American Marine Holdings: “Shut down production for a couple of weeks.”
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Man to me it sounds like the end. As a customer there is no way I would purchase one of these boats if I had any idea about the history and what is going on. I would be to worried about the risk of no warrantee. Would hate to see all these brand names go bye.
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I would say your right, Its the start of many black thunder, dcb, fountain, dozi, baja. who will be next?
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Looks like this damaged economy of ours is trying its best to put most of the performance boat manufacturers out of business! I just hope that consumer confidence, jobs creation and consumer disposable income spending can put this boat building industry back on its feet soon!
Its a good thing we at Raylar are in the repower , upgrade and performance engine rework business as we are just about to put the close on a record third year of sales and profits for our efforts. Glad our business niche in this market has not been based on supplying engines to new boat builders! We would be gone!
Lets hope this boat building industry can be revived, the patient is on life support and being kept alive with intensive care!!
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Its a good thing we at Raylar are in the repower , upgrade and performance engine rework business as we are just about to put the close on a record third year of sales and profits for our efforts. Glad our business niche in this market has not been based on supplying engines to new boat builders! We would be gone!
Lets hope this boat building industry can be revived, the patient is on life support and being kept alive with intensive care!!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
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Certainly not much continuity with the business or their statements.
http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...er-hanger.html
http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...er-hanger.html
Employment is up and boat orders, at least for Pro-Line, are backlogged—that’s the word from John Walker, the top-man at Baja, Donzi, Fountain and Pro-Line. Manufactured at the Fountain plant in Washington, N.C., all four brands are owned by Liberty Associates, a venture capital outfit. Walker is on Liberty’s board of directors.
“We are currently busier than a one-arm paper-hanger with an itch,” said Walker with a hearty laugh. “When I got here in September (2010), we had 28 or 30 people working here. Now we have 165. All but five of them had previously worked at Fountain. We got to bring back 130 employees. By this time next month, we intend to be pushing 200.”
According to Walker, the significant increase in staff and the plans to add more personnel have been driven by the market. At present, Pro-Line is the builder’s most in-demand brand.
“We have a backlog and my vice president of sales for Pro-Line was just in here fussing at me,” said Walker. “But we also have to pick up production with the Fountain and Donzi lines. We’re in the middle of a commercial contract for a South American company building 38-foot Fountain pilothouse models.
“The sport boat market has actually shown some growth here in the last month,” he continued. “On the Donzi side, were have a 43 with twin 850s in process, a 35 in process, and a 38 ZR Comp in process, as well as bunch of center consoles. On the Fountain side, we have a 42 Lightning, a 48 Express Cruiser, two other sport boats and a half-dozen center consoles in process.”
Walker said that while dealer demand for the re-launched Baja sport boat brand is solid—the company reportedly has 12 orders for Baja models—the first new Baja won’t be released until July.
“We are currently busier than a one-arm paper-hanger with an itch,” said Walker with a hearty laugh. “When I got here in September (2010), we had 28 or 30 people working here. Now we have 165. All but five of them had previously worked at Fountain. We got to bring back 130 employees. By this time next month, we intend to be pushing 200.”
According to Walker, the significant increase in staff and the plans to add more personnel have been driven by the market. At present, Pro-Line is the builder’s most in-demand brand.
“We have a backlog and my vice president of sales for Pro-Line was just in here fussing at me,” said Walker. “But we also have to pick up production with the Fountain and Donzi lines. We’re in the middle of a commercial contract for a South American company building 38-foot Fountain pilothouse models.
“The sport boat market has actually shown some growth here in the last month,” he continued. “On the Donzi side, were have a 43 with twin 850s in process, a 35 in process, and a 38 ZR Comp in process, as well as bunch of center consoles. On the Fountain side, we have a 42 Lightning, a 48 Express Cruiser, two other sport boats and a half-dozen center consoles in process.”
Walker said that while dealer demand for the re-launched Baja sport boat brand is solid—the company reportedly has 12 orders for Baja models—the first new Baja won’t be released until July.
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Let's hope for the best right now and not speculate on the worst. It would be a real shame to lose Donzi; They've been around forever. Fountain would be a bad loss too but at least the Fountain family is standing in the shadows ready to get RF Powerboats up and running when the timing is right.
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Pricing on new boats are out of reach for some of us unless like said before re mortgage the house like it was an ATM. Buying a boat that's a few years old at a third to half of the price of a new boat seems more reasonable to allot of people right now. Why risk loosing your house for a boat. I know this isn't realistic for most blue collar people like myself but I go by the rule of if it's a toy"boat, harley, sand rail" or hobby and I can't pay cash for it, I don't get it. My personal opinion, and choice.
I'm not sure if it's necessarily the dollar has lost it value as is to the rate of inflation due to the low interest rates or so long giving more people more purchasing power that leads to more demands for goods. And bow everything is catching up to the suppliers with to mush supply and not enough demand. Eventually things will level out weather our income increases or suppliers prices decrease. Unfortunately we are going to loose some of our favorite boat builders that tried so hard to keep us happy and keep our sport and dreams alive, and yes make money. I may be wrong but I think the companies that tend to build custom order boats and not build a large inventory will tend to last and possibly thrive over the mass production boat companies. Just my opinion again, don't beat me up over it.
I'm not sure if it's necessarily the dollar has lost it value as is to the rate of inflation due to the low interest rates or so long giving more people more purchasing power that leads to more demands for goods. And bow everything is catching up to the suppliers with to mush supply and not enough demand. Eventually things will level out weather our income increases or suppliers prices decrease. Unfortunately we are going to loose some of our favorite boat builders that tried so hard to keep us happy and keep our sport and dreams alive, and yes make money. I may be wrong but I think the companies that tend to build custom order boats and not build a large inventory will tend to last and possibly thrive over the mass production boat companies. Just my opinion again, don't beat me up over it.
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