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Plumb_Gut_Phil 03-28-2011 11:52 PM

If this trend continues we'll see a 60' Hatteras CC, with full-beam master suite and walk-in shower under the console...
:eek::eek:

I admire Joker for building one with a 7' beam. Balls of steel!

GLH 03-29-2011 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by Sheer Insanity (Post 3362437)
Power play made a twin I/O center console a few years back and I believe Cigarette did also.

Cowisl has a Powerplay like that in NH.

Airpacker 03-29-2011 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3360979)
Maybe cause I live up north where it cools off at night, dont fish and love to overnight on the boat I totally dont get it.....on any level.

You need to go for a ride in Alec's Nor Tech Doug. One of the fastest accelerating boats I have ever driven. Sucker will toss your azz over the transom if you're not hanging on :)

Eats Simcoe water like its rumble strips too.

salesmanship 03-29-2011 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3362275)
Egg beaters no matter how you dress them up are still....Egg Beaters. Sorry, just can't go outboards:eek::eek::evilb::evilb:
Maybe if I fished....maybe...

No problem!

Do you want gas or diesel?

OldSchool 03-29-2011 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 3362567)
No problem!

Do you want gas or diesel?

That is one nice lookin' boat!!!

bill63 03-29-2011 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3362275)
Egg beaters no matter how you dress them up are still....Egg Beaters. Sorry, just can't go outboards:eek::eek::evilb::evilb:
Maybe if I fished....maybe...

Those egg beater's come with a FULL 5 year warranty how much have you spent on drives, headers, engines, ect lately ?

pullmytrigger 03-29-2011 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3362525)
You need to go for a ride in Alec's Nor Tech Doug. One of the fastest accelerating boats I have ever driven. Sucker will toss your azz over the transom if you're not hanging on :).

ok great....then what???

I suppose if you had a place on the water it would be ok but my boat or any boat that I will ever buy IS my place on the water....is gotta do a lot more than accelerate.

Brad 03-29-2011 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 3362567)
No problem!

Do you want gas or diesel?

Love that boat!

THEJOKER 03-29-2011 09:00 AM

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Gas or diesels , 17 ft of cabin, twin stepped , sun pad for ladies , self bailing...the 41 Epic has it all!

PS.......8.6 beam.

SS930 03-29-2011 09:08 AM

What a great boat Brian! Do you have any orders for more of them to come out of the mold?

ElimiNordic 03-29-2011 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Madcow (Post 3362429)
OK I get it, you don't want a center console. Crist, most women don't bich as much as you do. I'm confused why a guy who doesn't like center consoles has more posts on a center console thread than anyone else. Even The Joker who has a vested interest in CCs does not have as many posts on this thread as you. Give it a rest. What do you think, if too many people buy CCs eliminator will stop making cats?:chill-pill:

I am not posting here anymore no matter how many of you bait me(haha). Madcow disease has banned me from postin my ideas and I do not want to anger anyone.

bulletbob 03-29-2011 09:35 AM

ttt

bulletbob 03-29-2011 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3361557)
You don't need one at 50mph..:lolhit::lolhit:

Dan, We have one CC running just under 100 mph and another that ran 101.4 mph until he added a tee top, 52+ speakers, 5 amps and 5 batteries. Now it only runs 80 mph. Both cats have boat motors (outboards) not car motors. I feel the same way about I/Os' as you do about car motors in a boat. Personal preference.
Forgot to mention that they are cats. Bob:kiss:

On Time 03-29-2011 11:15 AM

Some of you guys don't get it.

If you hate fishing - DON"T FISH.

If you hate going fast - BUY A PONTOON BOAT.

If you hate outboards - KEEP YOUR EXPENSIVE MAINTAINANCE.

If you hate CC'S - BUY A SPORT BOAT

If you hate both going fast and fishing - GET A SKI BOAT

Or, if you are like me and ate all your veggies your mother gave you and you like and can do everything - GET ONE OF EACH! :coolcowboy:

Airpacker 03-29-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3362598)
ok great....then what???

I suppose if you had a place on the water it would be ok but my boat or any boat that I will ever buy IS my place on the water....is gotta do a lot more than accelerate.

Ah Doug, Alec's 44 prolly has more cabin space than your Fountain.


