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Old 07-04-2011 | 10:52 PM
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I feel sorry for the family, but would defend the witness who said he was going too fast.

We were at Yough Lake this past weekend as well as a couple other weekends this summer. That boat has been flying up and down the lake this summer (not just going a little too fast). It stood out for driving significantly faster and more aggressively than other boats on the lake. Everyone we talked to at the lake had noticed also, and yes I do mean EVERYONE.

I know it's not compassionate or politically correct to blame the victim, but there were also two teenage boys on that boat who he put at risk, as well as his sister. My kids could have been in the path of that boat when it came around that corner. We were up in that part of the lake a couple hours later, not knowing what had happened.

Saturday afternoon was busy on the lake. I was out there driving our boat, towing tubers and trying to give them a fun ride. It was tough trying to navigate through the traffic in places and the churn from all the wakes was rough.

After our tubing run Saturday, we were on our dock when that boat went flying by and I remember being really glad we were back on our dock when he came through.

Yes, it is sad, but I can't pretend this was just a guy out having fun on a holiday who had bad luck.
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Old 07-04-2011 | 10:59 PM
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THIS is going to be one of those threads.
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Old 07-05-2011 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jwills2323
I think that maybe ms judy shouldve thought about her statments. True his boat was fast and maybe if she wouldve voiced her opinion before yesterday maybe this wonderful man would still be here. We his family are left to deal with the aftermath.
Come on now.

She DID say ... "Everyone thinks its just too fast on this lake."

Which lead one to believe that the issue was being discussed between the locals , and that most thought it was too fast.

This would imply she DID 'voice her opinion before the accident'

And to cast some blame on this lady for the accident is downright disgusting. Shame on you.
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Old 07-05-2011 | 11:51 AM
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THIS is going to be one of those threads.
Just lock it now and get ahead of the curve.
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Old 07-05-2011 | 12:39 PM
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Just lock it now and get ahead of the curve.
Why not just let it get hashed out. As hard as it might be to admit for some, WaterLuvR26 has some good points. It's obviously a small lake, there is a lot of boat traffic and multiple locals seem to think that this wasn't the first time that they thought that he was doing high speed runs at the wrong time.

Not trying to be a dik....but sometimes us (as powerboaters) are just as bad as the phucking idiots on jet skis.

It's really sad about the man losing his life. My condolences to the family.

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Old 07-05-2011 | 12:56 PM
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So did a family memeber get on here and say that if a another person on the lake would of spoke up that his life could have been saved. I would think that maybe as a family memeber you would want to be the one to speak up. Not some random person.

Oh and for the record I have been around many people tubing behind "slow" boats who think they own the lake also you know tubing in the channel etc. not on this lake but on other lakes.
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Old 07-05-2011 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WaterLuvR26
I feel sorry for the family, but would defend the witness who said he was going too fast.

We were at Yough Lake this past weekend as well as a couple other weekends this summer. That boat has been flying up and down the lake this summer (not just going a little too fast). It stood out for driving significantly faster and more aggressively than other boats on the lake. Everyone we talked to at the lake had noticed also, and yes I do mean EVERYONE.

I know it's not compassionate or politically correct to blame the victim, but there were also two teenage boys on that boat who he put at risk, as well as his sister. My kids could have been in the path of that boat when it came around that corner. We were up in that part of the lake a couple hours later, not knowing what had happened.

Saturday afternoon was busy on the lake. I was out there driving our boat, towing tubers and trying to give them a fun ride. It was tough trying to navigate through the traffic in places and the churn from all the wakes was rough.

After our tubing run Saturday, we were on our dock when that boat went flying by and I remember being really glad we were back on our dock when he came through.

Yes, it is sad, but I can't pretend this was just a guy out having fun on a holiday who had bad luck.
I don't have first hand knowledge of the lake or the boat so I will only speak in generalities and say that on the lakes where I boat, the people pulling kids around on tubes on a very busy lake present much more of a hazard to me than the boats going fast.

In my experience, the boats pulling tubers are zig zagging back and forth, doing circles and their driving is much more erratic. A boat going at high speed is traveling in a straight line and is very predictable.

Again, the above is a general statement and doesn't apply to all tubers or all go fast boats. I don't know how much experience the captain had with that boat or why he turned at speed. Could have been a mechanical failure, something in the way, health problem, who knows. To say it was because he was going too fast is unsubstantiated at this point.
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Old 07-05-2011 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jstrahn
I don't have first hand knowledge of the lake or the boat so I will only speak in generalities and say that on the lakes where I boat, the people pulling kids around on tubes on a very busy lake present much more of a hazard to me than the boats going fast.

In my experience, the boats pulling tubers are zig zagging back and forth, doing circles and their driving is much more erratic. A boat going at high speed is traveling in a straight line and is very predictable.

Again, the above is a general statement and doesn't apply to all tubers or all go fast boats. I don't know how much experience the captain had with that boat or why he turned at speed. Could have been a mechanical failure, something in the way, health problem, who knows. To say it was because he was going too fast is unsubstantiated at this point.
+1 I brought my skater to lake norman and felt the same way, who the hell knows which way they are going to turn or cut in front of me?? I had a jet skier in SC cut right accross my path !! 2 kids whose parents were nowhere to be found!!
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Old 07-05-2011 | 04:43 PM
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first I would like to extend my condolences to the family and friends of the victim everyone in the high performace family is saddened by the loss

the witnesses described a sharp left one guy said a 90 deg turn , this is normally caused by a mechanical failure on a cat
typically a broken gimble ring , also steering tie bar etc. if one engine hicups or shuts off will cause this also ( I had a msd box quit at 135 and boat made a what sure felt like a 90 turn ) so I would be careful of jumping to the old "too fast " reasoning
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Old 07-05-2011 | 06:29 PM
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First and foremost, consulances to the family and all directly involved. Before people jump to conclusions about the guy driving too fast..a mechanical failure could also be a contributing factor. RIP
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