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Old 05-05-2012 | 09:18 AM
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I think if a potential buyer looking to go 100 mph and is willing to spend $200k they are going to buy a bigger boat that will also have a bigger resale market. Many manufactures got out of building 30' boats because the cost was the same to rig add cockpit,gauges shifters etc. The only thing smaller was the 4' or so of fiberglass in the nose. So what is the savings to the manufacture or to the consumer? $5,000- maybe $10,000.
Not exactly correct. I don't want a big boat anymore, nor do I want to spend the money on the power to move it, nor do I want to spend money on the gas it takes to move it through the water. I do want an easily trailerable boat, one that can fit inside my rack storage marina which is limited to 30'. I don't want tons of fiberglass to take care of, I don't want the bigger trailer nor do I want to put a boat in the driveway that's bigger than my house, nor do I want to purchase a monster truck engine in my truck to pull the boat up the hills in my area.

Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.

If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.

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Old 05-05-2012 | 09:43 AM
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Not exactly correct. I don't want a big boat anymore, nor do I want to spend the money on the power to move it, nor do I want to spend money on the gas it takes to move it through the water. I do want an easily trailerable boat, one that can fit inside my rack storage marina which is limited to 30'. I don't want tons of fiberglass to take care of, I don't want the bigger trailer nor do I want to put a boat in the driveway that's bigger than my house, nor do I want to purchase a monster truck engine in my truck to pull the boat up the hills in my area.

Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
I hear what you are saying here and sort of feel the same way. I recently sold my super clean 29 Outlaw so I could move up to a bigger wave crusher boat. I do almost all my boating in the ocean and while the Outlaw was a fantastic boat for me I don't need the big cabin and want a more solid boat.

So, looking at older straight hull Guns and Tigers and realized they take a lot of power to go and then you run into the drive problems. And the bigger truck issue.

So I'm not sure what to do size wise, stay in the 30-33 foot range or go big 38-42. Either way I'm buying used so maybe my situation is not relevant.

I will tell you this though, for what I'd pay for the new OL, I could buy a really nice used 38 footer and have a ton of money left over to buy a nice used truck, gas, maint, etc.

While the OL is gorgeous I think the market is very limited, especially if they don't have a twin engine option.
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Old 05-05-2012 | 10:06 AM
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I hear what you are saying here and sort of feel the same way. I recently sold my super clean 29 Outlaw so I could move up to a bigger wave crusher boat. I do almost all my boating in the ocean and while the Outlaw was a fantastic boat for me I don't need the big cabin and want a more solid boat.

So, looking at older straight hull Guns and Tigers and realized they take a lot of power to go and then you run into the drive problems. And the bigger truck issue.

So I'm not sure what to do size wise, stay in the 30-33 foot range or go big 38-42. Either way I'm buying used so maybe my situation is not relevant.

I will tell you this though, for what I'd pay for the new OL, I could buy a really nice used 38 footer and have a ton of money left over to buy a nice used truck, gas, maint, etc.

While the OL is gorgeous I think the market is very limited, especially if they don't have a twin engine option.
Baja, yes for the money you can get a bigger boat. But from my perspective which is an "aging" perspective, big is just a giant pain in the arse anymore. Agree with the limited market, but if they booked their production year, then it's a good decision for them. Maybe it wouldn't work with another manufacturer but no question this year it's a win for OL.

One thing is for sure, this new boat has received more attention than any other new release I can remember in a long time...something's really right about that!!!
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Old 05-05-2012 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Indy
Baja, yes for the money you can get a bigger boat. But from my perspective which is an "aging" perspective, big is just a giant pain in the arse anymore. Agree with the limited market, but if they booked their production year, then it's a good decision for them. Maybe it wouldn't work with another manufacturer but no question this year it's a win for OL.

One thing is for sure, this new boat has received more attention than any other new release I can remember in a long time...something's really right about that!!!
Indy,

The "aging perspective" you mention is something Mike Fiore touches on in the article about the SV29 in the summer issue of Sportboat, which (enter shameless plug) goes on sale in a couple of weeks. Short story: He agrees.

