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TahoeRick 12-30-2010 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=mikesufka;3285326]One quick little story which means nothing, but...

Was running flat out in my Spectre 30/Twin 300 Merc combo a few years ago. 97mph.

The right motor's driveshaft broke.

Nothing happened except the water pressure horn went off and the boat slowed down.

And I spent $$$$ getting it fixed.

I think "cats" are fantastic.

Mike[/QUOT

Mike, your response and the other responses I have read on this forum are getting better and better! I was getting worried....!

Expensive Date 12-30-2010 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by TahoeRick (Post 3285696)
"How you setup your cat before you go into a turn makes a big difference, not just speed". Please elaborate! If I sit here and think about this statement, my first reaction is that in my very limited experience the cat I have really resists turning unless I am up to plane speed which I think is about 30 or 35 mph. Maybe a little more at Tahoe. This is why I need a lot of seat time to see just how this thing turns and behaves under lots of various conditions. I watched the right sponson dip downward when turning left and vice versa. Guess I need to find out how much this happens at slow speeds at more and more truning angles. This will happen as soon as the weather gets warmer, but I am hopefull some of you good folks here on the OSO forum and help me with your insights.

Rick

I have no cat experience so I can't help you,and while there are many knowledgeable people on this board you are not going to learn the theroy of how your hull operates here.You really need to talk to a guy like Tres or some one who can teach you.You need to understand why the boat does this "not do this when it does this."

TahoeRick 12-30-2010 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 3285336)
I respectfully disagree:drink:

The operational skill to operate a cat in the rough is far greater
then a vee. Cats will actually fly across the waves. This is where there will be a narrower margin in operating it safely. A vee will plow through the rough at a lower speed lending itself to a bigger margin for safety.


Take two top throttle men put one in a 47 vee
the other in a 46 Cat and run them side by side the cat
will be faster.

Your remark here makes sense when I compare what you say and what the previous owner told me. He has pictures all over the internet of him jumping huge swells in this Red Cat at high speed off the Callif coast - Newport Beach. He told me that this boat is inherently safe and that it is much like riding a dirt bike - you want to land on the huge 3 ft k-tabs on the back of the boat and let off the throttle when in the air. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't plan on any thing like this, but it was interesting what he told me. He said he could drive this boat in the dark by the feel of it - of course, he owned it for 15 years.

TahoeRick 12-30-2010 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by BowenCT (Post 3285363)
That's an interesting perspective. Can't say I have ever heard that before.

This was a direct quote from an insurance agent and almost an exact quote from a boat dealer who told me he could sell me a cat or a V but he highly recommended that I don't buy the performance Cat.....

FREEDOM US1 12-30-2010 11:57 AM

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TahoeRick 12-30-2010 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow (Post 3285389)
I have owned ten cats over the years. I have blown engines, drives, transmission and even lost props. In every instance the boat simply slowed down. The worst was a blown number six at 150 mph, again slowed down. Made one heck of a noise and grinding. A skilled cat driver can run faster in rough water than a v hull. Many cats will lean into the turns slightly such as Skater and MTI.

Brad, your comment here is the strongest endorsement I have received for my purchase! Thanks!!! I really didn't want to drive this thing with the fear that something would go wrong..... Really puts a bummer on the whole boating experience.

Rick

TahoeRick 12-30-2010 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by FREEDOM US1 (Post 3285465)
Same here!! No big deal!! Higher speeds and hitting a wave that is bigger then most will be the one thing he will need to look out for, next thing you know is oh Chit!! I hope this thing lands good!!!

This is why I need lots of play time at lower speeds to get used to this boat.

Even on my one outing, I had it up to about 70-80 in at least 3 ft chop, maybe a little more - middle of Lake Tahoe - extremely smooth ride with the feeling of a little bab, bab, bab of the wave tops from my seat and through my feet, and twice I could tell the boat came out of the water. No drama, NOTHING. Completely level and stable. Just the realization that I made a little jump.

Rick

TahoeRick 12-30-2010 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3285644)
I barrel rolled a warlock 25 cat at 80 mph. Did no damage at all to the boat. Had it flipped right side up and took her to the shop, got the motor running and back on the lake that day. Awesome boat. driver error.

Just how did you manage to do this??? I really want to know so I can hopefully learn from your mistake. Something like this can hurt people or worse.

TahoeRick 12-30-2010 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Expensive Date (Post 3285704)
I have no cat experience so I can't help you,and while there are many knowledgeable people on this board you are not going to learn the theroy of how your hull operates here.You really need to talk to a guy like Tres or some one who can teach you.You need to understand why the boat does this "not do this when it does this."

I will google the Tres Martin class and see what it entails. Thanks!

Rick

bcschoe 12-30-2010 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by TahoeRick (Post 3285723)
I will google the Tres Martin class and see what it entails. Thanks!

Rick

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