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Panther 06-15-2011 08:28 PM

Great price on an OL?
 
I think this is a great price on a 51 Outerlimits, don't you?
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32836-en.html

OL40SVX 06-15-2011 08:43 PM

Thats a great price for a 51!!!

Keith Atlanta 06-15-2011 08:59 PM

How can they keep XR's under that thing? With 5 blades no less. Lord help us!

thisistank 06-15-2011 09:18 PM

Thats a bad mo-fo! Not a fan of trips though.

Whats the speed on that Dan?

OL40SVX 06-15-2011 09:33 PM

The boat runs right around 100mph. You have to remember even though it has XR's it is not a real heavy boat for a 51 being epoxy. Whats nice with the trips is you can always get home no matter where you are.

kellyshooty 06-15-2011 09:37 PM

that thing must melt xr's, thats still a 14-15,ooo lb boat

OL40SVX 06-15-2011 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by kellyshooty (Post 3430317)
that thing must melt xr's, thats still a 14-15,ooo lb boat

No it doesnt. As long as you dont beat on it and service them accordingly they will last. The boat was maintained with an open checkbook.

boat777 06-16-2011 02:21 AM

seems like a decent price just check it out and make sure its ok.







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1MOSES1 06-16-2011 04:22 AM

no thanks on the bravo's...any boat over 38 ft shouldnt have bravos on it IMO.

BURNSMAZZ 06-16-2011 05:23 AM

Man that's a big bastard!

Dean Ferry 06-16-2011 06:07 AM

Great boat with a Great $. Just a sign of the times, especially if you were to try to finance the boat, you can FORGET it. No one is loaning any $$ for High-Perf. boats, I know and you can ask Dave P. also!

Panther 06-16-2011 06:36 AM

When I lived in NJ I did a lot of boating with the owner. We ran the ocean a lot together and never any drive issues. He took delivery of a new 52' so this one's gonna go.

SS930 06-16-2011 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by kellyshooty (Post 3430317)
that thing must melt xr's, thats still a 14-15,ooo lb boat

Keep in mind the load on those drives is spread out over three drives rather than just two, but I agree that tripples and bravos really hurt the value of the boat (obviously).

If someone had the coin, picking this boat up for a song and replacing the bravos with Arneson's might be a hell of a bang for the buck and one fast and sick ride!!! :cool:

1MOSES1 06-16-2011 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3430461)
When I lived in NJ I did a lot of boating with the owner. We ran the ocean a lot together and never any drive issues. He took delivery of a new 52' so this one's gonna go.

betchya he didnt get bravos again...

SS930 06-16-2011 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3430477)
betchya he didnt get bravos again...

I'm amazed they'd even sell an OL with bravos! :D

Fountain4402 06-16-2011 07:06 AM

to big and to exspensive for me. Looks cool no doubt but even if I had the money think I would go no bigger than 42, 51ft equals a pain to tow it and you need a captains license I beleive

Sea-Dated 06-16-2011 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3430488)
to big and to exspensive for me. Looks cool no doubt but even if I had the money think I would go no bigger than 42, 51ft equals a pain to tow it and you need a captains license I beleive

:stupid:

eddie 06-16-2011 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3430299)
Thats a bad mo-fo! Not a fan of trips though.

What's wrong with triples? I'm on my second and after all the hype against them, I don't get it. Our boat has XZ's and I've' never had a drive issue with 500 EFI's behind them either.

That 51 is a killer deal! I'd love to have it ! ! ! ! What else does a guy with a 47 move up to?! :evilb:

SS930 06-16-2011 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by eddie (Post 3430495)
What's wrong with triples? I'm on my second and after all the hype against them, I don't get it. Our boat has XZ's and I've' never had a drive issue with 500 EFI's behind them either.

