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Originally Posted by Mastercraft240
(Post 3633307)
With a full cabin?
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[QUOTE=SS930;3633491]Dont worry guys, hopefully sometime within the next ten or twenty years or so Cigarette will create something new and you will be able to talk about that. With any luck it will be a 29 as well and then you guys can talk up why it runs 15 mph slower (with a stripped 1/2 cabin and the same power), but hey... I'm sure the rigging in the Cig will be sooooooo much better! :lolhit:
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Originally Posted by Baja_man
(Post 3633382)
I hear you....I'm just trying to get to 80 with over 600HP....
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Cigarette has enough confidence and builds such a better boat they don't need 27 pages on one boat. Neither does Nortech, Skater, MTI or in fact, anyone else. You guys treat this 29 likes its the second coming of Christ. It is just another nice boat that happens to be fast and hopefully will make someone happy.
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Originally Posted by kreed
(Post 3633505)
Originally Posted by SS930
(Post 3633491)
Dont worry guys, hopefully sometime within the next ten or twenty years or so Cigarette will create something new and you will be able to talk about that. With any luck it will be a 29 as well and then you guys can talk up why it runs 15 mph slower (with a stripped 1/2 cabin and the same power), but hey... I'm sure the rigging in the Cig will be sooooooo much better! :lolhit:
:hijack::hijack::eek::eek::blahblah::blahblah::mad ::mad::silenced::silenced::banned::banned::cool::c ool::Whatever::Whatever::hitfan::hitfan::point::po int::7160::7160::ban?::ban?::duel::duel::asskiss:: asskiss::hothead::hothead::violent-smiley-045::violent-smiley-045::nhl_fight::nhl_fight::angry-smiley-055::angry-smiley-055::signs069::signs069::greenchainsaw::greenchain saw::violent-smiley-021::violent-smiley-021::throw::throw::argue::argue: |
Originally Posted by noli
(Post 3633255)
If you have this magazine, there's a nice write up on the OL SV29 with HP525 SCi
Source: 'Sport Boat' Periodical "Your Power & Performance Source" Photo Credit: Sport Boat Magazine Edition: Fall 2011 page 14 Hull: SV29, no bussel, previous windshield version I have to say that if this boat runs 100 with a stock 600 that is damn impressive. |
quote(SS930) I expected you to reply with more smilies... and what took you so long to reply???
Hahahahaha!.......... I was waiting for your Cigarette hating comment you cool aid drinking pool shark! Its crazy that in a size boat that Cig doesnt even make, the 29 OL is STILL being compared to the godfather of performance boats...... |
The good news for us with "slow" boats is that you probably won't be running into one of these OL's very often. :whistle:
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Originally Posted by kreed
(Post 3633547)
quote(SS930) I expected you to reply with more smilies... and what took you so long to reply???
Hahahahaha!.......... I was waiting for your Cigarette hating comment you cool aid drinking pool shark! Its crazy that in a size boat that Cig doesnt even make, the 29 OL is STILL being compared to the godfather of performance boats...... A direct comparison and the full fanboy-effect that would soon follow will have to wait until there's 50 nearly identical Cig 29's parted at every dock (compared to the one or two 29 OL's). And just think, if Cig made a 29 there would be so many more cool guys sporting Cig license plates and wearing Ciggy jackets! :party-smiley-004: |
Originally Posted by SS930
(Post 3633631)
Haha!
A direct comparison and the full fanboy-effect that would soon follow will have to wait until there's 50 nearly identical Cig 29's parted at every dock (compared to the one or two 29 OL's). And just think, if Cig made a 29 there would be so many more cool guys sporting Cig license plates and wearing Ciggy jackets! :party-smiley-004: |
Originally Posted by kreed
(Post 3633659)
The liscense plate is on my wifes car Mr Cool aid. And BTW, ask her what her favorite boat is....Ill bet the farm she says Cigarette Bullet! My jacket was a Christmas gift from my brother that I couldnt let go when I sold the boat....... Plus, Im sure it will be used again when I get my TS Top Gun !!!!! BTW, I recall you inquiring about some OL apparell.....did they ever come through for you???? Haha, I thought not.
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Originally Posted by kreed
(Post 3633659)
The liscense plate is on my wifes car Mr Cool aid. And BTW, ask her what her favorite boat is....Ill bet the farm she says Cigarette Bullet! My jacket was a Christmas gift from my brother that I couldnt let go when I sold the boat....... Plus, Im sure it will be used again when I get my TS Top Gun !!!!! BTW, I recall you inquiring about some OL apparell.....did they ever come through for you???? Haha, I thought not.
