Price of Oil Falls 4% in a few hours ????
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If you as most people in the USA who have to or want to buy gas for transportation or recreation with tight shrinking budgets hopefully can understand is that stupid ineffective politics and government assistance in manipulating this commodities pricing its not politics that is really DRIVING THIS TRAIN, its a much more greedy sinister power base of traders and BIG oil comapnaies who are at the the throttles and drving this train of our econmy and as I and others say all the time on this TRAIN trip ,"watch that curve ahead" this TRAIN can jump the tracks and crash our economy and future in what will be one of the biggets TRAIN WRECKS of all time.
Just ask yourself one question and then try to answer that question with some logic. If the price of oil as traded spikes up $10-$15 dollars a barrel in one week or so and the price of gasoline spikes up in that same persiod by $1.00 a gallon or so and then the price of oil drops as it has $10 or so a barrel in a week or so as it has and the price of gasoline only comes down a few cents a week. Are politics or government at that point responsible for that inequity in the prices? Or is it just the oil and gas industry taking advantage of the consumers and users for huge dailey billion dollar profits from a monopoly controlled product and market?
Lets put the mark on the root villians here and not just let this economic danger get lost in the argument over politics.
Could our government do a better job of not supporting this type of market and price manipulation, YOU BET !
Doing something about it, ONLY IF WE ELECT LEADERSHIP WHO IS REALLY FOR FAIRNESS AND THE WELL BEING OF OUR GREAT NATION AND ITS PEOPLE AND ECONOMY .
"Look into the Forest and see the Trees !"
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Just ask yourself one question and then try to answer that question with some logic. If the price of oil as traded spikes up $10-$15 dollars a barrel in one week or so and the price of gasoline spikes up in that same persiod by $1.00 a gallon or so and then the price of oil drops as it has $10 or so a barrel in a week or so as it has and the price of gasoline only comes down a few cents a week. Are politics or government at that point responsible for that inequity in the prices? Or is it just the oil and gas industry taking advantage of the consumers and users for huge dailey billion dollar profits from a monopoly controlled product and market?
Lets put the mark on the root villians here and not just let this economic danger get lost in the argument over politics.
Could our government do a better job of not supporting this type of market and price manipulation, YOU BET !
Doing something about it, ONLY IF WE ELECT LEADERSHIP WHO IS REALLY FOR FAIRNESS AND THE WELL BEING OF OUR GREAT NATION AND ITS PEOPLE AND ECONOMY .
"Look into the Forest and see the Trees !"
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
What exactly is the Ray plan for lowering energy prices? Vote for Fair candidates? Vote for more government control of the oil industry? Vote for more government control of the energy markets?
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You don't actually think the higher prices we are paying for gasoline are tied directly to the cost of oil as traded as a commodity do you? If you do then big oil has you right where they want you , helpless, naieve and misinformed and perfectly brainwashed!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
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MY Plan?
Not egotistical to think my ideas or plans are the answer, even important or correct enough to cure whats wrong!
But I do have my beliefs and they are:
1. Support and elect only pubic servants not politicians!
2. Put campaign reform and campaign spending reform in place immediatly!
3. Limit the access and influence of over the top special interest lobbying and graft that takes place in Washington today!
4.TAKE THE OIL AND PETROLEUM PRODUCTS MARKETS AND PUT THE TRUE LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND BACK INTO PLAY!
5. Have the oil industry explain logically and truly why the price of gasoline can go up so quickly when oil speculation spikes the market and why it comes down so slowly or not as much when when speculation and oil pricing comes down so fast? (I and others know there is only one answer to that question)
6. Lastly, We must improve the product of our educational system, protect our freedoms, repair and replentish all our economic markets, eliminate balloning debt, stop the loss of jobs, increase disposable income spending in all sectors of consumers, try to restore and grow our middle class, stop wasteful government spending, overregulation, stupid legislation and create an enviroment of thinking in this country where fairness is the the outcome from good ethics, fair business and markets and not the just retoric!
Sorry if you fell otherwise possibly, that's your right ,freedom and choice. We don't have to agree about the oil markets, possibly you have a strong vested interest there that skewes your views?
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Not egotistical to think my ideas or plans are the answer, even important or correct enough to cure whats wrong!
But I do have my beliefs and they are:
1. Support and elect only pubic servants not politicians!
2. Put campaign reform and campaign spending reform in place immediatly!
3. Limit the access and influence of over the top special interest lobbying and graft that takes place in Washington today!
4.TAKE THE OIL AND PETROLEUM PRODUCTS MARKETS AND PUT THE TRUE LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND BACK INTO PLAY!
