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OL40SVX 08-28-2011 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by fountain1fan (Post 3490561)
what the hell u smoking ..

The facts just like your Fountain friend. Look at the percentage of 120+ mph boats that come out of each factory. I guarantee you more come out of Outerlimits and pleasure boats at that.

TRL505 08-28-2011 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by fastdonzi (Post 3490588)
A 42 Fountain with hopped up 525's ain't that fast. The OB Sonic may be able to take it. :) I have been in that same 24 sonic hull going 114 (built by Performer) we actually beat Reggie in a 200 mile race (He was 2nd)

They arent "hopped up" 525's anymore....lets just say they are a lil bigger now.

And I dont care if that Sonic did 300mph....its a Sonic.

PokerRun388 08-28-2011 09:10 PM

Ol Sv43
 

Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3490554)
I'll post some pics when I get into the office tomorrow. The owner would have upped the number but he unfortunately had to head home to tend to hurricance clean up back on Long Island. The handling of this hull at 120,130,140,150,160,170+ is incredible!

Ok, thanku! That was a beautiful boat... I was hoping they were going to talk to him and show his boat at the docks after the run, but they never did.. The broadcast should start doing things like that next year.!

X-Driver 08-28-2011 09:15 PM

"And I dont care if that Sonic did 300mph....its a Sonic."

Damn TRL, real classy. I have some buddies that have some real nice Sonics. Sonic made a real nice boat.

Reggie Fountain 08-28-2011 09:21 PM

Congrats To The Outerlimits Crew, 140 In A Mile Is Fast. But Facts Are Facts Until Someone Breaks 177 Mph. The Kilo Boat Went 184 In Testing After The Kilo Run With Only 1500 Hp Sterling's. The New 43 Real Fast Powerboat With The New Merc 1350s Turned Up Will Be The First 200 Mph Vee Bottom.

OL40SVX 08-28-2011 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Reggie Fountain (Post 3490605)
Congrats To The Outerlimits Crew, 140 In A Mile Is Fast. But Facts Are Facts Until Someone Breaks 177 Mph. The Kilo Boat Went 184 In Testing After The Kilo Run With Only 1500 Hp Sterling's. The New 43 Real Fast Powerboat With The New Merc 1350s Turned Up Will Be The First 200 Mph Vee Bottom.

You know were the only ones that can R3!!:D Heard your busy at the new shop. Great to hear!!

omerta one 08-28-2011 09:36 PM

Geez...congrats to the OL team they ran STRONG! this weekend; and Eddies boat is bad azz; a 1 mile speed run is what it is...not the end all for sure; heck there was a pontoon boat that posted 107 - but I sure wouldn't want to run that offshore...and for those who haven't tried it; 1 mile happens in a hurry.

Reggie Fountain 08-28-2011 09:39 PM

Were Very Busy, I Have No Doubt In My Mind That The Outerlimits Is Capable Of Running That Fast. Hell I Would Love To Run It With Mike.

26awesome 08-28-2011 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by Reggie Fountain (Post 3490605)
Congrats To The Outerlimits Crew, 140 In A Mile Is Fast. But Facts Are Facts Until Someone Breaks 177 Mph. The Kilo Boat Went 184 In Testing After The Kilo Run With Only 1500 Hp Sterling's. The New 43 Real Fast Powerboat With The New Merc 1350s Turned Up Will Be The First 200 Mph Vee Bottom.

Good Luck!:lolhit:

TEXASRPM 08-28-2011 10:07 PM

The Classic Match!
 

Originally Posted by Reggie Fountain (Post 3490605)
Congrats To The Outerlimits Crew, 140 In A Mile Is Fast. But Facts Are Facts Until Someone Breaks 177 Mph. The Kilo Boat Went 184 In Testing After The Kilo Run With Only 1500 Hp Sterling's. The New 43 Real Fast Powerboat With The New Merc 1350s Turned Up Will Be The First 200 Mph Vee Bottom.

I have to say that until the Rio Roses runs up against the Outerlimits XXX Side by side it's not settled.:popcorn:

nova26 08-28-2011 10:21 PM

Was there a 29ft class?

Coolerman 08-28-2011 11:13 PM

Congrats to OL on their great run!


