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HaulinGas 02-16-2012 07:41 PM

Will this be available in a twin engine set up?

hotjava66 02-16-2012 07:45 PM

I don't think there is room in there for a second mill.

socalstone 02-16-2012 08:13 PM

Yeah, that is really nice looking hull. i'd like to see what it looks like in the water.

socalstone 02-16-2012 08:15 PM

What is the length at the transom?

bimini run 02-16-2012 08:20 PM

Man, that is one sleek looking boat. It looks really long for 29' too. Can't wait to see this thing on the water, I bet it's completely dialed in to make one hell of a setup.

onesickpantera 02-16-2012 08:21 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but that transom does not do it for me. Looks pretty good other than that though.

ICDEDPPL 02-16-2012 08:23 PM

it be a "game changer" for me if it came with something else than an exploder bravo based drive. At least an SCX .

Baja_man 02-16-2012 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3619637)
it be a "game changer" for me if it came with something else than an exploder bravo based drive. At least an SCX .

I'd like to see it with an Ilmor 650 w/ Indy drive.

Young Performance 02-16-2012 09:21 PM

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A few more pics. It's a killer boat.
Eddie

precisiondetails 02-16-2012 09:25 PM

Cant wait to see how it runs, only ? is: thats a lot of coin for that size boat, how well will it do in the market?? OLs are worth the $$$ but can it be justified in this economy? IDK

Cash Bar 02-16-2012 09:35 PM

Cool, but it's got a touch of the old HUSTLER in those lines.

breakitout 02-17-2012 12:46 AM

Triple step looks cool.. not a fan of the sit down cockpit. Would have to see it in person.. but the interior-no thanks. BTW take a look at that massive overhang/huge fat a$$ on that thing :lolhit: so this 29' must only be a 26 or 27 :angry-smiley-038:
+1 on the Hustler comments.. I feel like I've seen a boat like this before...
Probably runs well w/600SCI depending on total weight, I'll give it that much.

techman 02-17-2012 07:37 AM

I think this boat and the DCB who's paint/cockpit scheme it resembles, both boats take styling cues from Lamborghini. Check out any orange Gallardo/Murcielago (including the SV nomenclature).

Imitation is truly a sincere form of flattery!

Stormrider 02-17-2012 07:42 AM

Is that an alcantara covered engine hatch?

pm203 02-17-2012 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3619943)
Is that an alcantara covered engine hatch?

yes, and I am not a big fan of alcantara on a boat.

Here's Johnny 02-17-2012 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3619943)
Is that an alcantara covered engine hatch?

looks like it to me......come on Rob......this has your name all over it........:daz:

TexomaPowerboater 02-17-2012 09:08 AM

Few things I don't like:
1) Rear vents that are way too close to the water. One wake against the transom and those vents will be underwater.
2) The stern design makes poor use of length and pretty much eliminates any effort to have a working swim platform or a ladder.
3) Looks very hard to get to the bow.
4) Cockpit is limited to sit down seating.
5) Colors chosen will be extremely hot in the summer. So much so that you simply could not enjoy sitting in the cockpit of this boat in TX in the dead heat of summer for any length of time with the motors off. Your best bet will be to jump in the water, but your pretty much SOL if you want to get back in.

socalstone 02-17-2012 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3619156)
:bsflag:

This boat will run into the same problem all the big single engine boats have............. physics.

Uh... Let me guess - the boat you have FOR SALE has twins?

Stormrider 02-17-2012 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Here's Johnny (Post 3619977)
...Rob......this has your name all over it........:daz:

It does??? Geez, how's the new owner going to deal w/ that?:lolhit:

johnlomant 02-17-2012 10:23 AM

That boat is bad ass. Im sure it will be fast too.

WildThing47 02-17-2012 10:27 AM

I believe the ladder recesses into the bustle to climb up, I know this is how they do it on the 44s....

