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OL40SVX 09-21-2011 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by boating37 (Post 3508227)
Yes they are, I'm not saying I have the fastest boat, and I'm sure OL
with same power will be faster. But I drove a OL GTX and didn't
like the ride of a epoxy boat. But that is just me. Great looking just a harder and stiffer ride.

Go for a ride in a different one then let me know. The new generation bottoms and hulls are even more advanced than any of the older boats. Its a ride you have to experience and only one person has actually been in one that's posted here so far.......so what does that tell you???

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 3508231)
He wants nothing but an outerlimits! Maybe he has never rode in anything else. Somebody with a outerlimits rode in my boat could not believe the water we went through.

Been in them all. The Apaches a great riding boat for an old school flat bottom boat. Technology has advanced pretty far in boat construction and hull design that there are just newer and better products out there. Not just Outerlimits.

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3508253)
Mac went from a cig to a ol an then back to a cig. Its all about the ride.

All the Cigarette guys we take for rides and then blow by later seem to be awfully impressed with the boats.

wrinkleface 09-21-2011 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508396)
Go for a ride in a different one then let me know. The new generation bottoms and hulls are even more advanced than any of the older boats. Its a ride you have to experience and only one person has actually been in one that's posted here so far.......so what does that tell you???

Zack's old 44 was a nice boat!! Hope he enjoys his new NT!!!!:ernaehrung004:

salesmanship 09-21-2011 08:30 AM

Nothing wrong with getting opinions but the best thing to do is get a ride on both, check out the fit and finish and the type of boat that works for you. The OL's are going to be faster, plain and simple but most of our clients don't have fastest V bottom speed as their number one priority.
Some people prefer ours and some theirs. Nice to have choices.

BTW, to the posters from Statement and Frisini.
Plugging your own stuff on a thread about other boat companies isn't cool.

Terry
Nor-Tech

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 3508424)
Nothing wrong with getting opinions but the best thing to do is get a ride on both, check out the fit and finish and the type of boat that works for you. The OL's are going to be faster, plain and simple but most of our clients don't have fastest V bottom speed as their number one priority.
Some people prefer ours and some theirs. Nice to have choices.

BTW, to the posters from Statement and Frisini.
Plugging your own stuff on a thread about other boat companies isn't cool.

Terry
Nor-Tech

What else would you expect Terry.......great job on all the CC's!!

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3508414)
Zack's old 44 was a nice boat!! Hope he enjoys his new NT!!!!:ernaehrung004:

Yes it is and I'm sure he'll enjoy his CC.

Bustin Chop 09-21-2011 08:42 AM

I'm looking at buying used, $250K or so. I would rather have a V bottom, for trailering purposes. I travel to different places alot. Thanks for the advice. Looks like I need to ride in both and make up my own mind.

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bustin Chop (Post 3508438)
I'm looking at buying used, $250K or so. I would rather have a V bottom, for trailering purposes. I travel to different places alot. Thanks for the advice. Looks like I need to ride in both and make up my own mind.

You can buy alot of boat for 250k. If your serious I have a few boats here around that number that will run 120.

seafordguy 09-21-2011 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3508371)
Im not sure what Dan has accomplished for the Outerlimits line, but I'd vote him in for salesmen of the year for sure! :

Personally - I wouldn't. I find the overboard posting about how great OL is to be a HUGE turn off.

Take a thread like this, 13 of the first 47 posts are from him cheering for OL and talking endlessly about their superiority, and in many cases demeaning other boats.

Compare this to Terry's approach where he put out one simple post that was appreciative of both his line of boats and others. Terry's actions come off much classier more appropriately represent of a top flight power boat manufacturer.

I am in the market for NEITHER of these boats but most likely will be at some point in my carreer. However, if I was shopping right now I would be much more enthusiastic about picking up the phone and calling Terry simply based on his approach on OSO.

Disclaimer - OL40SVX - I hope you take this a constructive feedback from an outsider looking in and not as an abrasive post.

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 09:55 AM

I'm not a salesman. It's more facts than cheering. All everyone does on here is say how good cigarette is how good Mti is how good skater is ect.....alot of Outerlimits owners arnt on here so I have to stick up for the brand. Especially when a person is looking for a 120mph vee bottom.

AppSysCons 09-21-2011 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 3508424)
Nothing wrong with getting opinions but the best thing to do is get a ride on both, check out the fit and finish and the type of boat that works for you. The OL's are going to be faster, plain and simple but most of our clients don't have fastest V bottom speed as their number one priority.
Some people prefer ours and some theirs. Nice to have choices.

BTW, to the posters from Statement and Frisini.
Plugging your own stuff on a thread about other boat companies isn't cool.

Terry
Nor-Tech

WOW, very well said.

For sometime I have publicly stated, that I have been extremely impressed with NT
design, build, quality, value, and fit and finish.