As for this thread, without question it's a little silly but it's fun and entertaining, and has spawned a lot of good points, most of them off topic.
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Old 05-05-2012 | 10:56 AM
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If you have lots of $$ and lots of toys, this new Ol would be another fun toy to add to your collection. But, if you are on a budget and want to get your money's worth, you would be crazy not to go for a nice pre-owned boat for $200k or under.
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Old 05-05-2012 | 11:05 AM
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The "aging perspective" you mention is something Mike Fiore touches on in the article about the SV29 in the summer issue of Sportboat, which (enter shameless plug) goes on sale in a couple of weeks. Short story: He agrees.

As for this thread, without question it's a little silly but it's fun and entertaining, and has spawned a lot of good points, most of them off topic.
Matt...I think it's valid, not just from my perspective but from the general perspective of the hobby. Many of us that dreamed about these boats, finally purchased them, went through the "3 foot-itess" and have been there done that just want to get back to basics (if you can say a 28' high performace boat is basic) and enjoy the time on the water without the hassle or expense of the big ones. That's one reason I'm looking at outboards for my next purchase, maybe the manufacturers will look to those power options too since there's a portion of the boating population that's not big on crawling around a bilge anymore.
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Matt.........you could not be so CORRECT..............THANKS BUDDY !

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Old 05-05-2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy
Not exactly correct. I don't want a big boat anymore, nor do I want to spend the money on the power to move it, nor do I want to spend money on the gas it takes to move it through the water. I do want an easily trailerable boat, one that can fit inside my rack storage marina which is limited to 30'. I don't want tons of fiberglass to take care of, I don't want the bigger trailer nor do I want to put a boat in the driveway that's bigger than my house, nor do I want to purchase a monster truck engine in my truck to pull the boat up the hills in my area.

Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.

If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.
I agree with many of your points but the question I have is will you spend $200,000 plus tax for one of these. For the people I talk with who do downsize they want less of everything including cost and again the aging market folks probably care more about user friendly then 100mph. OL has done a great job of building quality, fast and high market price tags I just am not sure there is a big market. We will find out what the market bears in 2 years I guess. Although not really for me it seems the againg population and downsizer wants a center counsel boat the price points are decent many manufactures and size choices. Agai. Just my opinion.
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Old 05-05-2012 | 01:17 PM
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Personally, I don't care about the top speed. What I would be really interested in knowing is how the OL runs in the ocean in say, 3 to 4's.

Has it been run in the ocean? I'd love to see it run to Catalina and back or up and down the coast for a 100 miles in some snotty stuff!
It handles like nothing I've been in before. It flys very evenly, the CG is darn near perfect with the interior in it. Like the race boats that have nothing in them, it flys neutral therefore it does not have the nose high and fly up, nor does it ride with bow down and crash. Therefore, in the ocean, it just coast off the 3-4 and lands comfortably neutral.

It was built and tested in the ocean, OL is 5 minutes from the ocean. If there is anyboat that handles big water, its an OL. Thats one guarantee from the first boat to the boats built now, they take the big water with the best of any performance boat. Even in all its races, when it was rough, they destroyed the competition.
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Originally Posted by Indy
Not exactly correct. I don't want a big boat anymore, nor do I want to spend the money on the power to move it, nor do I want to spend money on the gas it takes to move it through the water. I do want an easily trailerable boat, one that can fit inside my rack storage marina which is limited to 30'. I don't want tons of fiberglass to take care of, I don't want the bigger trailer nor do I want to put a boat in the driveway that's bigger than my house, nor do I want to purchase a monster truck engine in my truck to pull the boat up the hills in my area.

Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.

If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.
Very nice post and I agree 100%. There's plenty of customers who have run the cycle of going bigger and bigger every 2 years and want to go back to a less complicated smaller boat. The fact that we put nearly 100 miles on the boat in 2 days and only used 32 gallons, had no trouble docking, no trouble keeping up with most, towed with a regular Chevy, no trouble putting in from the trailer, had 5 people comfortably and all the beer we could drink was pretty awesome.
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