OL vs Fountain Single Engine Vee Challenge
#101
I think if a potential buyer looking to go 100 mph and is willing to spend $200k they are going to buy a bigger boat that will also have a bigger resale market. Many manufactures got out of building 30' boats because the cost was the same to rig add cockpit,gauges shifters etc. The only thing smaller was the 4' or so of fiberglass in the nose. So what is the savings to the manufacture or to the consumer? $5,000- maybe $10,000.
Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.
Last edited by Indy; 05-05-2012 at 09:35 AM.
#102
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Not exactly correct. I don't want a big boat anymore, nor do I want to spend the money on the power to move it, nor do I want to spend money on the gas it takes to move it through the water. I do want an easily trailerable boat, one that can fit inside my rack storage marina which is limited to 30'. I don't want tons of fiberglass to take care of, I don't want the bigger trailer nor do I want to put a boat in the driveway that's bigger than my house, nor do I want to purchase a monster truck engine in my truck to pull the boat up the hills in my area.
Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
So, looking at older straight hull Guns and Tigers and realized they take a lot of power to go and then you run into the drive problems. And the bigger truck issue.
So I'm not sure what to do size wise, stay in the 30-33 foot range or go big 38-42. Either way I'm buying used so maybe my situation is not relevant.
I will tell you this though, for what I'd pay for the new OL, I could buy a really nice used 38 footer and have a ton of money left over to buy a nice used truck, gas, maint, etc.
While the OL is gorgeous I think the market is very limited, especially if they don't have a twin engine option.
#103
I hear what you are saying here and sort of feel the same way. I recently sold my super clean 29 Outlaw so I could move up to a bigger wave crusher boat. I do almost all my boating in the ocean and while the Outlaw was a fantastic boat for me I don't need the big cabin and want a more solid boat.
So, looking at older straight hull Guns and Tigers and realized they take a lot of power to go and then you run into the drive problems. And the bigger truck issue.
So I'm not sure what to do size wise, stay in the 30-33 foot range or go big 38-42. Either way I'm buying used so maybe my situation is not relevant.
I will tell you this though, for what I'd pay for the new OL, I could buy a really nice used 38 footer and have a ton of money left over to buy a nice used truck, gas, maint, etc.
While the OL is gorgeous I think the market is very limited, especially if they don't have a twin engine option.
So, looking at older straight hull Guns and Tigers and realized they take a lot of power to go and then you run into the drive problems. And the bigger truck issue.
So I'm not sure what to do size wise, stay in the 30-33 foot range or go big 38-42. Either way I'm buying used so maybe my situation is not relevant.
I will tell you this though, for what I'd pay for the new OL, I could buy a really nice used 38 footer and have a ton of money left over to buy a nice used truck, gas, maint, etc.
While the OL is gorgeous I think the market is very limited, especially if they don't have a twin engine option.
One thing is for sure, this new boat has received more attention than any other new release I can remember in a long time...something's really right about that!!!
#104
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Baja, yes for the money you can get a bigger boat. But from my perspective which is an "aging" perspective, big is just a giant pain in the arse anymore. Agree with the limited market, but if they booked their production year, then it's a good decision for them. Maybe it wouldn't work with another manufacturer but no question this year it's a win for OL.
One thing is for sure, this new boat has received more attention than any other new release I can remember in a long time...something's really right about that!!!
One thing is for sure, this new boat has received more attention than any other new release I can remember in a long time...something's really right about that!!!
The "aging perspective" you mention is something Mike Fiore touches on in the article about the SV29 in the summer issue of Sportboat, which (enter shameless plug) goes on sale in a couple of weeks. Short story: He agrees.
As for this thread, without question it's a little silly but it's fun and entertaining, and has spawned a lot of good points, most of them off topic.
#105
If you have lots of $$ and lots of toys, this new Ol would be another fun toy to add to your collection. But, if you are on a budget and want to get your money's worth, you would be crazy not to go for a nice pre-owned boat for $200k or under.
#106
Indy,
The "aging perspective" you mention is something Mike Fiore touches on in the article about the SV29 in the summer issue of Sportboat, which (enter shameless plug) goes on sale in a couple of weeks. Short story: He agrees.
As for this thread, without question it's a little silly but it's fun and entertaining, and has spawned a lot of good points, most of them off topic.
The "aging perspective" you mention is something Mike Fiore touches on in the article about the SV29 in the summer issue of Sportboat, which (enter shameless plug) goes on sale in a couple of weeks. Short story: He agrees.
As for this thread, without question it's a little silly but it's fun and entertaining, and has spawned a lot of good points, most of them off topic.
#108
Not exactly correct. I don't want a big boat anymore, nor do I want to spend the money on the power to move it, nor do I want to spend money on the gas it takes to move it through the water. I do want an easily trailerable boat, one that can fit inside my rack storage marina which is limited to 30'. I don't want tons of fiberglass to take care of, I don't want the bigger trailer nor do I want to put a boat in the driveway that's bigger than my house, nor do I want to purchase a monster truck engine in my truck to pull the boat up the hills in my area.
Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.
Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.
#109
Personally, I don't care about the top speed. What I would be really interested in knowing is how the OL runs in the ocean in say, 3 to 4's.
Has it been run in the ocean? I'd love to see it run to Catalina and back or up and down the coast for a 100 miles in some snotty stuff!
Has it been run in the ocean? I'd love to see it run to Catalina and back or up and down the coast for a 100 miles in some snotty stuff!
It was built and tested in the ocean, OL is 5 minutes from the ocean. If there is anyboat that handles big water, its an OL. Thats one guarantee from the first boat to the boats built now, they take the big water with the best of any performance boat. Even in all its races, when it was rough, they destroyed the competition.
#110
Not exactly correct. I don't want a big boat anymore, nor do I want to spend the money on the power to move it, nor do I want to spend money on the gas it takes to move it through the water. I do want an easily trailerable boat, one that can fit inside my rack storage marina which is limited to 30'. I don't want tons of fiberglass to take care of, I don't want the bigger trailer nor do I want to put a boat in the driveway that's bigger than my house, nor do I want to purchase a monster truck engine in my truck to pull the boat up the hills in my area.
Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.
Your point is understood but some just don't want a huge chunk of fiberglass. This boat can handle the Sound just perfect for me although I'd like to see a twin SBC or twin outboards version since I'm not keen on singles anymore.
If I'm not mistaken OL is booked for the production run of 29's for the year, looks like a good business decision for this economic mess we're going through.