Put a full soft enclosure on that sucker and it would be one huge living space.

pullmytrigger 03-29-2011 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3362712)
Ah Doug, Alec's 44 prolly has more cabin space than your Fountain.


Put a full soft enclosure on that sucker and it would be one huge living space.

Ah Sean....I should hope so its 44ft?....lets compare apples to apples..... compare cabin space on a 29CC to mine..... and a Fountain is a terrible example of a cabin.....lets compare cabins in a 29CC to a 28 Active Thunder.....D

Wildman_grafix 03-29-2011 11:56 AM

So why are outboard so much more reliable?

Ok I know that answer, why doesn't Merc spend the money to design a modern I/O?

We may need a different thread for that one.

On Time 03-29-2011 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3362755)
So why are outboard so much more reliable?

why doesn't Merc spend the money to design a modern I/O?

Not enough competition.

Airpacker 03-29-2011 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3362755)
So why are outboard so much more reliable?

Ok I know that answer, why doesn't Merc spend the money to design a modern I/O?

We may need a different thread for that one.

They did. Its called a 1350 / ssm8 package. LOL

In truth, how many 5,6 7 or even 1300hp outboards are there?

tabajay 03-29-2011 12:23 PM

I likey the Concept 30' Sport Deck.

http://www.conceptboats.com/boat-mod...port-deck.html

On Time 03-29-2011 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3362774)
They did. Its called a 1350 / ssm8 package. LOL

In truth, how many 5,6 7 or even 1300hp outboards are there?



http://www.seven-marine.com/motors/technology/

Boater8987 03-29-2011 01:27 PM

:lolhit:

Originally Posted by On Time (Post 3362706)
Some of you guys don't get it.

If you hate fishing - DON"T FISH.

If you hate going fast - BUY A PONTOON BOAT.

If you hate outboards - KEEP YOUR EXPENSIVE MAINTAINANCE.

If you hate CC'S - BUY A SPORT BOAT

If you hate both going fast and fishing - GET A SKI BOAT

Or, if you are like me and ate all your veggies your mother gave you and you like and can do everything - GET ONE OF EACH! :coolcowboy:

Im with you On Time. I think most of the negitive comments are coming from attention seeking, post ho's:lolhit: And by the way I have 7 year warranty on the Verado's

On Time 03-29-2011 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Boater8987 (Post 3362835)
:lolhit:

Im with you On Time. I think most of the negitive comments are coming from attention seeking, post ho's:lolhit: And by the way I have 7 year warranty on the Verado's

Now that's something!

Quicksilver 03-29-2011 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 3362794)

Version of the CTS-V engine?

I'm looking at CC's, you can't beat the open-ness and utilitiy of one. Makes it much easier cruising with a larger group of friends and just running around.

Madcow 03-29-2011 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 3363050)
Version of the CTS-V engine?

I'm looking at CC's, you can't beat the open-ness and utilitiy of one. Makes it much easier cruising with a larger group of friends and just running around.

Looks like an LS block.

ElimiNordic 03-29-2011 06:33 PM

The perception that outboards are more dependable is just that, a perception. We had a number of guys in our club who had souped up their outboards to gain more HP and they tended to break down like a souped up stern drive. If the outboards are left stock, they are super dependable, but so are Mercury stock engines and drives. It is when pushed beyond normal performance that anything can grenade, including outboards.

Madcow 03-29-2011 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3363059)
The perception that outboards are more dependable is just that, a perception. We had a number of guys in our club who had souped up their outboards to gain more HP and they tended to break down like a souped up stern drive. If the outboards are left stock, they are super dependable, but so are Mercury stock engines and drives. It is when pushed beyond normal performance that anything can grenade, including outboards.

I think the point is the power to weight ratio on an outboard makes running a stock one more acceptable. Years ago I had a 30 scarab with 2 450 HP high strung I/O motors that went 65 MPH. now I have a 30 Scarab (same hull) with 2 250 HP stock outboards that goes the same speed, therein lies the dependibilty.

VtSteve 03-29-2011 06:50 PM

No to mention cutting down on weight. The new 4 strokes are getting lighter. I'd rather have my weight in the hull, not the engines. The day I start towing a boat if I ever get to Florida, it will be with an outboard.

That's where a CC outboard would pay real dividends, in salt water.