Seeing NT objectively and accurately comparing strengths with other top quality brands,
any saying that another brand does something specific a bit better (in this case speed),
demonstrates the integrity of the management team.

The more I look at NT, the more I think a NT may be in my future.

Like Terry said "Nice to have choices".


To the original poster:
I am a former OuterLimits owner, they treated me like I was the biggest and most
important customer, and the boat was 2nd to none!

4195 09-21-2011 10:05 AM

I love this Chit:coolcowboy: Let's face it there is no wrong or right answer here they all offer something different from speed to ride to resale to apperance to fit and finish and oh yes brand loyalty. I would say Cigarette has that Harley Davidson kinda feel my not be as fast a jap bike but you sure do look cool when you are going by:drink: Seriously it would be fun to go out and look at new boats there is alot to choose from:
Hustler
Active Thunder
Outerlimits
Cigarette
Nortech
Skater
Sunsation
Sonic

4195 09-21-2011 10:08 AM

Oh by the way Apache deserves respect especially the 41 that hull and boat where way ahead in their time and still hang tough with all the new technology bottoms out there. It may take more power but it is still impressive!

Pro1 09-21-2011 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508391)
Will never own a balsa cored boat!:D


1.Skater is a Balsa Cored boat. Not sure of MTI but I think it is Balsa core.

2. Never seen an Outerlimts Cat run a radar run or passing Skaters at a Poiker Run.

3. Mystic is appears to be Klegecell or Divinycl boat. JBS and Geico would know.

kreed 09-21-2011 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by 4195 (Post 3508534)
I love this Chit:coolcowboy: Let's face it there is no wrong or right answer here they all offer something different from speed to ride to resale to apperance to fit and finish and oh yes brand loyalty. I would say Cigarette has that Harley Davidson kinda feel my not be as fast a jap bike but you sure do look cool when you are going by:drink: Seriously it would be fun to go out and look at new boats there is alot to choose from:
Hustler
Active Thunder
Outerlimits
Cigarette
Nortech
Skater
Sunsation
Sonic


That new Sonic really does look interesting!

fountainfan42 09-21-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 3508342)
Lmfao! Ill bet money that a 36 sunny can't. run 100 in 5-6' seas! Nice boats but not quite the caliber of skater, cig, OL, nor-tech. The F3 would be more comparable

:drink::drink:

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Pro1 (Post 3508545)
1.Skater is a Balsa Cored boat. Not sure of MTI but I think it is Balsa core.

2. Never seen an Outerlimts Cat run a radar run or passing Skaters at a Poiker Run.

3. Mystic is appears to be Klegecell or Divinycl boat. JBS and Geico would know.

The Outerlimits cat ran by everyone including all the skaters on the Atlantic City poker run a few years ago. Key West last year it was the Outerlimits and Statement cat in front all the way to Gilberts. Bill T ran by everyone at the 1000 Islands poker run over and over again when he had his OL cat. I've never seen you at a poker run so how would you know?

Pro1 09-21-2011 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508556)
The Outerlimits cat ran by everyone including all the skaters on the Atlantic City poker run a few years ago. Key West last year it was the Outerlimits and Statement cat in front all the way to Gilberts. Bill T ran by everyone at the 1000 Islands poker run over and over again when he had his OL cat. I've never seen you at a poker run single would you know?


Why did Tomlinson buy an Outerlimits cat and sell it immediately and go build the identical boat in a Mystic?

I think Outerlimits builds a nice V now.

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 10:28 AM

He didn't sell it immediately he had it for almost two years. He wanted to go 220 in a cat. The 6 man huge canopy Outerlimts fully loaded was not the boat for the job so he built a small canopy basically race boat Mystic. He never had a problem with the Outerlimits. He accomplished his goal and the new boat looks great. The boats are not identical at all.

14 apache 09-21-2011 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508396)
Go for a ride in a different one then let me know. The new generation bottoms and hulls are even more advanced than any of the older boats. Its a ride you have to experience and only one person has actually been in one that's posted here so far.......so what does that tell you???

I have also rode in a 43 Outerlimits and experienced it "New Generation" So that makes two people that posted here so far.

cdowns 09-21-2011 11:00 AM

:popcorn::food-smiley-007::popcorn:

OldSchool 09-21-2011 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508445)
You can buy alot of boat for 250k. If your serious I have a few boats here around that number that will run 120.


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508527)
I'm not a salesman. It's more facts than cheering. All everyone does on here is say how good cigarette is how good Mti is how good skater is ect.....alot of Outerlimits owners arnt on here so I have to stick up for the brand. Especially when a person is looking for a 120mph vee bottom.

Not really trying to get into a pizzing match here (not worth it :rolleyes:).....but, I'm assuming that this is not the Dad. :D

If you are not a salesman for OL, could you please explain to all of us what exactly is your job with the company?

fountainfan42 09-21-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Pro1;3508563[B
]Why did Tomlinson buy an Outerlimits cat and sell it imme[/B]diately and go build the identical boat in a Mystic?