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3490582)
Your right Downtown.......you don't. It's a handful.
On the last run, I was at 134 and pulling good when it got out of shape and I had to lift. Went all the way down to 105 to get it to settle down, then back in the gas up to 126. You can't hold it over 130 for long. The slightest little thing will upset it and you CAN"T drive through it. It will just get worse until you slow down. It's really good up to 130, but then, it's who knows.
We just had a rough weekend. Whatever could have went wrong did. I'm not making any excuses and certainly not taking anything away from Dennis and Jason Parvey. They ran their a$$ off and deserve it. They were better than us this weekend. I ran quite a bit faster than recorded but that's all part of it. I don't have any regrets. We had a blast and we will be back. Again, congrats to Dennis and Jason.
Eddie

Thanks Eddie! We've been coming to the event since the early 90's and have quite a bit of time figuring how to get good readings on radar. We were pleased with our 129 on radar, but we wanted more of course

Looking forward to seeing Bruce's new boat next year. Talk to you soon.

mpally 08-28-2011 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by nova26 (Post 3490643)
Was there a 29ft class?

Yes, classes for 22 ft on up.

phragle 08-29-2011 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3490582)
I'm not making any excuses and certainly not taking anything away from Dennis and Jason Parvey. They ran their a$$ off and deserve it. They were better than us this weekend. I ran quite a bit faster than recorded but that's all part of it. I don't have any regrets. We had a blast and we will be back. Again, congrats to Dennis and Jason.
Eddie


Now thats a class. Something that seems to be missing from the kindergarten king of the hill,my huffy's better than your schwinn crowd. It doesn't matter if its a 16' bayliner or a turbine powered mystic... If your boat puts a smile on your face, you win.

Smarty 08-29-2011 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3490527)
Stock 1075 in a sv43 hung out runs around 143.

Why are you telling me this? I don't care what a SV43 with stock 1075's runs.

I know a SV with 1200's runs 139/140 mph according to the radar at LOTO. Still the fastest V at the shootout and that is what matters most. King of V's at LOTO. Now that is what is worth talking about.

Jerry Sabatino 08-29-2011 08:04 AM

126
 
hey eddie it's funny how that 126 stuck with you all weekend from breakfast saturday. bruce must of known something we didn't. glad you all had a good time and everything is well. i cant wait to see who ends up with that boat .

SS930 08-29-2011 08:13 AM

TRL505,
Do yourself a favor and stop posting the trash talk (with people you dont even know), you're not coming off well... And this has nothing to do with brands. ;)

thumper038 08-29-2011 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3490582)
Your right Downtown.......you don't. It's a handful.
On the last run, I was at 134 and pulling good when it got out of shape and I had to lift. Went all the way down to 105 to get it to settle down, then back in the gas up to 126. You can't hold it over 130 for long. The slightest little thing will upset it and you CAN"T drive through it. It will just get worse until you slow down. It's really good up to 130, but then, it's who knows.
We just had a rough weekend. Whatever could have went wrong did. I'm not making any excuses and certainly not taking anything away from Dennis and Jason Parvey. They ran their a$$ off and deserve it. They were better than us this weekend. I ran quite a bit faster than recorded but that's all part of it. I don't have any regrets. We had a blast and we will be back. Again, congrats to Dennis and Jason.
Eddie

Good to hang with you Eddie and crew my boy and I had fun if nothing else and ( flash back to drag racing days )
And my parted out Skater parts totaled 83 + 126 = 209
Top Gun :crazy:???
Jim

45Tripps 08-29-2011 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by X-Driver (Post 3490603)
"And I dont care if that Sonic did 300mph....its a Sonic."

Damn TRL, real classy. I have some buddies that have some real nice Sonics. Sonic made a real nice boat.

+1. They still make a real nice boat.

Beak Boater 08-29-2011 08:39 AM

Congrats on a great run....1075...1200 what ever they are, its still a hell of a run.

Von Bongo 08-29-2011 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3490259)
Billy Betz in his Outerlimits SV 43 is the fastest vee bottom as of now at LOTO with a 140mph pass. The boat is a full canopied boat with 1075s and number 6's! The boat will run past 140 given more room to stretch her legs!!

Not only the fastest at the event but they now own the record beating Dr Janssens 139 posted last year.

A new v bottom record for the shootout...Congrats.

thumper038 08-29-2011 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 3490679)
Now thats a class. Something that seems to be missing from the kindergarten king of the hill,my huffy's better than your schwinn crowd. It doesn't matter if its a 16' bayliner or a turbine powered mystic... If your boat puts a smile on your face, you win.

