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ElimiNordic 03-27-2011 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3361084)
When I wrote this commentary and linked to it, I had no idea the topic would catch fire like this. From the industry side, it's been an easy trend to identify, especially in the last 10 years. But hearing straight from current and former performance-based center-console is even more enlightening.

Great discussion and excellent feedback from those who love and don't love center consoles.

This is probably sacrilege, but I actually like how quiet today's outboards are. I like that I have to look at the tachs if I can't remember starting them. I know, I know, aversion to loud noises is a function of age.

I am 53 and the first thing I did after buying my new 36 cat with twin 700sc's was to have a shop take out those stupid mufflers and straight pipe it right out the back of the boat. Quite, don't be silly Matt!!

ElimiNordic 03-27-2011 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by THEJOKER (Post 3360865)
Well if you're gonna have a bath tub make it big , fast and sexy!

Joker, I know you are a good guy and a GA boy and mean no insult about your bath tub. Matter of fact, if I see up on the lake, I will be sure and stop by for a bath and a shave and to say hello. Dan

THEJOKER 03-27-2011 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3361223)
Joker, I know you are a good guy and a GA boy and mean no insult about your bath tub. Matter of fact, if I see up on the lake, I will be sure and stop by for a bath and a shave and to say hello. Dan

We'll have to hang out at Sun Set Cove! I wish one of them lake boats would of tried to follow us from Miami to Jupiter in 6ft seas last month - haha!

DollaBill 03-27-2011 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3361219)
I am 53 and the first thing I did after buying my new 36 cat with twin 700sc's was to have a shop take out those stupid mufflers and straight pipe it right out the back of the boat. Quite, don't be silly Matt!!

What are these mufflers you speak of? LOL. Actually thats funny bc when I got my 42 Fountain PR in a few years ago those damn under-platform mufflers were bolted up. I had them off before that thing ever hit the water. That thing was LOUD. And it sounded PERFECT :)

On Time 03-27-2011 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3360921)
Our CC is our "bread and butter" boat. 50 hours a year on the Cig....and close to 200 hours a year on the CC.

Thanks to Terry Sobo :angry-smiley-038: :D, my wife is in a frantic search for a bigger CC :drink:. It's not EVER going to replace the thrill of a Go-Fast....but it's one hell of a cheap alternative as a secondary boat!!

That's pretty much it for us too.

Well I've got the two strokes on our CC and that means NO premium gas NO oil changes NO draining or bilge heater for the winter and NO powerhead corrosion issues in saltwater. And the kids ran around and spilled sht on it all afternoon and I hosed it off when we got back. I don't even yell at them for spilling sht anymore. And I let people eat on this boat. Flushed the engines and home after 15 mins.

VtSteve 03-28-2011 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Top Ven (Post 3361149)
The 32 ft Concept CC can sit 10 people, that's a lot more than 3 or 4 !

http://www.conceptboats.com/32-fe-gallery.html

I looked and looked. I guess 2-3 can sit on the transom.

Top Ven 03-28-2011 06:17 AM

Ha ha u a funny guy !! If that was our 32 ft u may be right, I will say again our 32 ft has seats for 10, and not counting the head where would we put a guy like you!! LOL

Indy 03-28-2011 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 3361434)
That's pretty much it for us too.

Well I've got the two strokes on our CC and that means NO premium gas NO oil changes NO draining or bilge heater for the winter and NO powerhead corrosion issues in saltwater. And the kids ran around and spilled sht on it all afternoon and I hosed it off when we got back. I don't even yell at them for spilling sht anymore. And I let people eat on this boat. Flushed the engines and home after 15 mins.

+1

I spent as much time pre & post launch fussing with the PowerPlay as I did running on the water. I got sick of it. Now if I was in the income bracket where I could pay the marina to do that for me there's no question which boat I'd want.

SS930 03-28-2011 07:02 AM

Maybe a stupid question, but why dont more CC's have stepped hulls?

ElimiNordic 03-28-2011 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3361551)
Maybe a stupid question, but why dont more CC's have stepped hulls?