That 51 is a killer deal! I'd love to have it ! ! ! ! What else does a guy with a 47 move up to?! :evilb:

Adding 10' is a biggggg step up in length from a 47' Fountain! :party-smiley-004:

NJgr8ful 06-16-2011 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3430461)
When I lived in NJ I did a lot of boating with the owner. We ran the ocean a lot together and never any drive issues. He took delivery of a new 52' so this one's gonna go.

Hey Frank ... That's Saks old 51'?? Nice boat for sure and nicely redone with 600's :cool:

Keith Atlanta 06-16-2011 07:26 AM

What is the actual weight of an epoxy 51 with trip 600's and bravo's?

thisistank 06-16-2011 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by eddie (Post 3430495)
What's wrong with triples? I'm on my second and after all the hype against them, I don't get it.

For me the means doesn't justify the end...More fuel, more maintanence on an extra motor and a drive, more weight, more room needed and the gain in speed isn't very much.

1MOSES1 06-16-2011 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3430479)
I'm amazed they'd even sell an OL with bravos! :D

X2...

OL40SVX 06-16-2011 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 3430508)
What is the actual weight of an epoxy 51 with trip 600's and bravo's?

Approx 11,500lbs. On the triple comment with proper hull design and proper wight distribution different things can be achieved speed being one of them. A newer 52SL with staggered 1075's runs conservativley 120mph and the triple version conservativly 135mph. Both full cabin loaded to the top boats.

OL40SVX 06-16-2011 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3430575)
X2...

The owners previous 51 Outerlimits had triple 575 and bravos. He liked it so much he ordered this triple 600 bravo boat. A triple 525 42 Outerlimits is a great boat as well that can run 100 and not blow drives.

1MOSES1 06-16-2011 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3430577)
Approx 11,500lbs. On the triple comment with proper hull design and proper wight distribution different things can be achieved speed being one of them. A newer 52SL with staggered 1075's runs conservativley 120mph and the triple version conservativly 135mph. Both full caboin loaded to the top boats.

im not questioning your information but when i look up an epoxy hull 46 limited on outerlimits website it lists a weight of 12k lbs. how does a 51 with more hardware (extra drive and engine) get lighter?

http://www.outerlimitspowerboats.com/46Limited.htm

SS930 06-16-2011 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3430531)
For me the means doesn't justify the end...More fuel, more maintanence on an extra motor and a drive, more weight, more room needed and the gain in speed isn't very much.

While I've always agreed with what you're saying, to a certain degree the lower maintenance intervals and problems associated with smaller power might offset that of the increased issues with two engines with 'big power'.

I wouldn't mind having a tripple 600 boat of this size (I think it makes a lot of sense), but I'd want Arnesons!

thisistank 06-16-2011 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3430592)
While I've always agreed with what you're saying, to a certain degree the lower maintenance intervals and problems associated with smaller power might offset that of the increased issues with two engines with 'big power'.

I wouldn't mind having a tripple 600 boat of this size (I think it makes a lot of sense), but I'd want Arnesons!

I hear ya...To each their own. I'm wondering what the speed on this boat would be with twin staggered 700's and NXT's. I'd take that over the trips.

Of course, no offense meant to this boat...I can only dream of owning such a master piece and "wouldn't kick it out of bed" if I had a shot at it.:drink:

OL40SVX 06-16-2011 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3430586)
im not questioning your information but when i look up an epoxy hull 46 limited on outerlimits website it lists a weight of 12k lbs. how does a 51 with more hardware (extra drive and engine) get lighter?

http://www.outerlimitspowerboats.com/46Limited.htm

The 46 is actually about 600lbs lighter than the 51. Keep in mind this is all dry weight. On the website we have seemed to compensate for your average load of gear and fuel. There's not a huge difference in the wieght of the 46 and 51. Both models are no longer in production. Also two number sixes and big motors are pretty heavy and prob close to a triple small motor bravo boat.

eddie 06-16-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3430592)
While I've always agreed with what you're saying, to a certain degree the lower maintenance intervals and problems associated with smaller power might offset that of the increased issues with two engines with 'big power'.

