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larslindroth 08-06-2011 10:44 PM

Super Hero 38 test mule?
 
Found this white Super Hero that supposedly Michel of Intrepid previously owned. This is maybe the test mule boat from the early days of Super Hero?

http://www.caribbeanyachtingbj.com/i...hero3801lg.jpg

Randy Nielsen 08-06-2011 11:49 PM

I have a friend with a 90 34ft super hawaii that needs to sell it pm me if interested

HabanaJoe 08-07-2011 01:09 PM

That sure looks like one of the Buzzi 38's? Which one is it????

To me it does not look like the first pleasure one with the 300 Cummins in it, something looks different, could it have been built by Intrepid and not Buzzi???? This boat was after my time I'm guessing either way I'd give my left nut for that boat - I have 3 kids and dog now so the nut is just taking up space away no big loss :lolhit:

302Sport 08-17-2011 04:07 PM

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can anyone give me some insight into these drives???

HabanaJoe 08-17-2011 08:47 PM

What do you want to know, they are Buzzi drives?

olli 08-18-2011 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 3471679)
Found this white Super Hero that supposedly Michel of Intrepid previously owned. This is maybe the test mule boat from the early days of Super Hero?

http://www.caribbeanyachtingbj.com/i...hero3801lg.jpg

Thank you for posting that one. I think the one above came from Italy because I doubt that SH/Intrepid made a mold and then made another one for this:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/intrepid.jpg

olli 08-18-2011 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3481520)
can anyone give me some insight into these drives???

http://www.itec.hr/ZFTrimax_Products.htm

Those drives are still available for boats that do not have the bustle.

Where have you taken those pics? Do you have some of that boat from other angles?
I wonder how many were made of those 39' and 46':
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocr4p-DnpYc[/YOUTUBE]

302Sport 08-18-2011 07:52 AM

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are any of those old step bottom race boats for sale today and what are they worth??? how much would it cost to put that third drive back on?? is there any old diesel power available, say 650hp, for reasonable money??

HabanaJoe 08-18-2011 09:16 AM

olli - that video is great - nice find! They are still very nice looking boats in my opinion, real wave crushers (I'll be careful not to offend the Tribe and say eqaul to an Apache 47):drink:

302 -
- no idea what is for sale
- doubt you would find 1 of those drives used and what they cost new???
- as far as diesels go, old diesels are old diesels - the Seateks were salt water cooled with lots of aluminium parts so if one was sitting for years rest assured you're buying some (lots?) parts for it. Second, 650hp of old mechinical fuel injection, fixed timing diesel engine is going to be an old smoking engine with a very bad power curve. I would bet a new 600hp Cummins C would run circles around an old 650 SeaTek, the only advantge the SeaTek has is it revs higher otherwise the Cummins would be superior. Get the bigger block Cummins (what was call an L-10 back in the day) you have more weight but god awful amounts of power and it'll go like hell.

My advice and what I would do, if I could afford it was update a boat like that with nice new electronic diesels and go run it for a couple thousand hours while other rebuild their gas engines!

note - if you found 3 - 380hp Cummins B's for sale used that boat would run good with them if you had the right gears, even 3 - 330's would work - not super fast but run forever and ever???

302Sport 08-18-2011 10:11 AM

What speeds would you predict for that boat with the different HP you are talking??? Would it be better to go with two big diesels instead of three smaller ones??

HabanaJoe 08-18-2011 10:59 AM

My 2 cents:

You have 2 drives already that are set far enough for twins, why add the weight of a third?

Like I said the newer engines are soooo much better and with their electronics you can apply more of the Hp that is available without having to give up so much mid-range cruising ability.

That boat with twin 600hp Seateks ran about 70 mph almost 20 years ago without 2 speed gears, drop in 600hp Cummins C's and some 1:1 or slight OD gears and you'll do the same, 2 speeds maybe a few more 75?

The problem with any of this is, if they gave you the boat free your putting $100,000 plus of engine and tranny in a boat that's when done you won't sell for half that probably.

Find 380hp B's, I'm betting around 60-65 mph for one reason, you've taken out a good amount of weight probably 1,000 lbs between the lighter engines and tranny. Get some tunner chips for the B's because they are out there and you can get 425-450 out of them.

These are all guesses, is that the 46' or 43'?

302Sport 08-18-2011 11:22 AM

What if I wanted 1000hp diesels in there??? Then what route should be taken?? :eek:

HabanaJoe 08-18-2011 06:09 PM

buy the Seatek race engines and do "extensive" maintenance every 25-50 hrs?

Look there is nothing stock that is 1,000 hp that will fit in there, that is light weight. Whatever you start with you are going to have to do modifications to and then you are no better than the Seatek (that is not a knock on them, by like any other performance engines they do not last long).

The old 3 SeaTeks in there weighted about 1,650lb each plus tranny, maybe 300lb on the light side so a full 2,000lb each engine or 6,000lbs for say 2,000 Hp.

QSM 11's are 2,700lbs for 700hp so almost the same weight for 25% less Hp - you are going backwards.

C-18 Cats 1,000 hp and 4,000 lbs each, that's going to sink the boat:eek:

C-15's are 850 hp and 3,300 lbs each.

Your best bet is get the Cummins C's 600hp and 2,000 lbs and if you could get someone to remap it, it will run 800hp with ease.

Back to my question, is that the 46' or smaller, I think a 46'?

olli 11-17-2012 10:14 PM

Looking for more info on these:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...li5400/sh1.jpg http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...li5400/sh2.jpg

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egmA6TFd0bw&feature=player_embedded#![/YOUTUBE]

Randy Nielsen 11-17-2012 10:57 PM

Hi olli, I started this thread to find out more info about a boat my buddy has for sale. Habana Joe,& Peyton, had quite a bit of info as you have read in this thread hope ya find what your looking for. Randy

seafordguy 11-17-2012 11:09 PM

Pretty cool thread. I read the entire thing because that boat posted mid-way through (lead sled) is local so I figured I'd read up on the brand. Cool read.

olli 11-19-2012 04:27 PM

Looks like a shorter version of the one above:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...16-1-Kopie.png

http://www.yachtworld.de/core/listin...1579&noOfPic=1

Bahamasalvage 12-13-2012 04:30 PM

I have one of thees boat for sale, it is the one with the Buzzi Drives and 300 Cummings if you are interested , Gary 22 359 5110 or [email protected]



Originally Posted by HabanaJoe (Post 3471948)
That sure looks like one of the Buzzi 38's? Which one is it????

To me it does not look like the first pleasure one with the 300 Cummins in it, something looks different, could it have been built by Intrepid and not Buzzi???? This boat was after my time I'm guessing either way I'd give my left nut for that boat - I have 3 kids and dog now so the nut is just taking up space away no big loss :lolhit:


HabanaJoe 12-13-2012 06:29 PM

Bahamasalvge - as muc h as I want to i just can't no new boat in my future yet, I'll keep your email and if things change you'll hear from me.

ps if you have some pics I would like to see them for old time sake if you could my email is [email protected]

Thank you!


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