You don't need one at 50mph..:lolhit::lolhit:

Dean Ferry 03-28-2011 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3361557)
You don't need one at 50mph..:lolhit::lolhit:

EN,
Good one! he he:lolhit:

On Time 03-28-2011 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3361551)
Maybe a stupid question, but why dont more CC's have stepped hulls?

It's because CC's were originally fishing boats and the fishing guys go out in big water all the time since the goal is FISH and not FAST. They wanted stability and drivability and no nuances that our stepped hull boats can sometimes give. The fishing guys only want to fish. So offshore CC's were made to fish. Then, some folks started using them for other than fishing the last few years and they started appearing on the radar screen of the non fishing recreational boater. There are a few with steps now like the Fountain and Donzi and I hear Contender will build one.

THEJOKER 03-28-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3361557)
You don't need one at 50mph..:lolhit::lolhit:

This was our 1st sea trial on the 41. We're closer to 80 now!

TexomaPowerboater 03-28-2011 12:44 PM

Are CC the future?

No more than wind or solar power was the future when they were introduced 30 years ago.

HTRDLNCN 03-28-2011 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Brad (Post 3360354)
I love to fish and cruise, the void I see right now is in the 26 - 30 market, most of the CC's in this size are hard core fish boats.

I'm in the market if anyone knows of a great deal!

27'
http://www.carrerapowerboats.com/27.htm
will do 70+ with twins and they will make it with none of the
fish stuff if thats what you want.

wigginout 03-28-2011 04:33 PM

Perfomance boats all the way. Love the sound, the ride, and nothing like laying out on the pad to catch some rays. But if you're in Fl. going thru no wake zones all day, then they are worthless. To get anywhere, you're plowing creating wake. So CC's have their place, even if you don't fish. Wish I could afford to have one of each.

Fountain4402 03-28-2011 05:26 PM

I see the dual purpose of it I guess but its kind of one or the other. I remember when the fish and ski came out and everybody was clammering that the days of the 16-22ft speed boat were over. Well not really fish and skiis have their place but will never be a Four Winns, rinker, sea ray etc.

Madcow 03-28-2011 06:13 PM

I have been reading through this thread again, and I think there is a wide casam here. The problem with performance boating is it chews people up and spiths them out. You throw enough rods, you puke enough tranys, you look at enough bloody marys spilled on your carpet, refrigerator doors falling off, microwaves exploding, a boat full of freon because the A/C took a crap again and you start thinking "this is crap, and I'm done". I know I don't want a fishing boat, but right now it's the best alternative. I think this may be an evolutionary step towards the real future of performance boating.

GLH 03-28-2011 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3359630)
Are Center Consoles the Future of Go-Fast Boating?

Is 58 mph fast?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/...a0a937dc_z.jpg

Thanks Jay...

Matt Trulio 03-28-2011 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 3362204)

Not particularly, GL, but there are a bunch of them that can run 12 to 20 mph above that—and even faster.

Definitely not anywhere near as fast as your ride.

Indy 03-28-2011 07:11 PM

There's room for both...having been boatless coming up on three summers now, you really appreciate being on the water in anything.

ElimiNordic 03-28-2011 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3362221)
There's room for both...having been boatless coming up on three summers now, you really appreciate being on the water in anything.

Of course you are correct. I can take a old chalky blue run about out and drive the chit out of it and have a good time. I even like the pontoon boat ride, but I just don't get all the folks that put these CC boats even in the same sentence as a go fast. But I am all about anything that takes you out in the water and returns you to the dock.

VtSteve 03-28-2011 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3362221)
There's room for both...having been boatless coming up on three summers now, you really appreciate being on the water in anything.

Now ain't that the truth?

Pete280 03-28-2011 07:40 PM

I dont get the animosity towards them, I love the sound of a big block and the looks of a go fast but I want the practicality of a center console with outboards, I understand there not for everyone especially the guys that live on lakes up north, I would like to fish with my son and maybe get into diving, I too am sick of hanging upside down in a bilge with my hand contorted in a position that it should'nt be in, look forward to the ease of outboards.

pullmytrigger 03-28-2011 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Madcow (Post 3362169)
I have been reading through this thread again, and I think there is a wide casam here. The problem with performance boating is it chews people up and spiths them out. .