Zactly :drink:

OL40SVX 08-29-2011 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Von Bongo (Post 3490803)
Not only the fastest at the event but they now own the record beating Dr Janssens 139 posted last year.

A new v bottom record for the shootout...Congrats.

For this course correct? I believe we have the record on the old course in a 42gtx at 140 something.

machloosy 08-29-2011 09:56 AM

Congrats to Betz and his nasty OL. 140 in a standing mile with a full interior (sorry car reference) is freakin sweet. And props to young's for running a solid pass and being real classy even when they lost!

Keytime 08-29-2011 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by nova26 (Post 3490643)
Was there a 29ft class?

There are classes in ranges down to 21'. Go to http://www.lakeoftheozarksshootout.org and I believe they should be listed on there.

Saratoga Stamped 08-29-2011 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3490259)
Billy Betz in his Outerlimits SV 43 is the fastest vee bottom as of now at LOTO with a 140mph pass. The boat is a full canopied boat with 1075s and number 6's! The boat will run past 140 given more room to stretch her legs!!

It takes alot of talent to navigate a V Bottom >135, I have alot of respenct to the OL team this weeked.
Congrats to the success of the Outerlimits SV 43 at LOTO. I had a chance to watch this boat run on the course and what a showcase at the dock!. I am sure with a longer stretch it would pick up some addtional MPH.

When I had the 1075 package in our open canopy 42 fountain poker run, it was tested in Powerboat at 144-146. Then when we converted to a full canopy Pleasure-Race Boat ( stereo/AC and 4 seats), it would top `150+, but the best we could do in a mile at LOTO was 139.

Then in the fall of 2010, we changed the Merc Motors out to the new 1200, preparing for KW, the testing speeds were improved again. It was aquired, before KW, and has a new home in Trinidad, on the OS racing circuit

The 2011 LOTO was a wonderful event, and the performance of this OL-43 was outstanding. It will soon be time to start snowmobiling

Doc J
Denver

OL40SVX 08-29-2011 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped (Post 3490836)
It takes alot of talent to navigate a V Bottom >135, I have alot of respenct to the OL team this weeked.
Congrats to the success of the Outerlimits SV 43 at LOTO. I had a chance to watch this boat run on the course and what a showcase at the dock!. I am sure with a longer stretch it would pick up some addtional MPH.

When I had the 1075 package in our open canopy 42 fountain poker run, it was tested in Powerboat at 144-146. Then when we converted to a full canopy Pleasure-Race Boat ( stereo/AC and 4 seats), it would top `150+, but the best we could do in a mile at LOTO was 139.

Then in the fall of 2010, we changed the Merc Motors out to the new 1200, preparing for KW, the testing speeds were improved again. It was aquired, before KW, and has a new home in Trinidad, on the OS racing circuit

The 2011 LOTO was a wonderful event, and the performance of this OL-43 was outstanding. It will soon be time to start snowmobiling

Doc J
Denver

Thanks for the kind words Doc! You had a great running Fountain! It's tough to beat Mike or Reggie when it comes to vee bottoms. The speeds are very similar between our 43 and your old 42. Running a vee fast, as you said, takes alot of skill compared to a cat at similar speeds.

Saratoga Stamped 08-29-2011 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3490842)
Thanks for the kind words Doc! You had a great running Fountain! It's tough to beat Mike or Reggie when it comes to vee bottoms. The speeds are very similar between our 43 and your old 42. Running a vee fast, as you said, takes alot of skill compared to a cat at similar speeds.

Be safe and have a great summer (what is left of it)

When you are done with your boating season, come visit us for snowmoblining this winter
www.saratogaresortandspa.com

at 32 degrees water to freedom,,,,,


cheers

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-29-2011 11:02 AM

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More photos of Bill's Outerlimits can be found here:

Inside Bill's Outerlimits




Enjoy ! :drink:

Interceptor 08-29-2011 11:31 AM

I think it's great that the guys that build and run these boats at the subject speeds talk nice to each other and let the wanna be's do the bad mouthing !
ed

Smarty 08-29-2011 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by SHARKEY-IMAGES (Post 3490888)

Beautiful boat

JCPERF 08-29-2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3490569)
Congrats JC. That is an impressive speed. Boat looked great.
Eddie

Thanks Eddie

OL40SVX 08-29-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3490910)
I think it's great that the guys that build and run these boats at the subject speeds talk nice to each other and let the wanna be's do the bad mouthing !
ed

Its always been that way.

