Outerlimits Offering Don Aronow Limited Edition SV43
10-22-2011 | 12:49 PM
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From: Channel Islands, So. Cal.
I've ALWAYS said Dan could use a class in PR or at least in online PR (since I've never met him in person). dan's effort to promote OL routinely strikes a nerve with many because of his perceived arrogance and elitist attitude. Now, I've learned to just ignore it because it's obvious Mike F knows the things Dan is saying on here and the way he promotes OL as an employee so it's again obvious that Mike F and company agree with the way Dan attempts to represent OL.
Me personally? I like the subtle approach of humility and letting the product speak for itself. There's no problem with announcing accomplishments of your company but it needs to be done with out bashing another company. To me, that's just unprofessional and immature. When a rep from a company does that, I feel it leaves a very bad taste in peoples mouths.
There's very few companies on here that have official representation because you're bound to piss someone off at sometime. And there's even a fewer representatives that can come on here and rep a company well 99.9% of the time (Terry Sobo comes to mind).
On the other hand Dan keeps OL on the finger tips of peoples minds, if you will and such marketing campaigns as this due their job; 24 hours and thousands of hits on this topic.
There's very few people I've met and dealt with in this industry that I don't like (I can actually count them on one hand). All of them are due to arrogance and all of them I will not deal with because of said arrogance. Some of you may scoff at that but the people that represent your company are just as important (if not more important) than the product itself.
Back on topic though - I think it's a great marketing ploy and I think the boat is beautiful and is obviously a proven performer!
Me personally? I like the subtle approach of humility and letting the product speak for itself. There's no problem with announcing accomplishments of your company but it needs to be done with out bashing another company. To me, that's just unprofessional and immature. When a rep from a company does that, I feel it leaves a very bad taste in peoples mouths.
There's very few companies on here that have official representation because you're bound to piss someone off at sometime. And there's even a fewer representatives that can come on here and rep a company well 99.9% of the time (Terry Sobo comes to mind).
On the other hand Dan keeps OL on the finger tips of peoples minds, if you will and such marketing campaigns as this due their job; 24 hours and thousands of hits on this topic.
There's very few people I've met and dealt with in this industry that I don't like (I can actually count them on one hand). All of them are due to arrogance and all of them I will not deal with because of said arrogance. Some of you may scoff at that but the people that represent your company are just as important (if not more important) than the product itself.
Back on topic though - I think it's a great marketing ploy and I think the boat is beautiful and is obviously a proven performer!
10-22-2011 | 01:00 PM
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From: Old Saybrook CT
Pat,
Are you suggesting the hull isn't that fast? If so, please name another true 38+ foot offshore vee (hell, make 36'+) that comes close to running with this 43 with equal power.
And while I agree any stepped hull boat if pushed too hard while turning will spin (there's a 37 AT around the corner from me to prove it!), I'm yet to see one of these 43's spin. Furthermore, what's the point of running around 'pins' and measuring g's in a boat like this? If someone is looking to run around in circles IMO they should be looking at another type of boat... Again IMO, boats like your AT's and these OL's are meant for open water running, not running around a skid-pad.
Are you suggesting the hull isn't that fast? If so, please name another true 38+ foot offshore vee (hell, make 36'+) that comes close to running with this 43 with equal power.
And while I agree any stepped hull boat if pushed too hard while turning will spin (there's a 37 AT around the corner from me to prove it!), I'm yet to see one of these 43's spin. Furthermore, what's the point of running around 'pins' and measuring g's in a boat like this? If someone is looking to run around in circles IMO they should be looking at another type of boat... Again IMO, boats like your AT's and these OL's are meant for open water running, not running around a skid-pad.
10-22-2011 | 01:04 PM
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I don't know about Kool Aid, but I can tell you I was running with the sv43 up at the fall river poker run and he was going 115 ++ ! I was impressed as he'll, and I'm a die hard Skater guy! I thought that was pretty impressive for a big v bottom with 725 hp/side.
10-22-2011 | 01:06 PM
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From: Old Saybrook CT
I have to say this is really a joke it feels like April fools to me. Come on these guys could come up with anything else other then putting a number 1 on it and using Don's name, it is clear you are trying to fill some type of void in your life. Just go buy a Cigarette for crying out loud, it is so obvious this is sub consciencely want to do it.
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10-22-2011 | 01:10 PM
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I think its a great idea, and wish OL the best! Many of you may not really understand who DA was and how he thought about business. Its very easy to see whats on the surface of his history. Fast boats, wins, etc. What I have studied about DA as an undergraduate student in business is his interests are far beyond just those items that everyone sees or wants to see.
For example, Don was a business man. I think he would enjoy the idea of his Son bringing attention to the family name as well as the progression of offshore boating. He was mature in his business ideas and therefore wouldn't be upset that skip didn't take the chance. Someone did and that is most important.
525 hp. THis is a great choice, to show off how fast a base powered boat runs on 87 octane and a warranty! These mills will run forever at 6250 or whatever they rpm. This would lower costs and increase sales - A DA must have for any business. Back in the 70s 80s when cigarettes where selling like hot cakes, the boats that where most selling where not the extravagant 3a 700hp boats, it was the base TRS 260 0r 330 hp, those got the sales and kept the business going and people employed.
Does it seem like OL jumped the shark a little? who knows, but their rigging, style and tech have come very far.
keep in mind many manufactures have used their competitors to build boats. I know many fountains that where built at the skater plant, even one special cigarette, the fastest cig was made in douglas.
Good luck OL, MA, et al. Don would be proud.
For example, Don was a business man. I think he would enjoy the idea of his Son bringing attention to the family name as well as the progression of offshore boating. He was mature in his business ideas and therefore wouldn't be upset that skip didn't take the chance. Someone did and that is most important.
525 hp. THis is a great choice, to show off how fast a base powered boat runs on 87 octane and a warranty! These mills will run forever at 6250 or whatever they rpm. This would lower costs and increase sales - A DA must have for any business. Back in the 70s 80s when cigarettes where selling like hot cakes, the boats that where most selling where not the extravagant 3a 700hp boats, it was the base TRS 260 0r 330 hp, those got the sales and kept the business going and people employed.
Does it seem like OL jumped the shark a little? who knows, but their rigging, style and tech have come very far.
keep in mind many manufactures have used their competitors to build boats. I know many fountains that where built at the skater plant, even one special cigarette, the fastest cig was made in douglas.
Good luck OL, MA, et al. Don would be proud.
Best post on the whole thread.
10-22-2011 | 01:12 PM
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In racing circles the number 1 is used to designate either the national or world champions, depending on the current rules and sanctioning body. I believe in this case the number 1 is used as a reference to winning the don aronow around long island race and is not an infringement upon cigarettes' branded logo.