I hear ya but I think in many cases in the quest to have the biggest fastest coolest people bite off more than they can chew....look at my old lad...it may be old but I can afford it if it brakes...and I can let it sit....I know people who if it rains for a couple of weekends they are making such high payments that they start freaking out and want to sell it......D

ElimiNordic 03-28-2011 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Pete280 (Post 3362252)
I dont get the animosity towards them, I love the sound of a big block and the looks of a go fast but I want the practicality of a center console with outboards, I understand there not for everyone especially the guys that live on lakes up north, I would like to fish with my son and maybe get into diving, I too am sick of hanging upside down in a bilge with my hand contorted in a position that it should'nt be in, look forward to the ease of outboards.

Egg beaters no matter how you dress them up are still....Egg Beaters. Sorry, just can't go outboards:eek::eek::evilb::evilb:
Maybe if I fished....maybe...

Pete280 03-28-2011 08:05 PM

nicest looking bathtub I've ever seen!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/l...ml#post3361965

THEJOKER 03-28-2011 08:11 PM

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The Mercury Verados are supercharged.

Boater8987 03-28-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3361551)
Maybe a stupid question, but why dont more CC's have stepped hulls?

Glasstreams are stepped. 71-72 gps on a good day with 93 octane. Like I said before cc for no stress comfort. Cat for my 130 go fast fix. Works for me and many other go fast friends. Try it you may like it. :drink:

elvisali 03-28-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boater8987 (Post 3362296)
Glasstreams are stepped. 71-72 gps on a good day with 93 octane. Like I said before cc for no stress comfort. Cat for my 130 go fast fix. Works for me and many other go fast friends. Try it you may like it. :drink:

Mine stepped as well...

DollaBill 03-28-2011 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3362275)
Egg beaters no matter how you dress them up are still....Egg Beaters. Sorry, just can't go outboards:eek::eek::evilb::evilb:
Maybe if I fished....maybe...

I hate......... I MEAN HATE to fish.

TeamSaris 03-28-2011 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3362315)
I hate......... I MEAN HATE to fish.

amen.

dreamer 03-28-2011 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3362315)
I hate......... I MEAN HATE to fish.

But u love to go trolling for tuna:evilb:

Cash Bar 03-28-2011 09:23 PM

I told my Dad one time, if you EVER find a fishing rod on my boat:

1) It was put there as a joke
2) That person is a walking deadman

ElimiNordic 03-28-2011 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3362315)
I hate......... I MEAN HATE to fish.

The only time I fished, I cranked up a blown big block in a cove and a big ugly fish jumped out of the water and landed on the bow of my low slung jet boat! Almost crapped my pants! That was it for me and fish:eek::eek::eek:

Cash Bar 03-28-2011 09:33 PM

If I want fish I just go to HOOTERS.

:lolhit:

Madcow 03-28-2011 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3362275)
Egg beaters no matter how you dress them up are still....Egg Beaters. Sorry, just can't go outboards:eek::eek::evilb::evilb:
Maybe if I fished....maybe...

OK I get it, you don't want a center console. Crist, most women don't bich as much as you do. I'm confused why a guy who doesn't like center consoles has more posts on a center console thread than anyone else. Even The Joker who has a vested interest in CCs does not have as many posts on this thread as you. Give it a rest. What do you think, if too many people buy CCs eliminator will stop making cats?:chill-pill:

Brad 03-28-2011 10:45 PM

Well I enjoy foremost being on the water! I do like to fish and find that performacne boats are rather 1 dimensional! I bought my first perfomance boat in 1992 and sold my last Cigarette in 2003. When I think about a CC, I think about running offshore to the gulf steam, which is probably farther offshore than most performance boaters unlesss they have been to the Bahamas. Isn't great that we can have this kind of debate about our toy's! In the end we are all very lucky!

Sheer Insanity 03-28-2011 10:54 PM

Power play made a twin I/O center console a few years back and I believe Cigarette did also.

Ebay Ed 03-28-2011 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3362315)
I hate......... I MEAN HATE to fish.

i do my fishing at Meijer or Wal Mart they are already caught and cleaned NO FISHING POLES ON MY BOAT PERIOD


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