On Time 03-29-2011 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by ElimiNordic (Post 3363059)
The perception that outboards are more dependable is just that, a perception. We had a number of guys in our club who had souped up their outboards to gain more HP and they tended to break down like a souped up stern drive. If the outboards are left stock, they are super dependable, but so are Mercury stock engines and drives. It is when pushed beyond normal performance that anything can grenade, including outboards.

It is no perception, it is fact. Outboards are more dependable primarily in the saltwater environment. In fresh water my inboard engines are reliable too. The close fitting cowling and the oily 2 strokes make for a huge anti corrosion advantage in saltwater. I think the 4 strokes keep the close fitting cowling advantage but lose the overall oiliness of the 2 stroke. I have run both types of engines for many years off and on or at the same time and I have never had corrosion on my outboards anywhere close to that of "car engines" adapted for marine use, in saltwater.

On Time 03-29-2011 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 3363050)
Version of the CTS-V engine?

I'm looking at CC's, you can't beat the open-ness and utilitiy of one. Makes it much easier cruising with a larger group of friends and just running around.

Yes this is the Cadillac engine.

THEJOKER 03-29-2011 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3362618)
What a great boat Brian! Do you have any orders for more of them to come out of the mold?

Thank you. Yes we have some deals going down. Things are busy at the shop!

Boater8987 03-29-2011 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 3363080)
No to mention cutting down on weight. The new 4 strokes are getting lighter. I'd rather have my weight in the hull, not the engines. The day I start towing a boat if I ever get to Florida, it will be with an outboard.

That's where a CC outboard would pay real dividends, in salt water.

Also the good fuel mileage 1.5 to 2 mpg at a 45 to 50 cruise makes for good range with a 200 gal tank.

Quicksilver 03-29-2011 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 3363146)
Yes this is the Cadillac engine.

nice thats a sweet heart of an engine, torque everywhere.

pullmytrigger 03-29-2011 11:23 PM

It looks like this is more of an outboard discussion than a CC discussion......:party-smiley-004:

pullmytrigger 03-29-2011 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by tabajay (Post 3362777)
I likey the Concept 30' Sport Deck.

http://www.conceptboats.com/boat-mod...port-deck.html

thats pretty neat.....how fast is that?......how many mpg?

bulletbob 03-30-2011 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by On Time (Post 3363118)
It is no perception, it is fact. Outboards are more dependable primarily in the saltwater environment. In fresh water my inboard engines are reliable too. The close fitting cowling and the oily 2 strokes make for a huge anti corrosion advantage in saltwater. I think the 4 strokes keep the close fitting cowling advantage but lose the overall oiliness of the 2 stroke. I have run both types of engines for many years off and on or at the same time and I have never had corrosion on my outboards anywhere close to that of "car engines" adapted for marine use, in saltwater.

Ditto! My outboards are 375# and 300 hp and I can change one out at the ramp in an hour with two guys and be back out and running. To each his own. Just pokin fun with the car engine stab. Carry on!:angry-smiley-038:

Jassman 03-30-2011 06:54 AM

In a nut shell... YES..

what about a 33 foot cat with a beautiful North Carolina flair and 10'- beam fishing/poker run boat, twin 350's that is about 70+ plus mph..would that sell in this market place..

PARADISE ISLAND 03-30-2011 07:26 AM

Friend had A Jupitar super nice CC 52mph WOT not bad pile a lot of people fish/pleasure bow thruster easy to dock!Now as his kids got older fishing buddys not as many it does not fit his needs so he's eying sport boats AKA go fasts!Just sayin:op:

elvisali 03-30-2011 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3363377)
It looks like this is more of an outboard discussion than a CC discussion......:party-smiley-004:

Very true.....what I find interesting is everyone assumes a CC must also be a fishing machine.......I wouldt and havent fished on mine, not set up for it....its designed to go blasting around the bay and easier use for the family....both upsides

HTRDLNCN 03-30-2011 09:21 AM

Most CCs are used as a sporty alternative to a deckboat/pontoon boat and not for fishing.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...bimini-034.jpg
Most CCs based off sportboat hulls arent actually liked by real fishing guys, too narrow and too tipsy .
When I lived in Palm Beach I would go a lot of sundays to
hang out on the intercoastal and it was a constant parade of
CCs most the day and not a single fishing rod on any of them..


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