Where does $225k come from? Performance Boat Center in LOTO has one for $199k. You can't pack this much engineering, performance, stability, handling, weight, style in a lot more affordable boat unless you tooled up for mass qty which the market will not currently support. The lay up, the strength, its not like any other boat. There's not a creak, squeak, rattle anywhere in this boat. All those annoying sounds after after every bump, its non-exsistent.

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Take the time and do some measurements then come and see me. from bow to stern the steps on the skater and outer limits are very very close in proximity. Not identical but close. So maybe they didnt copy per say but they sure did take some measurements and duplicate the bottom.

As for handling I think you have to look at some of the race boats and see that Nigel didnt have the problem with the race boat, spiderman, geico so maybe some people who cant run them had an issue. However we do know the outerlimits of nigels spins out going strait. Also Sgro and mike spun that boat out a bunch. However, I do believe outerlimits builds a very light and strong boat. A wonderful product. This was a opinion on fountain and outerlimits. I just was saying that lets compare apples to apples. Pound for pound motor for motor.

"Your right Downtown.......you don't. It's a handful.
On the last run, I was at 134 and pulling good when it got out of shape and I had to lift. Went all the way down to 105 to get it to settle down, then back in the gas up to 126. You can't hold it over 130 for long. The slightest little thing will upset it and you CAN"T drive through it. It will just get worse until you slow down. It's really good up to 130, but then, it's who knows.
We just had a rough weekend. Whatever could have went wrong did. I'm not making any excuses and certainly not taking anything away from Dennis and Jason Parvey. They ran their a$$ off and deserve it. They were better than us this weekend. I ran quite a bit faster than recorded but that's all part of it. I don't have any regrets. We had a blast and we will be back. Again, congrats to Dennis and Jason.
Eddie"

To quote eddie...

Thanks Dustin....

The Skater vee is not a good running boat, warlock, you're joking right....go look at all the single step boats, the multi step failures, either you get it right, or you don't. I guess everyone steals everyone's designs...if you like the skater vee so much, go buy one...

It's amazing the bench racing that goes on here....how many skater vees were built anyway..I don't think they have a ton...

I've looked at them, quite a few times, and there really not even close, nor is close to whats coming. I mean, I guess they are both V bottoms....

Furthermore, your refering to lower horsepower boats, race only. What pleasure 399 runs without handling issues? How much power did those race boats have? The OL's can stack 6 in it on saturady for a poker run and race on sunday. Dual 700hp or 1600hp, still works. Where are all these pleasure boat 399's?

As for spinning out, are you refering to years ago in the 40 or something because I'm unaware of any spinning? Mike has never spun an OL out, never. There was one 43 that spun a a straghit because the power steering line came off and failed and they lost steering. I've worked on all the SV43 race boats at every race and I have no idea what your talking about. You might be refering to the Kiton OL but that was more driver than boat. Our dear friend Giancarlo is a bit more agressive than most in the turns, hell, he even barrell rolled his Donzi a few years back.

Skater makes one of the best cats built, and thats what they specialize in. It takes a lot of time, testing and resources to make these boats better and better which is something I see Skater constantly doing on the cats, but not the V's.

I like to see yu at least admit that driver comes into play. As with any boat. I was refering to the videos on youtube.

Yup, but even some of the best drivers in the world can't help something thats got a chine from hell.

Fountains always beat Outerlimits what would be the suprise?

I like the thread Tim.

hmmm.....

Given a chance that the Fountain would win some sort of race, who in the right mind would want a 29 Fountain over a 29 OuterLimits? Two totally different technologies, two totally different buyers.