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Old 02-16-2012 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PARADOX
Don't want to start a major argument, but do you know how many ways I could make contact with some one and no one would know it's me? I got "contacts" all the time form people "no affiliated " with some one else, and at the end of the day it was his/her son that called.
Anyrate. Just a few questions, (sorry if it's answered before) Why file in Broward? I thought Joey was still alive when he got out of the boat. (I seem to remember reading somethnig about injuries and he was breathing) not sure. This drowining just sounds fishy.
Filed in Broward so Mr. Allweis can be paid more for travel
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Old 02-16-2012 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
do you really think this suit will put an end to offshore racing in florida,i hope not,but with a law on the books that states sponsers can be held responsible,you may be right.
You'd be surprised... It put Smoke on the Water to sleep here in Michigan, that was an excellent event saw some great chopper footage of the last one ran
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Old 02-17-2012 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ajfisher
You'd be surprised... It put Smoke on the Water to sleep here in Michigan, that was an excellent event saw some great chopper footage of the last one ran
Yep it pretty much killed our event
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Old 02-17-2012 | 06:29 AM
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On a more light hearted note

I wrote some music lyrics (actualy i wrote two songs) for our last election and I just came across them again

I think Lawyers being law makers is a conflict of interest and this song speaks to that. It was fun to write and it still makes me smile when i bring it back up

(Verse)
Lawyers are liars and we can't get a break
they aren't really helping us it's about the money they make

So you say you slipped and fell got hurt on the street
give Sam a call and a settlement we will meet

It does not matter if you truly have been harmed
will sue someone for a leg and also an arm

WE don't need an excuse to place blame on others
when were done with this guy will just sue another

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me

(Verse)
Were you driving drunk and ran in to a wall
Pick up the phone you know who to call

We will blame the car or the beer for its attraction
if many have consumed it we will start a class action

We need to revolt against the lawyers money mission
but there is nowhere to turn most become a judge or politician

The rule when voting for your country's good health
don't vote in a lawyer you just increase their wealth

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me

(Verse)
We all know this country is in serious world trouble
the end is near as we sit watching the bubble
don't vote lawyers into office it only will go south
they only speak the truth when they don't open their mouth


Give them your money they will use it to campaign
Then become president and treat us with distain

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me

(Verse)
If you think they are there to help you out of your distress
they will just fuel the flames and make things a mess
It is always someone elses's fault that is their moto
They promice you answers and cash like you hit the loto

Other peoples money is there life's long mission
The bigger the pay off the bigger thier commission
So think twice before you vote for a new world leader
He might just be a leagle system bottom feeder

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me
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Old 02-17-2012 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by boatme
On a more light hearted note

I wrote some music lyrics (actualy i wrote two songs) for our last election and I just came across them again

I think Lawyers being law makers is a conflict of interest and this song speaks to that. It was fun to write and it still makes me smile when i bring it back up

(Verse)
Lawyers are liars and we can't get a break
they aren't really helping us it's about the money they make

So you say you slipped and fell got hurt on the street
give Sam a call and a settlement we will meet

It does not matter if you truly have been harmed
will sue someone for a leg and also an arm

WE don't need an excuse to place blame on others
when were done with this guy will just sue another

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me

(Verse)
Were you driving drunk and ran in to a wall
Pick up the phone you know who to call

We will blame the car or the beer for its attraction
if many have consumed it we will start a class action

We need to revolt against the lawyers money mission
but there is nowhere to turn most become a judge or politician

The rule when voting for your country's good health
don't vote in a lawyer you just increase their wealth

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me

(Verse)
We all know this country is in serious world trouble
the end is near as we sit watching the bubble
don't vote lawyers into office it only will go south
they only speak the truth when they don't open their mouth


Give them your money they will use it to campaign
Then become president and treat us with distain

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me

(Verse)
If you think they are there to help you out of your distress
they will just fuel the flames and make things a mess
It is always someone elses's fault that is their moto
They promice you answers and cash like you hit the loto