OL40SVX 08-29-2011 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped (Post 3490853)
Be safe and have a great summer (what is left of it)

When you are done with your boating season, come visit us for snowmoblining this winter
www.saratogaresortandspa.com

at 32 degrees water to freedom,,,,,


cheers

Heck I'll still go boating if its above 30 degrees!!:D We usually boat up until the end of October up here and even in November if its warm enough and test year round. Never been a huge winter sports guy but your place looks sweet!! You going to run the SVL down in Key West?

OL40SVX 08-29-2011 12:31 PM

Thanks for the pics Tim!!

JCPERF 08-29-2011 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Beak Boater (Post 3490769)
Congrats on a great run....1075...1200 what ever they are, its still a hell of a run.

They were set up at 1125HP for the run.We ran 100LL AV gas which hurts power but makes it safe under the conditions.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-29-2011 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3490948)
Thanks for the pics Tim!!

You're welcome.

A story can be found in the latest issue of Performance Boat Magazine.... :drink:

Twin O/B Sonic 08-29-2011 02:31 PM

Interesting....
 

Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped (Post 3490836)
it would top `150+, but the best we could do in a mile at LOTO was 139.
Doc J
Denver

Kinda puts it in perspective. A boat that big and that heavy, accelerating from a 40 roll and then only having a mile to get it done.....WOW!
I'm used to following the APBA/UIM Kilo records which gives you a flying kilometer w/the sticks pinned and piddling w/buttons to get everything right before you enter the measured kilo.
What all of you guys did/do is way impressive! To be within 10 MPH's of WFO after a mile is damned impressive. I always wondered what was left. Now we know the answer is not much.
Again congrats to all!
Gary

Saratoga Stamped 08-29-2011 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3490944)
Heck I'll still go boating if its above 30 degrees!!:D We usually boat up until the end of October up here and even in November if its warm enough and test year round. Never been a huge winter sports guy but your place looks sweet!! You going to run the SVL down in Key West?

Not a 100% on KW, but we are planning to make the event.

We have to pick up the pieces after LOTO week:
* In the global warmer boat we lost a motor on Thursday,
* Had some issues with the 1200 Merc fuel pumps in the 47
* We put up a bigger triple digit number with the SVL, than our 47 ( a pair of 1200) this past weekend.
* The most reliable was the Center C with triple verado package

TEXASRPM 08-29-2011 05:43 PM

Comment
 

Originally Posted by Saratoga Stamped (Post 3490836)
It takes alot of talent to navigate a V Bottom >135, I have alot of respenct to the OL team this weeked.
Congrats to the success of the Outerlimits SV 43 at LOTO. I had a chance to watch this boat run on the course and what a showcase at the dock!. I am sure with a longer stretch it would pick up some addtional MPH.

When I had the 1075 package in our open canopy 42 fountain poker run, it was tested in Powerboat at 144-146. Then when we converted to a full canopy Pleasure-Race Boat ( stereo/AC and 4 seats), it would top `150+, but the best we could do in a mile at LOTO was 139.

Then in the fall of 2010, we changed the Merc Motors out to the new 1200, preparing for KW, the testing speeds were improved again. It was aquired, before KW, and has a new home in Trinidad, on the OS racing circuit

The 2011 LOTO was a wonderful event, and the performance of this OL-43 was outstanding. It will soon be time to start snowmobiling

Doc J
Denver

I have to say that 135 to 150 mph sounds real fast and is, but running it in a 40+ ft Kevlar hull, with hyd steering and in a protective canopy while takes experience just does not seem so extraordinary with all due respect. Maybe running WOT in offshore conditions with 4 to 6 ft seas is impressive but on an inland lake. What were the water conditions? For those of use that do not run such a beautiful boat what are some of the skills necessary to make a run at LOTO?

For me running a 21 to 22 ft sport boat with a 21 to 22 degree deadrise with 450HP @ 70+ mph is what I call using your abilities.

Again, it's just a question from an average boater who like many can only dream to own such a powerboat.

All the best!


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