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Old 09-28-2011, 03:52 PM
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Let's hear about the boat buyer lined by from the mid-west with no credit or money but he was going to buy one for less than cost! Good deal for him!
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Old 09-28-2011, 05:44 PM
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I'm just waiting for Panther to reply with a translation to his post to make sure I understand what he's trying to say before I reply.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:26 PM
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I'm just waiting for Panther to reply with a translation to his post to make sure I understand what he's trying to say before I reply.
Mike, Kinda curious about that myself.....
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Sad to see the heartache with such a gorgeous boat. I'm thinking that's the ultimate great lakes gofast for someone with a lotta green!!!
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I do not think it is as much Chief bashing as it is calling out the owners who did Mike dirty almost from the beginning

I sold Mike the boat as I was in charge of sales when the company started One of the ideas that S. Grady had come up with (was a good one had he been able to live up to it) was to enter the boat in 5 poker runs across the country and pay for all of the transportation and entry fees for the boat so Mike just had to fly in to the event and go boating then go home. It was one of the things that interested Mike in being the first owner of the First (and Last) Mohican
Delivery of the boat missed ALL the promised events and the idea never happened once he got the boat many things I ultimately promised Mike through the Grady's direction never happened and I was watching many things come apart. I had a few more customers waiting for Mikes boat to be completed so they could go for a ride, and order a Chief themselves. Part way through the First Mohican debacle Scott G came to me and said "we need to get that second hull sold" indicating he needed the money. (This was after Mike had given us hundreds of thousands of dollars in deposit money) I told Scott i was not pushing to sell the next hull until Mikes boat was done because we were not living up to our promises to Mike and I was not closing another sale without Mikes boat delivered. Soon after it was evident the lies and deception that was going on so I backed away from the company They were not even keeping there commitments to me regarding my pay it was time to distance myself. I spent the next almost year working with Mike to get his boat after i was gone from the so called company. We enlisted Brett (DHLAW on this site) to help and Brett was instrumental in helping us make the final deal come down. even that was ugly at best

Mike and I were talking last night and figured it took him almost 2 years to get the boat We have not even scratched the surface by sharing the dirty dealings that were going on behind the scenes and the lies I was told as well as Mike was told as we were trying to get the boat completed
Mike was the guy that had stepped up with hundreds of thousands of dollars to get this boat built and the owners were making promises that they had no intention on keeping to me or to the customer (Mike)
It was not the boats fault, although it was a mess when Mike received it because they had used it for a pace boat at a boat race and had been running it in salt water and not cleaning it proper when taking it out (see pictures from first page) The boat already had many hours on it before mike got it. The blame lay's squarely on the owners, and maybe a bit on me for talking Mike into buying the boat in the first place. WE were both sold a bill of goods. The process was fun being part of something new, but soon it became a nightmare one that ultimately cost Mike the loss of a lot of money to go through this experience

Again, i too would like to own the Hull and just gutt out the cockpit and interior. I would redo the cockpit and make the interior a cover girl style
the value is in the paint, the power, the drives, and the hull bottom.

The first Mohican- You seen one You seen em all
I wonder if I should add my spin on this as well Marc?? Look at the end of the day I would accept all of the assets of the company and bring Marc and Bobby back into the deal fix the bottom and go back into the manufacture of this boat it truly was a great vision when it was master minded which I was involved in but at the end of the day money or the lack there of was what destroyed this whole deal!!!
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Anyone know someone I can talk to about getting this setup. Would be a fun winter project?
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I wonder if I should add my spin on this as well Marc?? Look at the end of the day I would accept all of the assets of the company and bring Marc and Bobby back into the deal fix the bottom and go back into the manufacture of this boat it truly was a great vision when it was master minded which I was involved in but at the end of the day money or the lack there of was what destroyed this whole deal!!!
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Go ahead, I forgot you were involved with this before me. You have better insight to this mess than i do as to how it started and when the wheels fell off for you. You got the first peek at the nightmare that was ahead of the rest of us

Give me a call some time my friend it is about time we catch up
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Let's hear about the boat buyer lined by from the mid-west with no credit or money but he was going to buy one for less than cost! Good deal for him!
So enlighten us since you seem to know somthing that those of us DIRECTLY involved have no idea what you are talking about

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So enlighten us since you seem to know somthing that those of us DIRECTLY involved have no idea what you are talking about
If it has to do with anything "Apache", it must be CHRIS SUNKIN. Afterall, he has owned more than anyone.
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