Other peoples money is there life's long mission
The bigger the pay off the bigger thier commission
So think twice before you vote for a new world leader
He might just be a leagle system bottom feeder

(Chorus)
Lawyers are liars they just want our money
It's always someone elses fault this just isn't funny
To be great in politics you need a law degree
I don't like their actions they don't represent me
Lawyers
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Old 02-17-2012 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom A.
What is being questioned is whether or not the sanctioning body did what it said it was going to do.
If SBI did everything they were supposed to, then all will be fine. (They should have disclosed it sooner to prevent this, perhaps.)
However, if they misled people and did NOT provide what they promised, then in reality the racers were not making an informed choice and that does cause a problem.
All racers know the inherent risks and that is not what is being questioned. What is in question is whether they had everything that they were expecting.
That is the best post on this thread yet in my opinion. I raced offshore for three years ('99, '00 & '01), and can tell you that there was a strong level of comfort that the divers "had my back". Did I look at them as being able to save me in any circumstance? No, but they were a good "safety net"....or "back up" plan. I liken it to skydiving. You know the potential for accidents, but you put a certain level of trust in the company that is taking you up, packed your chute, and went over all of the safety rules/recommendations. All of a sudden your main chute doesn't open, you expect for the back up/secondary chute to work right? What happens if the secondary chute doesn't open quick enough? The skydiving company said that it would be an extra level of safety....

I think those of you that are criticizing the Grattons are underestimating the family. I knew them very well when I raced and still think the world of them. In my opinion, they are suing to obtain factual data regarding the accident - something that hasn't been shared with them voluntarily. Just one man's thoughts and opinions.....
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Old 02-17-2012 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom1
That is the best post on this thread yet in my opinion. I raced offshore for three years ('99, '00 & '01), and can tell you that there was a strong level of comfort that the divers "had my back". Did I look at them as being able to save me in any circumstance? No, but they were a good "safety net"....or "back up" plan. I liken it to skydiving. You know the potential for accidents, but you put a certain level of trust in the company that is taking you up, packed your chute, and went over all of the safety rules/recommendations. All of a sudden your main chute doesn't open, you expect for the back up/secondary chute to work right? What happens if the secondary chute doesn't open quick enough? The skydiving company said that it would be an extra level of safety....

I think those of you that are criticizing the Grattons are underestimating the family. I knew them very well when I raced and still think the world of them. In my opinion, they are suing to obtain factual data regarding the accident - something that hasn't been shared with them voluntarily. Just one man's thoughts and opinions.....
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Old 02-17-2012 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ROTAX454
Does Florida have limitations to the percentage of the award that a trial attorney can receive? Just curious.
33% pre suit, 40% post lawsuit filing up to $1 mil, 30% up to $2 mil and 20% after that. I am admitted in Florida and practice PI.
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Old 02-17-2012 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom1
That is the best post on this thread yet in my opinion. I raced offshore for three years ('99, '00 & '01), and can tell you that there was a strong level of comfort that the divers "had my back". Did I look at them as being able to save me in any circumstance? No, but they were a good "safety net"....or "back up" plan. I liken it to skydiving. You know the potential for accidents, but you put a certain level of trust in the company that is taking you up, packed your chute, and went over all of the safety rules/recommendations. All of a sudden your main chute doesn't open, you expect for the back up/secondary chute to work right? What happens if the secondary chute doesn't open quick enough? The skydiving company said that it would be an extra level of safety....

I think those of you that are criticizing the Grattons are underestimating the family. I knew them very well when I raced and still think the world of them. In my opinion, they are suing to obtain factual data regarding the accident - something that hasn't been shared with them voluntarily. Just one man's thoughts and opinions.....
Factual data run the tape???Sad for the loss but this is about money belt cutter talk about put wood on the fire???
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Old 02-20-2012 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dhlaw
33% pre suit, 40% post lawsuit filing up to $1 mil, 30% up to $2 mil and 20% after that. I am admitted in Florida and practice PI.
Brett is one of the few good guys in this proffesion in my opinion
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