Where did the "SBI Cheating" go?
 

This morning this thread was started. Where did it go?

Probabaly the guy had second thoughts..........I read it last night (about 1:30 PST). I'm sure he didn't want any problems.

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the starter may have deleted it..Steve David gave a pretty good response in the racers area, and the guy apologized...

Thanks guys. I thought I was going crazy, looked for it, but not there.
Philip

I can't find Steve David's response. Can someone post a link?

Dave,

Looks like it was deleted with the entire thread..

It was deleted at the request of the person who started the post.

Sometime posts can just go in the wrong direction and we have to self moderate so things don't get too out of hand. I guess this one may have started doing so. I just wish when someone does delete a post, that they save a copy of it for reference if someone had a question about something in particuliar.

Darn and that thread was just starting to get good even if it was off the initial post subject matter. I thought Jennifer had a great idea about having Jeff at freeze frame set up a pay per view of the Campbell/Priestly accident. Heck he could have made more money selling that 60 second footage at the Skaterfest then he makes selling the whole SBI race series all year long. It definitely belongs in the Greatest Blunders by an experienced T-man of all time category. You know the same guy who got beat out by Betty Cook (how long ago did she pass away?) and took dead last in the Legends of Offshore poll last year. I will say that I was reading US magazine and their was Priestly smiling away with his Switlik on talking about how he avoided flipping the boat. I guess their is some truth to the addage sensational news is better than no news at all.

NIT2WIN: Funny how Plumbgirl never replied to us when we confronted her with the trueth!!! I tell ya if is so funny how people can put spins on thing. Let me see. When I realized that we were going to hit Pier57 I made a phone call to God and asked him to make a temporary alteration in the gravitational pull on our boat so that we would not flip :D:D

Jon

So you heard that one too huh? LOL

The best is Campbell going around telling everyone that the angle of the camera from the video footage does not accurately reflect what actually happened.:rolleyes:

Anyone know how many boats were at Ft. Myers?

Just got off the phone with my bookie. Vegas is laying 200 to 1 odds that we will not see the accident from the SBI Miami race on OLN this Saturday. Any takers?

I'm in with a "fitty" :D :D

I saw that tape at skaterfest too ! WOW ! THere is NO thought involved there . The picture is worth 10,000 words !:eek:

NIT2WIT
I like essay money, pass on your bookies number

If you fly to OSO headquarters you can see the DVD version live.

BETTER YET How about you OSO guys putting that Miami accident on your MOVIES section of the website????

I second that - put it up for all to see.

DaveP

Looks like there were 23 boats that showed up to race in Ft. Myers on Sunday.

I think the guys login name was omcdeal. It was pretty ballsy thread. To bad it got axed it would have been a good one!

Hey Troutly,
What challenge?

the teardown to see if the motor was leagal challenge--i would rather see the motors pulled and dynoed---i have heard alot of hp500 motors--those sound a little different---

Hey JFM311,
Thanks for the info I agree. Send them to CRE!

We would love to post movies of the races but the rights belong to SBI and without their permission we can not post.

Well then, get on the horn and get it done. :D

Troutly,
You are right it was a very sporting challenge but who was gonna be the mediator? Someone that is impartial to both sides of the coin. I guess money talks and BULL**** walks.:cool: Mr. Threadstarter did not want to play.

Here is an Excerpt from the SBI Rule book ? Now 2 of these Engines with parameters Specked out below are going to push an 11-12 Meter Vee hull @100 MPH LMAO Now that my friend requires a giant leap of Imagination Using only Line 11 of 13.8.2 ! A casual glance at the Boats prop size Verses the top Speed Should give a “Hint” oops better remark the props.