Here's Johnny 02-17-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3620037)
It does??? Geez, how's the new owner going to deal w/ that?:lolhit:

LOL......not that one in particular, but the model line in general......she would look great on a hydro over at the Capri.......:eekdrop: sorry for the hijack guys, now back to the SV29....... looks like a GREAT piece of hardware for a guy who wants to enter the high end, high speed market but doesn't want the extra work, time, and $$ involved in a large twin engine boat......you can have a blast ripping around in that boat and surely get quite a bit of attention.

272bajadriver 02-17-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620009)
Few things I don't like:
1) Rear vents that are way too close to the water. One wake against the transom and those vents will be underwater.
2) The stern design makes poor use of length and pretty much eliminates any effort to have a working swim platform or a ladder.
3) Looks very hard to get to the bow.
4) Cockpit is limited to sit down seating.
5) Colors chosen will be extremely hot in the summer. So much so that you simply could not enjoy sitting in the cockpit of this boat in TX in the dead heat of summer for any length of time with the motors off. Your best bet will be to jump in the water, but your pretty much SOL if you want to get back in.

Let's not always try to be so negative on everything. There's a lot of things people don't like about your 1990 apache 28 being advertised for $34,000 in this market. :eekdrop:

No boat is perfect we can agree on that but we can also agree on the fact that the boat is a nice piece of work. Your claiming the boat will run into physics problems? Really, this new 29 outerlimits with one engine outruns your 28 with twins so who's the one that really has physics problems? If your going to post a bold statement like that then explain it. Just saying not trying to start a pissing match. Seems to me like the boat actually is engineered extremely well.

chris@uga 02-17-2012 11:43 AM

I can't say I'm a fan of the interior. The colors don't do it for me and the dash looks a little dated.

PJRIZ 02-17-2012 12:06 PM

Have not seen in person but from the pics that OL 29' looks like one of the most beautiful designed boats ever built.
Wow - makes every other boat in its class look obsolete.
If it runs like the 43', might be one of the finest pieces of all time.

TexomaPowerboater 02-17-2012 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by 272bajadriver (Post 3620062)
Your claiming the boat will run into physics problems? Really, this new 29 outerlimits with one engine outruns your 28 with twins so who's the one that really has physics problems? If your going to post a bold statement like that then explain it. Just saying not trying to start a pissing match. Seems to me like the boat actually is engineered extremely well.

I've had tons of interest in my boat for sale. Its priced just right. Your baja friends might not think its priced right........The guys driving cigarettes and skaters think its priced more than fair.

Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like.

I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much. The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. So whats left? The shiny bezels and chrome? The paint job and colors that makes the entire boat useless in warm climates? Not for $100K over the competition.........

A.O. Razor 02-17-2012 03:12 PM

OAL is 30.1 and 28 and a bit without the bustle.

ar15meister 02-17-2012 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620212)
I've had tons of interest in my boat for sale. Its priced just right. Your baja friends might not think its priced right........The guys driving cigarettes and skaters think its priced more than fair.

Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like.

I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much.

You make a couple of interesting points.

I dont think that big power single engine boats are "always fighting drive problems". I run my boat in rough water almost every time out. Lake Ontario and Lake Nipissing can both be pretty nasty places to be on a routine basis.

I have never had an issue with close to 700hp in front of my IMCO. You just have to be quick on the stick and dont holeshot the boat. I am knocking on wood as I am writing this .........lol.

I think this boat is awesome for a guy who wants a great looking boat under 30ft with a full warranty that can run fast with smaller power.......but I agree personally I would be in a brand new 28 Skater for the same kind of dough but some people dont want a cat or outboards there is a market for a boat like this.

Plus it is nice to see a big name manufacturer making a boat under 30ft with a single engine.

noli 02-17-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620212)
I've had tons of interest in my boat for sale. Its priced just right. Your baja friends might not think its priced right........The guys driving cigarettes and skaters think its priced more than fair.

Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like.

I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much. The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. So whats left? The shiny bezels and chrome? The paint job and colors that makes the entire boat useless in warm climates? Not for $100K over the competition.........


Would the problems of drive damage due to torque steer be alleviated with the use of Arneson surface drives?

Also, which Superboat 30 are you referring to, this one?

