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Uncle Dave 02-22-2012 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3624324)
RLJ

My boat in 2000 was 29ft single step. with bone stock 500 efi boat ran 88 mph. They have made huge advancements in prop technology. I can only imagine how it would run with a 525 and new prop. As light as this boat is i bet the figures are close. Remeber this thing is very light. All there new boats are light and hence one of the reasons they see the speeds they do.

Warlock 25 Euro (502 EFI 415 shpBlkHk) 75.2 radar Powerboat 4/95

Warlock 26 WC (525 SC 490 shp) 68 radar Powerboat 12/92

Warlock 25 SXT cat (525 SC “ “ ) 91.9 radar Hot Boat 1/97

Warlock (UL) 25 World Class stp (502 MPI 415 shp) 72.6 radar Powerboat 1/01

Warlock (UL) 28 SXT cat (HP 500 EFI 470 shp) 79.3 radar Hot Boat 1/00

Warlock 25 World Class (575SCi 550 shp) 85.1 radar Hot Boat 2/03

Warlock (UL) 27 World Class (500 bhp) 74.6 radar Hot Boat 1/98

Warlock (UL) 27 World Class st (HP500 470 shp 73.8 radar Hot Boat 2/99

Warlock (UL) 28 World Class (T 454 MPI 385 shp) 75.5 radar Hot Boat 7/96

Warlock (UL) 29 World Class st (HP500 470 shp) 76.1 radar Powerboat 4/98

“ “ “ “ “ “ (496 Mag HO 425 shp) 71.4 radar Powerboat 9/02

" " " " " " (502 MPI 415 shp) 67 radar Hot Boat 9/98

“ “ “ “ “ “ F1 (HP500 470 shp) 77 radar Powerboat 9/00


Care to try again on that top speed number? Maybe you have some other third party observation of it, but the recorded data on the warlock 29 is nowhere near 88MPH with a stock 500.

The OL boat is not THAT light, but understandably we dont know the real weight is.

Uncle Dave

jmoore1225 02-22-2012 04:37 PM

Why does everything need to be wrapped in alcantara, how does it hold up to water being all over it?

43sv 02-22-2012 04:49 PM

I just got back from a ride in the new 29 with Mike. Boat is unbeleivable runs perfect, no chine walk, no tab needed. Very smooth over 2-3ft waves, and yes top speed was 94 on the rev limiter. It will go close to 100 when Mike is finished playing with it. These are not whipple boxes so lets not start that.

socalstone 02-22-2012 06:19 PM

94, Very nice.

Somebody, tell OL to update their website. It still says 28sv? and has the line drawing & computer mock up.

I'm still not clear whether this is 29 + the swim step, or 29 including the swimstep? Anyone know?

pm203 02-22-2012 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by jmoore1225 (Post 3624357)
Why does everything need to be wrapped in alcantara, how does it hold up to water being all over it?

I really think that all that alacantara detracts from a boat like this.

rlj676 02-22-2012 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3624343)
Warlock 25 Euro (502 EFI 415 shpBlkHk) 75.2 radar Powerboat 4/95

Warlock 26 WC (525 SC 490 shp) 68 radar Powerboat 12/92

Warlock 25 SXT cat (525 SC “ “ ) 91.9 radar Hot Boat 1/97

Warlock (UL) 25 World Class stp (502 MPI 415 shp) 72.6 radar Powerboat 1/01

Warlock (UL) 28 SXT cat (HP 500 EFI 470 shp) 79.3 radar Hot Boat 1/00

Warlock 25 World Class (575SCi 550 shp) 85.1 radar Hot Boat 2/03

Warlock (UL) 27 World Class (500 bhp) 74.6 radar Hot Boat 1/98

Warlock (UL) 27 World Class st (HP500 470 shp 73.8 radar Hot Boat 2/99

Warlock (UL) 28 World Class (T 454 MPI 385 shp) 75.5 radar Hot Boat 7/96

Warlock (UL) 29 World Class st (HP500 470 shp) 76.1 radar Powerboat 4/98

“ “ “ “ “ “ (496 Mag HO 425 shp) 71.4 radar Powerboat 9/02

" " " " " " (502 MPI 415 shp) 67 radar Hot Boat 9/98

“ “ “ “ “ “ F1 (HP500 470 shp) 77 radar Powerboat 9/00


Care to try again on that top speed number? Maybe you have some other third party observation of it, but the recorded data on the warlock 29 is nowhere near 88MPH with a stock 500.