MANUFACTURERS CLASS II
1. Monohull only with a minimum overall length of 30’
2. Twin engine configuration (staggered engine installation is permitted)
13.8.2 COMPETITION ENGINE CRITERIA
1. Engine must be the same specifications of a MerCruiser 502 CID / 500 HP and MerCruiser
HP500 EFI Bravo Stern Drive is the basis for F1and F2 class, also BMAX and IMCO Drives
are acceptable.
2. The complete engine package must remain as originally produced by the Manufacturer.
3. All engine rebuilds must be preformed using the procedures and original equipment parts
designed for the HP500 as outlined in the MerCruiser service manual part number 90-
848294 and 90-840283.
4. Updating and backdating is not allowed.
5. Maximum allowed piston diameter is .030” over original piston diameter. In this case
maximum displacement can not exceed 509 CID.
6. All factory ground surfaces must remain as originally produced with no alterations.
7. All Electronic Control Modules (ECM) must remain original with NO modifications. The ECM
will control all functions of the HP500 EFI engine.
8. Maximum compression ratio is 8.9:1.
9. Exhaust system will be Mercury Bravo or TRS style. All water must enter the exhaust
stream more than 1.5” from the outlet end pipe.
10. Only the originally produced gear ratios will be allowed.
11. Maximum allowable RPM will be 5400rpm for the HP500 engine. The limiter must be
located in the engine compartment.
12. All props must be produced from a casting. No billet or forged props are allowed.
13. The Mercury ITS drives will be allowed for the racing year 2002 as originally manufactured
and supplied with NO changes. No other lower units will be allowed with this drive except
the one offered as standard equipment. No speed master drives will be allowed.
13.8.3 GENERAL COMPETITION GUIDELINES
MANUFACTURERS CLASS I

:p

How many people here have been told by a few SBI F-2 racers (within the last 12-18 months & don't mention names) that they needed to "bump up their engines" to even try and stay close to the "cheaters" in F-2? I know quite a few and no it is not "hear say." It came from the horses mouths.

I even know of a local 'L' class boat that got walked by one of the F-2 boats and this "L" class boat has 750hp a side!

Hey Guys I am just joking around kind of parlaying the obvious,whatever it takes to stay competive. F2 is a tough class!!

:)

I'm sure OSO would "get it done" if we all paid membership fees so that OSO could pay the licensing fee to SBI for the footage of the 9021OOHHHsh#t!

Hey Steve 1,
Thanks for the info on SBI rules:D The main question is after each race who is inforcing these rules written by the sanctioning body? Are they making sure that the top 3 finishing boats in the class are running by the rules stated in there rule book? :confused:

SUNSEEKER

I agree with you in regards to any film footage of the SBI race. I'm sure that John owns the rights to the television show that is edited by Diamond P and shown on OLN but I would think that Jeff and John C. have some sort of agreement giving them both rights to any film footage shot by Freeze Frame. Now if Jeff has the right to sell his version to the general public then why wouldn't someone have the right to view it in a public venue? One problem I might see is if OSO made this a pay per view event and profited from it then I could see SBI stepping in and crying fowl taking the position that OSO was monetarily benefiting from a race that is licensed to SBI. Keep it free I'm sure John wouldn't mind the exposure and if he did you would truly have to wonder why?

Goodfella and Steve 1, I could use some input on the "WTF is up with F2" thread.

...I guess we SkaterFest'ers are of the luck few to view the tape?? :D

:cool:

Why start now?:p :D

Skaterfest had the tape? :confused: No, I think that was someone's personal video who offered to show it...;) ;)

Sharkey, Good Answer, that was a personal tape,, But many of us did see the footage, as a matter of fact, i think the rewind button needs a tune up, too many rewinds. The clip is wild, the JP boat never turned, they went from the inside of the turn, straight thru the corner, just missed a few other boats and exited the turn right into the side of DW's boat. Untill you see the actual hit, and the force involved, enough to spin DW's boat around you think it was in slow motion. If I was JP I would buy up every copy and burn them.

Are you telling me that this "footage" won't pop up on a site somewhere for us to view..Com on already...some one leak it out ..Puder if you hold the video then find a way for us to see it ...Give it to someone else to post just for a half an hour..It sounds to good to not be seen..:) :rolleyes: