wHICH WOULD YOU PICK?
 

I know , two completely different boats so dont give me the " depends what you want " lecture. Just a general consensus, if you could choose one of these two boats. A 28 Pantera with single 600 hp or a 29 Krypto with 650 ish hp. Dont even need to say why unless you feel chatty.

kryptonite

Both seem like awesome boats but I like the looks of the Kryptonite a little better.

Kryptonite:party-smiley-004::lolhit:

Have you considered a 28 Joker?

:coolcowboy:
Hahaha , I never would have guessed. I thought about excluding you from the survey but that wouldnt be fair now would it.

No, I have not, dont know anything about them.

Tough choice, both nice boats. Where are you going to run it? Personally would go with Pantera because I prefer a stand up boat, only reason though. Krypto will be faster for sure.

Pantera

Pantera

Mostly Lake Michigan.

I...uhhh.... dont know what you're talking about............................................. :bigbird:

Do you have Big Bird painted on that boat?? Cant see it.:evilb:

Pantera for me........

Pantera all day long. Especially the 28 for me.

Pantera is one my favorite single engine boats.

Call Joe but from what I hear they have a life long warranty on anything structural whether you are the original buyer or not...

NO ONE does that. And if you look at how they're made and what they put in them, I'd say it's one of the most solid built boats out there.

No vibrations. No rattles. Nothing to break off and come apart in rough water. They use all the good stuff unless you prefer to go cheap.

That newer style 28 is way high on my list of singles without doubt.

Racing and boating in general have been a mainstay in that family from the beginning.

Pantera

Pantera.

Is the Kryptonite a sit down? I just prefer the S Fl lines of the Pantera, and the excellent rough water ride rep.

Yeah you want the Pantera for that water.

Kryptonite. If the water is too big for the Kryptonite it will be too big for the Pantera! Period.

pantera... old school cool...

stand up boats pantera 28 or saber28, sit down kryponite 27 or 29. kyponite is faster with same power.

Kryptonite!!!

Like was said before on here 28' is 28' if it's too rough for one too rough for the other - don't kick yourself no such thing as a "bigger" 28'er that would make a difference.

Pantera is a classic look Krypto to me is modern / Euro look. I would liken it to an Apache vs Fountain in styling.

I like the classic lines - Pantera

Pantera

you get the cool green eyes logo......

Dead on summary. I think the Pantera will always be timeless (desirable).

I like both boats, but I am going to vote Kryptonite.

If I am going to care for and feed 650 HP, I want to be running faster than the 70's.

Pantera, top speed is overrated.

Kryptonite.

It is by far faster than a 28 Pantera with same power and as said before, 28' is 28' so it will run anywhere a Pantera will. I know from experience.

The only factor that may sway you is sit down vs. stand up. I prefer sit down as you can see from my run of boats:
22 Donzi Classic, 29 Kryptonite, 38 Donzi ZrComp.

Agreed, 28' is 28' no matter how you look at it. IMO, 28 is a little short for a sit down boat if it's going to be used in rougher water. You're going to take some hits in either, so my spine would say stand-up. Given that, I think I'd take the deeper freeboard and stand-up found in the Pantera.

Kryptonite

Krypto. I prefer sit downs and like the styling.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mastercr.../6/WN7n5FdwMGA Vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehklDnTS_Bs

Pantera all the way. Grate lakes water is nothing to play around with. Krypt is a sweet boat but i would stick with Pantera. If your looking to talk to someone with a 28 Pantera that runs it in the great lakes send OPA a PM. Guys name is Bill.

sorry i don't agree with the 28 is a 28 statements, there are alot of factors that come into play with 28 ft boats ; weight, balance, power ratio, deadrise etc.

as far as between the 2 i would say Pantera.

But my choice would be Apache:coolcowboy:

Did you just compare experienced racers in a sanctioned race with a trottleman and driver to an average boater going on a daily cruise out of the inlet? Lets not forget you comparing on board camera to a heli shot. Jesus........christ:picard1:. Sorry guys. Respect all of your opinions. Few said it very well. They're both the best of the best for what they are, sit down and stand up. If you want a stand up, pantera. If you want a sit down, kryptonite. A 28 footer is a 28 footer, period.

That's my video by the way. I was going out of the inlet from flat water to TRUE 3's in the matter if seconds. Tough to anticipate in a 28 footer.

I've been in a few Panteras, freeboard is not a term that comes to mind when thinking about their 28. Yeah they have freeboard but it ain't much.

Wow, just watched the two vids. Your vid is awesome. How fast were you going? Boat seemed to land well. It actually scared me when you hit the first big wave, holy sh!t! Great vid from behind too! Watched it twice....

Bingo

I think it really depends on what you want. I have ridden in both, and own a 29' Kryptonite, and can say that the Krypto is more fun in all water conditions, in that it is a real drivers boat. I spend a fair amount of time out of the water, which is what I enjoy. You will spend more time in the air, it will be faster with equal power (alot faster), and it is a pretty nice ride even for a sit down.

The Pantera is going to be a better riding boat of course, mainly because it is 2000+lbs heavier.

You cannot stand up, and probably cant even sit up straight in a Krypto cabin unless you are short. Pantera has more cabin headroom. The overall cabin size is pretty similar, with the edge IMO going to the Krypto. The cabin is pretty big, but also no frills.

Then there is the speed issue. 650hp will net you 90+mph in the Krypto, but only in the low to mid 70's in the Pantera. Big difference there.

Chill. OPA is member here, not an organization. Hence "talk to Bill".

That said, the best? My 29' Phantom...perfect blend of classic lines (hull has magnum lines) and deck is more modern. Oh and built specifically to run lake michigan! No joke, owner of outback had a lakehouse on the water there when he had this one built. Wil took the time to do an extra robust build.

low 70s with 500hp and poor gearing (1.36), be curious to see what it will run with a touch under 700 & a 1.5 drive when spring breaks.

In the vid with the Pantera, it is clear what handles better...
The 29 Warlock next to it.

I have to disagree that 28 is 28. My 27 (almost 28) with SB's can run better in larger Lake MI water than a 28 Saber with BB's. Mine is kinda cheating with the boxes, but it flew dead level without them and is very well balanced. The Sabers with BB's always fly bow high.

To answer the original question, I would go with the Krypto.