The OL boat is not THAT light, but understandably we dont know the real weight is.

Uncle Dave

Thank you for that! Some of these claims sure seem outrageous, and honestly how did Warlock come into play as the fastest V? I've never heard that. Typically in this size it's a Velocity with steps and a big pad I thought that topped out the highest?

What do I know, I do 70 w/ 500 hp.:lolhit:

Indy 02-22-2012 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by 43sv (Post 3624368)
I just got back from a ride in the new 29 with Mike. Boat is unbeleivable runs perfect, no chine walk, no tab needed. Very smooth over 2-3ft waves, and yes top speed was 94 on the rev limiter. It will go close to 100 when Mike is finished playing with it. These are not whipple boxes so lets not start that.

We don't want to hear that, let's keep it negative please. Facts will only stop this infantile BS so just tell us the ride sucked, Mike is a dick, OL sucks, OL is going out of business, the owner hates the color, and the bustle was only put on to p!ss off people, that way this stupid thread can continue. :whistle:

onesickpantera 02-22-2012 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by rlj676 (Post 3624524)
Thank you for that! Some of these claims sure seem outrageous, and honestly how did Warlock come into play as the fastest V? I've never heard that. Typically in this size it's a Velocity with steps and a big pad I thought that topped out the highest?

What do I know, I do 70 w/ 500 hp.:lolhit:

Yep I believe Velocity still owns the Factory One kilo record at 86 and some change.

SVL-WARLOCK 02-22-2012 08:07 PM

uncle dave

my boat weighed 4000 lbs ran that number all day long. I ended up over a min ahead of the second place boat at trhe worlds. I lapped almost half of the field. I am sorry you dont believe the figures. The boat beat several f2 boats at the worlds. I had the boat hooked up. If you have any other questions let me know.I will be more than happy to give examples.

SVL-WARLOCK 02-22-2012 08:10 PM

It is also one of the best handling single engine boats . Period.

Uncle Dave 02-22-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 3624563)
Yep I believe Velocity still owns the Factory One kilo record at 86 and some change.

Lavey went 90 in 06 with a 525.

It was a super light canopy boat though. The race version of this 28 EVO which holds it own against anything HP/LB

Velocities are always fast per ft/hp Unsure if they are a true 24 degree v though.


The 27-29 ft single engine space has a lots of really great choices and Outerlimits is one of the few that could impress me.


UD

Uncle Dave 02-22-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3624564)
uncle dave

my boat weighed 4000 lbs ran that number all day long. I ended up over a min ahead of the second place boat at trhe worlds. I lapped almost half of the field. I am sorry you dont believe the figures. The boat beat several f2 boats at the worlds. I had the boat hooked up. If you have any other questions let me know.I will be more than happy to give examples.

when you said "bone stock" I took the hull into account.

A stock boat and engine will absolutely not do that.

Makes MUCH more sense - A stripped down no interior raceboat weighing around 4K would probably do about what you are describing.

UD

onesickpantera 02-22-2012 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3624564)
uncle dave

my boat weighed 4000 lbs ran that number all day long. I ended up over a min ahead of the second place boat at trhe worlds. I lapped almost half of the field. I am sorry you dont believe the figures.

What year?

SVL-WARLOCK 02-22-2012 08:28 PM

UD

Sorry I didnt explain better. The motor was bone stock. After the first race they tore me down.

Also I as spinning both 30 p bravo 1 or a 32 depending on what the conditions were.

SVL-WARLOCK 02-22-2012 08:31 PM

The boat was a 2000 but I ran it starting in Jully 1999.ran through 2000. Won the worlds in 99. Some of the f2 guys came up to us after the race and were telling us how awesome we ran. The boat just plain flew.

onesickpantera 02-22-2012 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3624593)
The boat was a 2000 but I ran it starting in Jully 1999.ran through 2000. Won the worlds in 99. Some of the f2 guys came up to us after the race and were telling us how awesome we ran. The boat just plain flew.

Warlock made a great Factory One boat! What boat did you run? Did you run after 99?

SVL-WARLOCK 02-22-2012 08:50 PM

I ran some in 200o. I had the yellow boat and ran under the warlock factory name.

