boat owners brag on this or that mediocre hull and or engine with no true knowledge of its construction, safety, handling, or basic speed fundamentals. There will always be a loud minority who can't see past a paint job or the latest rumored "best thing"...and I have tried to provide a counter point. To me products should stand or fall on their own merits rather than as the result of a big marketing budget. Over the years any number of boat companies have been given positive coverage in direct proportion to the ad space they purchased, which in some cases covered over flaws in design and construction or outright nonsense in their claims of "innovation". A truly historical perspective debunks a lot of this and that is what I , along with a growing number of other older enthusiasts with knowledge at least as broad as mine, have tried to provide. Inevitably these efforts have put me in the crosshairs of loyalists to this or that boat company, racing organization, or personality (or all of the above). If I state that your boat isn't really perfect or even as wonderful as its maker claims it is, I have impugned a cash investment that you made....and I get that. If I tell you that racing was far better in the 80's than it is today and you race today, I get that you take this personally. Finally if I point out that some position that a poster takes on a point that he has no real knowledge about is a bit off key, I may make some enemies.
For the record I am not the creator of the best racing model in history, not the creator of revolutionary hulls, not the fastest racer who ever lived, and certainly not the greatest narrator in broadcasting history...........I simply nudged the bar in those arenas, hopefully raising it a bit as I passed through, and could probably do it again if I feel the urge. I have been at this since the late 50's, seen just about everything, and heard the rest. The greatest feats that I have witnessed have been on the race course, not in an ad agency's layout room. Real people have risked and, in some cases, lost their lives so that the marine industry could move forward. I knew and cared about some of those people deeply. Out of respect for them and what they accomplished I can't stand idly by and watch others lay claim to their improvements or, worse, ignore that they ever existed.
To sum it up...... hate me if you like....but don't ever question my honesty or intentions.
Now go find something else to focus on.
T2x
1 Thank you to all the supporters, I appreciate the thoughtfulness and kind words.
2. To the rest of you, it's a free country and you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Today, if someone is not "politically correct", it is common to create negative characterizations and try to muffle the "offender". In this case I am proud to be that guy....and have no intention of changing my positions. I created the T2x character/screen name in 2001 because I read the OSO website as a visitor and realized that it was lacking something. The site seemed to deal only in current hulls and impressions that were as much a product of boat companies' publicity as they were factual. Very few knew the history of the vee hull, or the cat for that matter and I attempted to fill in some gaps. In doing that I also punctured some misconceptions and sacred cows and the fun began. One of my main pet peeves has always been self promotion for its own sake. I watched egos destroy offshore racing, and have listened to too many chest thumping performance boat owners brag on this or that mediocre hull and or engine with no true knowledge of its construction, safety, handling, or basic speed fundamentals. There will always be a loud minority who can't see past a paint job or the latest rumored "best thing"...and I have tried to provide a counter point. To me products should stand or fall on their own merits rather than as the result of a big marketing budget. Over the years any number of boat companies have been given positive coverage in direct proportion to the ad space they purchased, which in some cases covered over flaws in design and construction or outright nonsense in their claims of "innovation". A truly historical perspective debunks a lot of this and that is what I , along with a growing number of other older enthusiasts with knowledge at least as broad as mine, have tried to provide. Inevitably these efforts have put me in the crosshairs of loyalists to this or that boat company, racing organization, or personality (or all of the above). If I state that your boat isn't really perfect or even as wonderful as its maker claims it is, I have impugned a cash investment that you made....and I get that. If I tell you that racing was far better in the 80's than it is today and you race today, I get that you take this personally. Finally if I point out that some position that a poster takes on a point that he has no real knowledge about is a bit off key, I may make some enemies.
For the record I am not the creator of the best racing model in history, not the creator of revolutionary hulls, not the fastest racer who ever lived, and certainly not the greatest narrator in broadcasting history...........I simply nudged the bar in those arenas, hopefully raising it a bit as I passed through, and could probably do it again if I feel the urge. I have been at this since the late 50's, seen just about everything, and heard the rest. The greatest feats that I have witnessed have been on the race course, not in an ad agency's layout room. Real people have risked and, in some cases, lost their lives so that the marine industry could move forward. I knew and cared about some of those people deeply. Out of respect for them and what they accomplished I can't stand idly by and watch others lay claim to their improvements or, worse, ignore that they ever existed.
To sum it up...... hate me if you like....but don't ever question my honesty or intentions.
Now go find something else to focus on.
T2x
Last edited by T2x; 12-16-2010 at 09:39 AM.
12-16-2010 | 07:40 AM
#93
Banned
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,004
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From: Boca/Brentwood
Oy.......... I just saw this for the first time and this is truly a "thread about nothing"...
1 Thank you to all the supporters, I appreciate the thoughtfulness and kind words.
2. To the rest of you, it's a free country and you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Today, if someone is not "politically correct", it is common to create negative characterizations and try to muffle the "offender". In this case I am proud to be that guy....and have no intention of changing my positions. I created the T2x character/screen name in 2001 because I read the OSO website as a visitor and realized that it was lacking something. The site seemed to deal only in current hulls and impressions that were as much a product of boat companies' publicity as they were factual. Very few knew the history of the vee hull, or the cat for that matter and I attempted to fill in some gaps. In doing that I also punctured some misconceptions and sacred cows and the fun began. One of my main pet peeves has always been self promotion for its own sake. I watched egos destroy offshore racing, and have listened to too many chest thumping performance boat owners brag on this or that mediocre hull and or engine with no true knowledge of its construction, safety, handling, or basic speed fundamentals. There will always be a loud minority who can't see past a paint job or the latest rumored "best thing"...and I have tried to provide a counter point. To me products should stand or fall on their own merits rather than as the result of a big marketing budget. Over the years any number of boat companies have been given positive coverage in direct proportion to the ad space they purchased, which in some cases covered over flaws in design and construction or outright nonsense in their claims of "innovation". A truly historical perspective debunks a lot of this and that is what I , along with a growing number of other older enthusiasts with knowledge at least as broad as mine, have tried to provide. Inevitably these efforts have put me in the crosshairs of loyalists to this or that boat company, racing organization, or personality (or all of the above). If I state that your boat isn't really perfect or even as wonderful as its maker claims it is, I have impuned a cash investment that you made....and I get that. If I tell you that racing was far better in the 80's than it is today and you race today, I get that you take this personally. Finally if I point out that some position that a poster takes on a point that he has no real knowledge about is a bit off key, I may make some enemies.
For the record I am not the creator of the best racing model in history, not the creator of revolutionary hulls, not the fastest racer who ever lived, and certainly not the greatest narrator in broadcasting history...........I simply nudged the bar in those arenas, hopefully raising it a bit as I passed through, and could probably do it again if I feel the urge. I have been at this since the late 50's, seen just about everything, and heard the rest. The greatest feats that I have witnessed have been on the race course, not in an ad agency's layout room. Real people have risked and, in some cases, lost their lives so that the marine industry could move forward. I knew and cared about some of those people deeply. Out of respect for them and what they accomplished I can't stand idly by and watch others lay claim to their improvements or, worse, ignore that they ever existed.
To sum it up...... hate me if you like....but don't ever question my honesty or intentions.
Now go find something else to focus on.
T2x
1 Thank you to all the supporters, I appreciate the thoughtfulness and kind words.
2. To the rest of you, it's a free country and you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Today, if someone is not "politically correct", it is common to create negative characterizations and try to muffle the "offender". In this case I am proud to be that guy....and have no intention of changing my positions. I created the T2x character/screen name in 2001 because I read the OSO website as a visitor and realized that it was lacking something. The site seemed to deal only in current hulls and impressions that were as much a product of boat companies' publicity as they were factual. Very few knew the history of the vee hull, or the cat for that matter and I attempted to fill in some gaps. In doing that I also punctured some misconceptions and sacred cows and the fun began. One of my main pet peeves has always been self promotion for its own sake. I watched egos destroy offshore racing, and have listened to too many chest thumping performance boat owners brag on this or that mediocre hull and or engine with no true knowledge of its construction, safety, handling, or basic speed fundamentals. There will always be a loud minority who can't see past a paint job or the latest rumored "best thing"...and I have tried to provide a counter point. To me products should stand or fall on their own merits rather than as the result of a big marketing budget. Over the years any number of boat companies have been given positive coverage in direct proportion to the ad space they purchased, which in some cases covered over flaws in design and construction or outright nonsense in their claims of "innovation". A truly historical perspective debunks a lot of this and that is what I , along with a growing number of other older enthusiasts with knowledge at least as broad as mine, have tried to provide. Inevitably these efforts have put me in the crosshairs of loyalists to this or that boat company, racing organization, or personality (or all of the above). If I state that your boat isn't really perfect or even as wonderful as its maker claims it is, I have impuned a cash investment that you made....and I get that. If I tell you that racing was far better in the 80's than it is today and you race today, I get that you take this personally. Finally if I point out that some position that a poster takes on a point that he has no real knowledge about is a bit off key, I may make some enemies.
For the record I am not the creator of the best racing model in history, not the creator of revolutionary hulls, not the fastest racer who ever lived, and certainly not the greatest narrator in broadcasting history...........I simply nudged the bar in those arenas, hopefully raising it a bit as I passed through, and could probably do it again if I feel the urge. I have been at this since the late 50's, seen just about everything, and heard the rest. The greatest feats that I have witnessed have been on the race course, not in an ad agency's layout room. Real people have risked and, in some cases, lost their lives so that the marine industry could move forward. I knew and cared about some of those people deeply. Out of respect for them and what they accomplished I can't stand idly by and watch others lay claim to their improvements or, worse, ignore that they ever existed.
To sum it up...... hate me if you like....but don't ever question my honesty or intentions.
Now go find something else to focus on.
T2x
1st time you saw it your bitter
12-16-2010 | 07:43 AM
#95
Allergic to Nonsense
Joined: Aug 2001
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Likes: 21
From: Granite Quarry, NC
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12-16-2010 | 07:51 AM
#98
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Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,004
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From: Boca/Brentwood
1st time you saw ttread please
Happy Holidays to all even non Fountain owners
12-16-2010 | 07:58 AM
#100
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Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,305
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From: Naples, Maine
It is weird how this thread has bounced from loving/hating T2x and "the Reg". I enjoy bashing Rich as much as the next guy, maybe more, but at the OFF meeting, the first guy I gave a big hug was Rich. It always amazed me that a guy with absolutely NO talent could rise to a position of being mocked and pilloried by his peers.
As far a Reg, I think I summed it up several years ago when I said "Reggies lone unachieved goal is to die in his own arms".......................
As far a Reg, I think I summed it up several years ago when I said "Reggies lone unachieved goal is to die in his own arms".......................
Brownie, ya kill me!Kurt