I wouldn't mind having a tripple 600 boat of this size (I think it makes a lot of sense), but I'd want Arnesons!


I'd be happy with the bravo boat with 600 SCi's. I’m easy on the throttles out of the hole and don’t run the boat WFO very often.

I just did oil changes on the 500 EFI's a week ago and it's not that big of a deal to do an extra motor when I'm already in there doing it. Drive service I did over the winter and bought the gear lube by the five gallon bucket. I’d bet I filled up the drives faster with the bucket than most people with six bottles and the plastic pump. The winterization was harder due to the generator, AC, fresh water, hot water heater, two sinks and vacuflush. I like to do my work myself and when I have questions get help from a certified mechanic. I guess in our area that’s what’s nice, help isn’t very far away. I can't get away from the added expense of the parts for the extra motor. It is what it is.

The cruise and idle speeds are very nice. :drink:

WildThing47 06-16-2011 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3430488)
to big and to exspensive for me. Looks cool no doubt but even if I had the money think I would go no bigger than 42, 51ft equals a pain to tow it and you need a captains license I beleive


I really hope you're kidding....don't post things like this, then some bonehead will legitimately think you need a captains license to own one...

Captains License is for charters and business operators ie if people are paying you to take them out. It really has nothing to do the size of the boat..More of a liability thing...

OL40SVX 06-16-2011 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by eddie (Post 3430715)
I'd be happy with the bravo boat with 600 SCi's. I’m easy on the throttles out of the hole and don’t run the boat WFO very often.

I just did oil changes on the 500 EFI's a week ago and it's not that big of a deal to do an extra motor when I'm already in there doing it. Drive service I did over the winter and bought the gear lube by the five gallon bucket. I’d bet I filled up the drives faster with the bucket than most people with six bottles and the plastic pump. The winterization was harder due to the generator, AC, fresh water, hot water heater, two sinks and vacuflush. I like to do my work myself and when I have questions get help from a certified mechanic. I guess in our area that’s what’s nice, help isn’t very far away. I can't get away from the added expense of the parts for the extra motor. It is what it is.

The cruise and idle speeds are very nice. :drink:

Time to sell that Fountain Eddie and step up!:D

Panther 06-16-2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3430477)
betchya he didnt get bravos again...

This is his 2nd 51' with Bravos. First 51' was NOT an epoxy and had 575's, no drive issues and now owned by Sakoutis on the board who upgraded the engines to 650's.

seafordguy 06-16-2011 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3430488)
to big and to exspensive for me. Looks cool no doubt but even if I had the money think I would go no bigger than 42, 51ft equals a pain to tow it and you need a captains license I beleive

Captain's License?? I Have never heard that, nor do I think it is even remotely true.

For me - I'd take a 50 footer in a heartbeat and wouldn't think twice about towing it. It is only 16 feet longer than what I have now - that is barely the length of my living room; I say grip it and rip it....!!!:evilb: I have to back the Cafe all the way down my street already, so what is the difference!!!

Panther 06-16-2011 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by NJgr8ful (Post 3430505)
Hey Frank ... That's Saks old 51'?? Nice boat for sure and nicely redone with 600's :cool:

No, Saks old boat was the one before this one. This is the current owners 2nd 51' and he just stepped up to a 52'. See the trend! :drink:


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 3430531)
For me the means doesn't justify the end...More fuel, more maintanence on an extra motor and a drive, more weight, more room needed and the gain in speed isn't very much.

Maybe more fuel but to run the same speed in this boat you're going to need staggered #6's with 900's at least and service interval on the 900's is going to be much more than the 600's.

The current owner refreshed the engines a few seasons ago and averages 100hrs per season of trouble free boating every weekend. They didn't need it but that's just how he rolls. He boats a lot more than I do. :drink:


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3430717)
Time to sell that Fountain Eddie and step up!:D

If Eddie is interested let me know!