Baja_man 02-17-2012 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620212)
The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. .

Are we comparing this to a Warlock? Are they still making boats?

CigDaze 02-17-2012 05:18 PM

I'm with Tex (mostly).

This new OL is sharp, sleek and sexy, I'll give it that much...but utterly impractical.

I'm sure she's fast and fun, but definitely not for me...not enough freeboard for my liking and in FL, easy anchoring, swimming and docking is a must.

chris@uga 02-18-2012 02:54 AM

The TUFF 28 runs 95mph with a 525. I'm guessing it costs a heck of a lot less too.

Uncle Dave 02-18-2012 07:55 AM

This particular color scheme would not work in Arizona in the summer, but the boat can more than likely be ordered with different colors and surfaces so I canot "nick" the boat itself for these choices- they are simply not ones I could or would (nor anyone else I boat with ) make.

I would prefer an ITS to a regular drive with dual ram external steering ad think for the prices being floated out so far that should be standard

Talking about singles vs twins - customers looking at this have already made the choice to go single, and big singles are hard on drives - especially older heavier 27-30 foot singles. This will likely be a bit easier on the drive as its a bit lighter but what does it weigh rigged and shown as is?

I havent seen under deck, the rear sets, or whats under the engine hatch, nor what storage spaces are available.

The issue of access to the water seems valid, I swim all the time (especially in Arizona) and need to be able to get on and off the boat easily.

Interested in more detail.

Uncle Dave

Rick G 02-18-2012 08:26 AM

AR 15meister where out of Toronto do you boat. I normally boat out of the Park Lawn ramp in up until The middle of June before I bring the boat up to Lake Simcoe , Jackson's Point. Maybe we can hook up at Snug Harbour.
Rick G.

Outkast Rafe 02-18-2012 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3620592)
This particular color scheme would not work in Arizona in the summer, but the boat can more than likely be ordered with different colors and surfaces so I canot "nick" the boat itself for these choices- they are simply not ones I could or would (nor anyone else I boat with ) make.

I would prefer an ITS to a regular drive with dual ram external steering ad think for the prices being floated out so far that should be standard

Talking about singles vs twins - customers looking at this have already made the choice to go single, and big singles are hard on drives - especially older heavier 27-30 foot singles. This will likely be a bit easier on the drive as its a bit lighter but what does it weigh rigged and shown as is?

I havent seen under deck, the rear sets, or whats under the engine hatch, nor what storage spaces are available.

The issue of access to the water seems valid, I swim all the time (especially in Arizona) and need to be able to get on and off the boat easily.

Interested in more detail.

Uncle Dave


Boat weighs under 5k. Cabin is about the size of a 25' outlaw and no storage under the seat. Enough space on both side of the motors for double fender holders. It's a really nice piece Ive stopped by that boat the past three days. With an ilmore 650 it would be tons of fun.

excalibur82 02-18-2012 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 3620021)
Uh... Let me guess - the boat you have FOR SALE has twins?

+1 :eekdrop:

Philm 02-19-2012 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620212)

Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like.

I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much. The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. So whats left? The shiny bezels and chrome? The paint job and colors that makes the entire boat useless in warm climates? Not for $100K over the competition.........

A pleasure Y2K doesnt even come close to running 90mph with a 525efi, at least none that I have seen. I have seen that it takes them 800hp to even run in the 90's. I will have to see proof of this pleasure 29 warlock running 100mph with a 525, because that is faster than the SVL boats, which are basically potatoe chips with seats in them.

I have a big single, and torque steer is almost nonexistent unless you are trimmed waay up. I can run 80+ all day cruising without even holding on to the wheel. yes, drive longevity can suffer, but I got 82 hours on my upper gears before a rebuild and just turned 120hours on the lower gears without a rebuild, and that is with 60 hours of 800hp and the rest at 750hp N/A.

Also, if you have never ridden in a sit down boat, I highly suggest you try it. After three seasons sitting in my boat, standing feels terrible while riding in friends boats.

I will take my light single any day of the week.