Whipple Charged 02-22-2012 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620009)
Few things I don't like:
1) Rear vents that are way too close to the water. One wake against the transom and those vents will be underwater.
2) The stern design makes poor use of length and pretty much eliminates any effort to have a working swim platform or a ladder.
3) Looks very hard to get to the bow.
4) Cockpit is limited to sit down seating.
5) Colors chosen will be extremely hot in the summer. So much so that you simply could not enjoy sitting in the cockpit of this boat in TX in the dead heat of summer for any length of time with the motors off. Your best bet will be to jump in the water, but your pretty much SOL if you want to get back in.

The inlet that connects the rear vents is much further up, so while water could get in a few inches possibly, it still has a journey to get to the actual opening in the hatch.

To get to the bow, it just takes a little bending. I like lower, sleeker boats so I don't mind that, my 43 coming is cut down.

Plenty of room for the ladder in center, you are correct if you talk about it being offset. The sides is strong enough to stand on though so technically you could get on there, but not quite as easy as a normal swim platform. Standard ladder can be bolted from bottom, another option is the ladder that slides in and is hidden, same as 43/44.

I thought, and most did as well, cockpit was actually huge. I'm 6-1 and had ample room for my knees in every seat.

Colors were picked by owner, which boats in Mass so its not really an issue on the north/east coast. Also, the alcantara does not get anywhere near as hot as vinyl or leather. Still in Havasu, it would be warm but not unbearable.

Whipple Charged 02-22-2012 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620212)
I've had tons of interest in my boat for sale. Its priced just right. Your baja friends might not think its priced right........The guys driving cigarettes and skaters think its priced more than fair.

Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like.

I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much. The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. So whats left? The shiny bezels and chrome? The paint job and colors that makes the entire boat useless in warm climates? Not for $100K over the competition.........

Rumored? Never heard that and think that is pretty funny. This is the first 29, and it has a Merc package, how would that upset them? Also, with a few of the last few boats, and almost all the OL boats sold at the show have new Merc power.

With the magazine test and reviews coming soon, this boat will certainly set new standards. The monocoque design, agressive styling, quality materials and componets and race inspired design will set it apart from others.

As with everything, it won't be for everyone, whether its price, style or fear of speed. Many that crave speed, handling and the OL look and feel will love it. There will be quite a few coming soon so time will tell.

Stormrider 02-22-2012 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by jmoore1225 (Post 3624357)
Why does everything need to be wrapped in alcantara, how does it hold up to water being all over it?

My alcantara kitchen bar stools hold up very well to everything from gatorade, yogurt and tomato sauce spills. They also bounce back from a wet rag wipe down.
And i gotta say... the alcantara seats in my S4 are nice and grippy... don't get hot or cold to the touch.

Just not sure i'd wanna hose them down.

But if i swung as big of a d'ck as the owner of this 29... i'd just replace the alcantara every year. :evilb:

JasonSmith 02-22-2012 09:56 PM

There sure is a lot of pissing & moaning going on about a boat, by people that probably can't afford it to begin with, going on here.
Neat boat for sure. If you don't like the colors, the power or the interior I'm sure OL will build it & color it just how you want. That's what they do. They build custom boats. Pretty cool custom boats in my opinion.

onesickpantera 02-22-2012 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by 43sv (Post 3624368)
I just got back from a ride in the new 29 with Mike. Boat is unbeleivable runs perfect, no chine walk, no tab needed. Very smooth over 2-3ft waves, and yes top speed was 94 on the rev limiter. It will go close to 100 when Mike is finished playing with it. These are not whipple boxes so lets not start that.

IF this boat runs 94+ mph with a 525 in 2-3s that is truly impressive and makes it much easier to overlook the styling!

pm203 02-22-2012 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 3624693)
IF this boat runs 94+ mph with a 525 in 2-3s that is truly impressive and makes it much easier to overlook the styling!

I believe it has a Merc 600.

DPT MOTORSPORTS 02-22-2012 10:36 PM

SVL-WARLOCK,

Do you still have the boat?? If not do you know where it wnet. Always like the 29' Warlocks.

Whipple Charged 02-22-2012 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 3624693)
IF this boat runs 94+ mph with a 525 in 2-3s that is truly impressive and makes it much easier to overlook the styling!