Originally Posted by SS930
(Post 3633688)
Not only did OL come through in spades with my gear (shirts, jackets, pants, socks, hats, sport-coat, license plates, coolers, etc) so I can hang with you guys, but they are also custom making me an OL logo Speedo with an enlarged schlong pocket and built in penis pump! I'm gonna 'hang' with you Ciggy boys yet! :lolhit:
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Originally Posted by SS930
(Post 3633491)
Dont worry guys, hopefully sometime within the next ten or twenty years or so Cigarette will create something new and you will be able to talk about that. With any luck it will be a 29 as well and then you guys can talk up why it runs 15 mph slower (with a stripped 1/2 cabin and the same power), but hey... I'm sure the rigging in the Cig will be sooooooo much better! :lolhit:
A 30' Phantom pleasure with full cabin will run over 100 mph with a single 525?!?!?!?! :eek: :bsflag: My previous post never mentioned a 30' Phantom running 100 mph with a 525, that would indeed be BS. The comparison was a 525 match-up. You are correct, the 30' Phantom will not run 100mph (it is not in any of my posts) with a 525, but no one made that claim, nor did I make that claim. Re-read my post without inferences. |
Originally Posted by Smarty
(Post 3633867)
The 30' Phantom pleasure version will run 90+ mph with a 525, the OL 29' pleasure version 29' runs 90+ mph with a 525. The 29' OL with a 600 sciMerc runs 101 mph (maybe more with more prop testing). Hope that clarifies any confusion. The OL 29' is very fast, no argument there at all.
My previous post never mentioned a 30' Phantom running 100 mph with a 525, that would indeed be BS. The comparison was a 525 match-up. You are correct, the 30' Phantom will not run 100mph (it is not in any of my posts) with a 525, but no one made that claim, nor did I make that claim. Re-read my post without inferences. |
Originally Posted by scarabman
(Post 3633983)
Do you have any real world data on that? Not trying to doubt what you are saying but I have been around a Phantom or 2 and there is no indication they are THAT fast?
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Originally Posted by Smarty
(Post 3633867)
My previous post never mentioned a 30' Phantom running 100 mph with a 525, that would indeed be BS. The comparison was a 525 match-up.
You are correct, the 30' Phantom will not run 100mph (it is not in any of my posts) with a 525, but no one made that claim, nor did I make that claim. Re-read my post without inferences. A 30' Phantom (the pleasure version) with 525 hp will run that fast, do some research. Fact not fiction. I would love to see a new 30' Phantom pleasure version race a 29' OL, both boats with an undoctored 525 Mercury motor; about a three or four mile drag race from a 50-60 mph start. |
Originally Posted by SS930
(Post 3634388)
Sorry, but the post before yours were talking about this 29 OL running 101+ (and I'm sure it will run more when dialed in), and then you stated:
And quite frankly I'd be stunned if a pleasure 30 Phantom with equal power will come close to matching the top speed of this OL. I didn't reply becuase too many are posting w/o knowing the facts. BTW, the 29extreme ran 82-83 w/ a 496HO. So none of these speeds are THAT out of line. |
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gorgeous boat - would love to see it in person
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Originally Posted by SS930
(Post 3634388)
Sorry, but the post before yours were talking about this 29 OL running 101+ (and I'm sure it will run more when dialed in), and then you stated:
And quite frankly I'd be stunned if a pleasure 30 Phantom with equal power will come close to matching the top speed of this OL. It is one nice looking boat (OL 29'). Stephen |
So why are they beaching this brand new boat?
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well walking a boat barley up in some sand is not going to do anything. the random time or 2 they do it. now powering on ne if differnt. and expecially in on a spo with shells, and rocks..
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Originally Posted by mittens
(Post 3634677)
well walking a boat barley up in some sand is not going to do anything. the random time or 2 they do it. now powering on ne if differnt. and expecially in on a spo with shells, and rocks..
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 3634868)
There are rocks and shells. Must be going to Havasu.:party-smiley-004:
and the havasu comment made me giggle. |
The running plug (heavy) for this ran close to 97MPH with a STOCK!! 525. This one will be running SVL this season. I hope to see an OL in race trim and of course the Fountain on the course at some point.
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forum...xcuse-Our-Dust. |
Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats
(Post 3635563)
The running plug (heavy) for this ran close to 97MPH with a STOCK!! 525. This one will be running SVL this season. I hope to see an OL in race trim and of course the Fountain on the course at some point.
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forum...xcuse-Our-Dust. |
Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats
(Post 3635563)
The running plug (heavy) for this ran close to 97MPH with a STOCK!! 525. This one will be running SVL this season. I hope to see an OL in race trim and of course the Fountain on the course at some point.
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forum...xcuse-Our-Dust. The 600 boat is at 100+ mph. |
Originally Posted by Smarty
(Post 3635764)
??? Refer to post 91 mph. It is fast, but 97 mph..., the horsepower fairy must have visited the boat since post # 91, and must have added some magical horsepower. It is was only running 87 mph then.