39 Unlimited 02-19-2012 08:32 AM

Was in this booth yesterday, very disappointed. The two boats in the booth were average a best. Fit \ finish and quality ?????

Mastercraft240 02-19-2012 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620009)
Few things I don't like:
1) Rear vents that are way too close to the water. One wake against the transom and those vents will be underwater.
2) The stern design makes poor use of length and pretty much eliminates any effort to have a working swim platform or a ladder.
3) Looks very hard to get to the bow.
4) Cockpit is limited to sit down seating.
5) Colors chosen will be extremely hot in the summer. So much so that you simply could not enjoy sitting in the cockpit of this boat in TX in the dead heat of summer for any length of time with the motors off. Your best bet will be to jump in the water, but your pretty much SOL if you want to get back in.


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620212)
I've had tons of interest in my boat for sale. Its priced just right. Your baja friends might not think its priced right........The guys driving cigarettes and skaters think its priced more than fair.

Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like.

I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much. The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. So whats left? The shiny bezels and chrome? The paint job and colors that makes the entire boat useless in warm climates? Not for $100K over the competition.........

I ended up writing a 2 paragraph response to all the BS you just spewed..... and i was only on your first post. Your so full of it, the only reasonable argument you have is the vents in the back. You're stuck in the 90's. Did you just compare a y2K and 29 warlock to a FULL CARBON FIBER LAYUP? Y2K's are build with ply wood from Home Depot!:eekdrop: AND THE ENTIRE BOAT IS BARE BONES :lolhit:.

Dr. Dan 02-19-2012 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Philm (Post 3621184)
A pleasure Y2K doesnt even come close to running 90mph with a 525efi, at least none that I have seen. I have seen that it takes them 800hp to even run in the 90's. I will have to see proof of this pleasure 29 warlock running 100mph with a 525, because that is faster than the SVL boats, which are basically potatoe chips with seats in them.

I have a big single, and torque steer is almost nonexistent unless you are trimmed waay up. I can run 80+ all day cruising without even holding on to the wheel. yes, drive longevity can suffer, but I got 82 hours on my upper gears before a rebuild and just turned 120hours on the lower gears without a rebuild, and that is with 60 hours of 800hp and the rest at 750hp N/A.

Also, if you have never ridden in a sit down boat, I highly suggest you try it. After three seasons sitting in my boat, standing feels terrible while riding in friends boats.

I will take my light single any day of the week.

:sport009: Well - I have to agree with Phil, I have both flavors of boats...both healthy singles.... one sit down and one standup.... I think both have great attributes, and I feel fortunate to be able to have a choice between the two.

Fact is regardless of initial fit or finish, or personal color preferences, or this material or design or not...I think it warrants kudos to introduce a new model single in this market. :angry-smiley-044:

I guess I look at it as an opportunity in a few years to pick up a used one...just like any make of boat for quite a price break from new?

I think its exciting to see any kind of new Styles or Designs on the Drawing Boards.... these manufacturers take all the risk in presenting something like this. Why not give them the benefit of the doubt?

Lets consider that and what a positive it is for the Performance Boat Industry... lets table the criticism and sideline talk until the real numbers are out there...and if you don't like it... don't buy it?

Why dwell on the negative and focus on that? That's the beauty of being in America and having choices... personally I think its awesome...and my hat is off to all the folks at the Miami Show who bust their collective butts to give us Dreamers... something to think about as we close our eyes every night.... wheather its state of the art components, LED lights, props, motors, drives and of course boats.

It's a great time...to be alive, to have choices...enjoy what you have...enjoy the talent that those around us have shared...and one day ...maybe you will be lucky enough to test drive one, or bring one home... whatever style fits your fancy. :boat:

Look at the Auto Industry and the resurgence of all the Retro Designs coming back, the smaller Sport Car intros coming out... its about as exciting as I can recall since the 60's and early 70's.

It's great to have choices, and its even better to be able act on them with your wallet.

Lets give these guys(Engine Builders, Distributors, Suppliers, Manufacturers) our support for all they do ....

Doc of Random Thoughts :ernaehrung004:


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