I think Outerlimits builds a nice V now.

did'nt Dustin Whirple have a OL Cat that took 3000 Hp + to get up to 150 mph ?

Catmando 09-21-2011 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3508613)
did'nt Dustin Whirple have a OL Cat that took 3000 Hp + to get up to 150 mph ?

It was a 48 epoxy boat and it ran 161 with Teague and Tomlinson on board. One of the engines(1300hp Teagues) threw a blower belt(twice) so they never got it up to WOT.

As to the ride, Teague said it was "like driving a boat built of concrete. There was no 'give' or flex in the hull so we felt every little bump."

Pro1 09-21-2011 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3508623)
It was a 48 epoxy boat and it ran 161 with Teague and Tomlinson on board. One of the engines(1300hp Teagues) threw a blower belt(twice) so they never got it up to WOT.

As to the ride, Teague said it was "like driving a boat built of concrete. There was no 'give' or flex in the hull so we felt every little bump."

Teague should get rid of that balsa cored 40 Skater and go buy a 48OL cat. Since OL40SVX would never own a balsa cored boat LOL! Might as well swap out that Balso Cored Skater race boat too while he is at it.

TeamSaris 09-21-2011 11:41 AM

I dont have a lot of hands on experience with an OL, what i do was pretty piss poor, but i dont blame OL i blame the previous owner. But I do know a Skater is faster :D

fountainfan42 09-21-2011 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3508623)
It was a 48 epoxy boat and it ran 161 with Teague and Tomlinson on board. One of the engines(1300hp Teagues) threw a blower belt(twice) so they never got it up to WOT.

As to the ride, Teague said it was "like driving a boat built of concrete. There was no 'give' or flex in the hull so we felt every little bump."

thats pretty funny Cat as theres a thread on OSO where Dustin makes mention of turned up 1500 hps :kiss: and my Dereberry 1200s have 1300 ft lbs of torque at 3000 rpm :lolhit: put the crack pipe down :evilb:

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3508638)
I dont have a lot of hands on experience with an OL, what i do was pretty piss poor, but i dont blame OL i blame the previous owner. But I do know a Skater is faster :D

Not even close in a vee bottom which after all was the guys question.

salesmanship 09-21-2011 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 3508598)
:popcorn::food-smiley-007::popcorn:

Is that all you have to add?

:ernaehrung004:

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3508613)
did'nt Dustin Whirple have a OL Cat that took 3000 Hp + to get up to 150 mph ?

No with 1075 it runs close to 150.

drpete3 09-21-2011 12:08 PM

Where is this thread going?

cdowns 09-21-2011 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by salesmanship (Post 3508663)
Is that all you have to add?

:ernaehrung004:

LMAO, I did'nt want to hijack the thread. :drink:

cdowns 09-21-2011 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3508609)
Not really trying to get into a pizzing match here (not worth it :rolleyes:).....but, I'm assuming that this is not the Dad. :D

If you are not a salesman for OL, could you please explain to all of us what exactly is your job with the company?

Three post later and he still has'nt answered your question.

fountainfan42 09-21-2011 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508665)
No with 1075 it runs close to 150.

let me go get the boots out of the truck ,its getting deep in here :party-smiley-004:

kreed 09-21-2011 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 3508674)
Three post later and he still has'nt answered your question.

Dan, you do use the words I, WE , and US alot here on OSO when speaking for OL. People may take your "opinion" better if they knew what your position at OL is. Im sure OL does not want bad publicity on a website like this. Your in some pretty stout company right now on this thread, be careful how you represent "your" company in reguards to prospective customers.....

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3508683)
let me go get the boots out of the truck ,its getting deep in here :party-smiley-004:

I know I wear contacts but I'm not cometely blind looking at a speedo in a boat. Which Outerlimits cat have you been in Bill? Concerning my position if everyone wants to know so badly, I handle all the customer service/relations, assist in sales, occasional mechanic, occasional transporter, and usually testing boats. Any more questions everyone? Theres prob a few more odds and end things I do as well that don't come right into my head. If you call the factory you'll usually talk to me first.

Pro1 09-21-2011 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508665)
No with 1075 it runs close to 150.

Yeah one more question. Do you want to stick to that number. Cause you may need a set of boots bro.:bsflag:

OL40SVX 09-21-2011 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Pro1 (Post 3508693)
Yeah one more question. Do you want to stick to that number. Cause you may need a set of boots bro.:bsflag:

Bro I said close. I've been in the boat at 146 with 1075 and could of used some more test time. 1200s in the boat and it will run in the 160s.

cdowns 09-21-2011 12:42 PM

:bsflag:

Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3508697)
Bro I said close. I've been in the boat at 146 with 1075 and could of used some more test time. 1200s in the boat and it will run in the 160s.

They were'nt stock 1075's


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