The 600 boat is at 100+ mph. Ambiguity on this thread is REDICULOUS! so many have taken speed numbers out of context, just cause they have not read the entire thread. |
Originally Posted by Smarty
(Post 3635764)
??? Refer to post 91 mph. It is fast, but 97 mph..., the horsepower fairy must have visited the boat since post # 91, and must have added some magical horsepower. It is was only running 87 mph then. Are you now referring to a third 29' OL boat?
The 600 boat is at 100+ mph. |
I think this 29 FT boat was a great move for Outerlimits. Way to boost production and attract a whole new audience with a smaller boat. Nice job guys. Any sold in our area Dan?
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Originally Posted by Whipple Charged
(Post 3635769)
No HP fairy, just further testing. The plug went 91mph with a 525hp efi engine, stock. The production tooling is of course nicer than the plug so when it gets tested, most of us can reasonably estimate the 525hp efi speed to be the same or better as the plug. There are plenty of these boats sold so most will see other numbers with other engine combos over the next year.
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3635765)
I think lauderdale boats is talking about the boat in that link.
Ambiguity on this thread is REDICULOUS! so many have taken speed numbers out of context, just cause they have not read the entire thread. |
Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3635765)
I think lauderdale boats is talking about the boat in that link.
Ambiguity on this thread is REDICULOUS! so many have taken speed numbers out of context, just cause they have not read the entire thread. |
Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
(Post 3620212)
I've had tons of interest in my boat for sale. Its priced just right. Your baja friends might not think its priced right........The guys driving cigarettes and skaters think its priced more than fair.
Physics? Do you know what torque steer is? Thats the problem with all big single engine boats..........torque steer. In general, most of the 28ft+ boats with single 500+hp are also plagued with out drive problems on a regular basis.........especially in rough water use......... which may be why OL and merc are rumored to not be getting along. Don't believe me go look at all the big powerd sabers, panteras, activators, etc. Their always fighting drive problems.......which makes for an unreliable boat IMO. I may be entirely wrong seeing that it doesn't appear to be a 29ft boat at all. I'm just throwing out words of caution. This boat could certainly be lightened enough to eliminate drive concerns and maximize speed by going to a bare bones cabin and super light layup, but really, at that point your much better off going with a 28 skater or the like. I don't have any problem with ya'll drinking the koolaid but I'm not going to be forcefed the utter BS coming out of the three plus threads on this boat just cause it has an OL on the side. I mean chit guys, you act like you never seen a bustle on the stern of a boat before..........OL puts one on a 28 to call it a 29 and you guys run around pretending its a revolutionary design. This boat isn't any more or less revolutionary than the deck design of the failed adrenaline 30 or the steps of the new 38 HyperSonic. Did I hear 90mph with the 525? If so this boat doesn't even match up to a superboat Y2K IMO, the superboat is two feet longer, has a useable cabin, and will run close to the same speeds with a 525, while costing the buyer almost half as much. The 29 warlock will run 100mph with 525 and cost half as much. So whats left? The shiny bezels and chrome? The paint job and colors that makes the entire boat useless in warm climates? Not for $100K over the competition......... |
Originally Posted by Indy
(Post 3626796)
Ain't that the fuggin truth :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3634402)
The post that Smarty was replying to implied the OL was running 100+ w/ the 525. I know I read it(and its gone now).
I didn't reply becuase too many are posting w/o knowing the facts. BTW, the 29extreme ran 82-83 w/ a 496HO. So none of these speeds are THAT out of line. |
Artie, maybe a bit narrower at 7th beam, but both boats would serve the same purpose... A 5 man sit-down low profile single purpose boat.
Cabin. Are you kidding? It's for holding your gear. Guy who just spent 200k on this boat, is sleeping in a hotel. How many guys sleep in thir MTIs and Skaters. |
Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3639780)
Artie, maybe a bit narrower at 7th beam, but both boats would serve the same purpose... A 5 man sit-down low profile single purpose boat.
Cabin. Are you kidding? It's for holding your gear. Guy who just spent 200k on this boat, is sleeping in a hotel. How many guys sleep in thir MTIs and Skaters. |
Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3639780)
Artie, maybe a bit narrower at 7th beam, but both boats would serve the same purpose... A 5 man sit-down low profile single purpose boat.
Cabin. Are you kidding? It's for holding your gear. Guy who just spent 200k on this boat, is sleeping in a hotel. How many guys sleep in thir MTIs and Skaters. Of course, mine wasnt anywhere close to $200k. |
Sleeping on the boat is not just a matter of not being able to afford a hotel room. Modern marinas like the ones at Cedar Point and PIB have first class facilities for boaters including air conditioned showers, stores, restaurants and best of all you get to spend the night with other boaters and enjoy your boat and the rocking and sound of the water. I will sleep on my boat over a hotel room and I don't even have a real cabin!!
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