Its got a stock 600SCi. It ran 94mph the first time out, on the limiter with plenty more. Its very feasible that it could reach 100mph in the right conditions with the stock 600SCi.

SVL-WARLOCK 02-23-2012 05:17 AM

DPT

I dont have that boat any more.It was purchased by a professional hockey player and I cant seem to find it. It was a special piece of glass. Not many were built like it. Lance payed special attention to it due to the fact he was going to be racing in it. I always felt safe in it. I wish someine would buy the mold and out a new deck on it. I currently have a 27 warlock. I have a 540 with blower and FI I will be using to tear up the ocean around AC.

excalibur82 02-23-2012 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3620212)
I've had tons of interest in my boat for sale. Its priced just right. Your baja friends might not think its priced right........The guys driving cigarettes and skaters think its priced more than fair.

Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like.

I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much. The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. So whats left? The shiny bezels and chrome? The paint job and colors that makes the entire boat useless in warm climates? Not for $100K over the competition.........

TOOL...:eekdrop:

Uncle Dave 02-23-2012 11:57 AM

I see no need for emotional outbursts (name calling) when simple disagreement can suffice.


UD

DPT MOTORSPORTS 02-23-2012 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3624791)
DPT

I dont have that boat any more.It was purchased by a professional hockey player and I cant seem to find it. It was a special piece of glass. Not many were built like it. Lance payed special attention to it due to the fact he was going to be racing in it. I always felt safe in it. I wish someine would buy the mold and out a new deck on it. I currently have a 27 warlock. I have a 540 with blower and FI I will be using to tear up the ocean around AC.

Post a pic if you have one. I think I know the boat you are talking about. Thanks for the response.

onesickpantera 02-23-2012 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3624617)
I ran some in 200o. I had the yellow boat and ran under the warlock factory name.

Got ya. Were you able to run F1 at 4000lbs? I didn't start watching until 2001-2002 and I thought minimum weight was 4600.

onesickpantera 02-23-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 3624694)
I believe it has a Merc 600.

Ahhhh, with all the 525 talk I got confused. Still impressive numbers though. If the boat really runs that fast I give them credit.

SS930 02-23-2012 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3625132)
I see no need for emotional outbursts (name calling) when simple disagreement can suffice.


UD

You might want to check your browser, this is OSO, not Tulips&Daisies.com! :lolhit:


:drink:

Uncle Dave 02-23-2012 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3625557)
You might want to check your browser, this is OSO, not Tulips&Daisies.com! :lolhit:


:drink:

....but apparently to some it is the 8th grade all over again.

Guy might not have liked Tex's message, but there is merit to what he is saying.

UD

chris@uga 02-23-2012 09:26 PM

I believe Raylar said the Merc 600SC makes around 670hp.

That's a lot different than a 525, although still pretty impressive.

Whipple Charged 02-23-2012 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by chris@uga (Post 3625592)
I believe Raylar said the Merc 600SC makes around 670hp.

That's a lot different than a 525, although still pretty impressive.

Thats very inaccurate, it makes close to 570hp, roughly 30hp more than the 525HP EFI.

Whipple Charged 02-23-2012 09:30 PM

The boat sitting on one of the beautiful beaches of Miami.....

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...L29Miami_1.jpg

Enough 4 Play 02-23-2012 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 3625604)
The boat sitting on one of the beautiful beaches of Miami.....

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...L29Miami_1.jpg

Correction. Beautiful boat sitting on one of the beautiful beaches of Miami!!!!!!!!!

AB From Windsor 02-23-2012 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 3625604)
The boat sitting on one of the beautiful beaches of Miami.....

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...L29Miami_1.jpg



The lines of the SV29 OL, looks sleek and I love that colour. That is one awesome looking boat sitting on that beautiful beach in Miami.

Whipple Charged 02-23-2012 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by chris@uga (Post 3625592)
I believe Raylar said the Merc 600SC makes around 670hp.

That's a lot different than a 525, although still pretty impressive.

Here's a dyno graph of 2 brand new motors. One being the 525, other being the 600sci. The only change to either is the rev limit is changed to 5850. Stock everything else.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9.../600vs5252.jpg

Whipple Charged 02-23-2012 09:42 PM

Slightly different angle.....

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h9...L29Miami_3.jpg


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