45Tripps 06-16-2011 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by eddie (Post 3430715)
I'd be happy with the bravo boat with 600 SCi's. I’m easy on the throttles out of the hole and don’t run the boat WFO very often.

I just did oil changes on the 500 EFI's a week ago and it's not that big of a deal to do an extra motor when I'm already in there doing it. Drive service I did over the winter and bought the gear lube by the five gallon bucket. I’d bet I filled up the drives faster with the bucket than most people with six bottles and the plastic pump. The winterization was harder due to the generator, AC, fresh water, hot water heater, two sinks and vacuflush. I like to do my work myself and when I have questions get help from a certified mechanic. I guess in our area that’s what’s nice, help isn’t very far away. I can't get away from the added expense of the parts for the extra motor. It is what it is.

The cruise and idle speeds are very nice. :drink:

Very Much Agreed on all of the above. Tripps are not for everyone obviously, but they have their advantages. I like them, thats why I purposely bought what I did. Its not realized that with the longer boats the "Air Time" you get is less than it is with boats of lesser length. You do get it just not as much ( depending on how much throttle ). If your easy out of the hole and watch the Air Time re-entry in relation to throttles, the Bravo's will live. Plus the ammentities you have in these boats is very nice, again its not for everyone. You have to be comfortable with it all: Towing, Fuel, Maintainence, etc....

eddie 06-16-2011 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by 45Tripps (Post 3430777)
You have to be comfortable with it all: Towing, Fuel, Maintainence, etc....

I should add I trailer the 47 EVERY weekend. I'm not very far from the ramp, but the only problem is finding my way back into traffic from the gas station. It's not like I can punch it and just get back up to 45 mph again. I back the boat in and my wife parks the truck and trailer 97% of the time. You should see the look on the fishing boat guys faces when Kathy jumps out of the drivers seat! We have high speed pick ups on the AC and Gen nothing like running the AC down the main channel at 80 on a Saturday afternoon. :evilb:

OL Dan said this 51' weighs in at 11,500 with the gooseneck I think it would pull better than my 47 off the hitch.

PhantomChaos 06-16-2011 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3430488)
to big and to exspensive for me. Looks cool no doubt but even if I had the money think I would go no bigger than 42, 51ft equals a pain to tow it and you need a captains license I beleive

See bold for the true statements here. LOL :drink::drink::drink::drink:

Fountain4402 06-16-2011 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3430716)
I really hope you're kidding....don't post things like this, then some bonehead will legitimately think you need a captains license to own one...

Captains License is for charters and business operators ie if people are paying you to take them out. It really has nothing to do the size of the boat..More of a liability thing...

no your right i mispoke, it has to be for hire. But I would imagine insurance might have something to say about it.

Cool boat, but I just dont see what I would so with 50ft i have almost 30 now and unless I was on open open water doesnt really make sense

45Tripps 06-16-2011 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by eddie (Post 3430821)
I should add I trailer the 47 EVERY weekend. I'm not very far from the ramp, but the only problem is finding my way back into traffic from the gas station. It's not like I can punch it and just get back up to 45 mph again. I back the boat in and my wife parks the truck and trailer 97% of the time. You should see the look on the fishing boat guys faces when Kathy jumps out of the drivers seat! We have high speed pick ups on the AC and Gen nothing like running the AC down the main channel at 80 on a Saturday afternoon. :evilb:

OL Dan said this 51' weighs in at 11,500 with the gooseneck I think it would pull better than my 47 off the hitch.

I trailer everywhere also. Adds for some additional versatility and less wear and fuel use of the boat using a trailer IMHO. You just have to be comfortable trailering the long load. It has some drawbacks, but I prfere it over high & dry storage or lift slip. Im Longer than most 18 wheelers hooked up. Gooseneck prob is better than off the rear, plus it allow for a tighter turn radius. I figure Im over 19,000 lbs loaded, boat, fuel gear and trailer. Then add in the truck.....


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