5. Have the oil industry explain logically and truly why the price of gasoline can go up so quickly when oil speculation spikes the market and why it comes down so slowly or not as much when when speculation and oil pricing comes down so fast? (I and others know there is only one answer to that question)
6. Lastly, We must improve the product of our educational system, protect our freedoms, repair and replentish all our economic markets, eliminate balloning debt, stop the loss of jobs, increase disposable income spending in all sectors of consumers, try to restore and grow our middle class, stop wasteful government spending, overregulation, stupid legislation and create an enviroment of thinking in this country where fairness is the the outcome from good ethics, fair business and markets and not the just retoric!
Sorry if you fell otherwise possibly, that's your right ,freedom and choice. We don't have to agree about the oil markets, possibly you have a strong vested interest there that skewes your views?
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
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We're on the other side of Peak Oil so energy prices, except for a temporary $.05 drop in pump prices every now and then, are going nowhere but UP.
Government control of oil companies-you mean like BP, which destroyed the Gulf fishing industry and hasn't paid its $20,000,000,000 fine yet? Or TransCanada which was blessed by Bush with the permits to construct its oil pipeline to Houston so its oil can be refined there and shipped all over the world except here in America? Did you know that TransCanada can use, and is using, Eminent Domain to steal American people's land who didn't want that pipeline to go through their land?
I'm pissed that Obama is caving into the oil companies and allowing this pipeline to be built. It's not going to drop energy prices for America, and the danger of spills into aquifers will be ever-present. It's bad for America.
Government control of oil companies-you mean like BP, which destroyed the Gulf fishing industry and hasn't paid its $20,000,000,000 fine yet? Or TransCanada which was blessed by Bush with the permits to construct its oil pipeline to Houston so its oil can be refined there and shipped all over the world except here in America? Did you know that TransCanada can use, and is using, Eminent Domain to steal American people's land who didn't want that pipeline to go through their land?
I'm pissed that Obama is caving into the oil companies and allowing this pipeline to be built. It's not going to drop energy prices for America, and the danger of spills into aquifers will be ever-present. It's bad for America.
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we're on the other side of peak oil so energy prices, except for a temporary $.05 drop in pump prices every now and then, are going nowhere but up.
Government control of oil companies-you mean like bp, which destroyed the gulf fishing industry and hasn't paid its $20,000,000,000 fine yet? Or transcanada which was blessed by bush with the permits to construct its oil pipeline to houston so its oil can be refined there and shipped all over the world except here in america? Did you know that transcanada can use, and is using, eminent domain to steal american people's land who didn't want that pipeline to go through their land? I'm pissed that obama is caving into the oil companies and allowing this pipeline to be built.
Government control of oil companies-you mean like bp, which destroyed the gulf fishing industry and hasn't paid its $20,000,000,000 fine yet? Or transcanada which was blessed by bush with the permits to construct its oil pipeline to houston so its oil can be refined there and shipped all over the world except here in america? Did you know that transcanada can use, and is using, eminent domain to steal american people's land who didn't want that pipeline to go through their land? I'm pissed that obama is caving into the oil companies and allowing this pipeline to be built.
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MY Plan?
Not egotistical to think my ideas ro plans are the answer, even important or correct enough to cure whats wrong!
But I do have my beliefs and they are:
1. Support and elect only pubic servants not politicians!
2. Put campaign reform and campaign spending reform in place immediatly!
3. Limit the access and influence of over the top special interest lobbying and graft that takes place in Washington today!
4.TAKE THE OIL AND PETROLEUM PRODUCTS MARKETS AND PUT THE TRUE LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND BACK INTO PLAY!
5. Have the oil industry explain logically and truly why the price of gasoline can go up so quickly when oil speculation spikes the market and why it comes down so slow or not as much when when speculation and oil pricing comes down so fast? (I and others know there is only one answer to that question)
6. Lastly, We must improve the product of our educational system, protect our freedoms, repair and replentish all our economic markets, eliminate balloning debt, stop the loss of jobs, increase disposable income spending in all sectors of consumers, try to restore and grow our middle class, stop wasteful government spending, overregulation, stupid legislation and create an enviroment of thinking in this country where fairness is the the outcome from good ethics, fair business and markets and not the just retoric!
Sorry if you fell otherwise possibly, that's your right ,freedom and choice. We don't have to agree about the oil markets, possibly you have a strong vested interest there that skewes your views?
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Not egotistical to think my ideas ro plans are the answer, even important or correct enough to cure whats wrong!
But I do have my beliefs and they are:
1. Support and elect only pubic servants not politicians!
2. Put campaign reform and campaign spending reform in place immediatly!
3. Limit the access and influence of over the top special interest lobbying and graft that takes place in Washington today!
4.TAKE THE OIL AND PETROLEUM PRODUCTS MARKETS AND PUT THE TRUE LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND BACK INTO PLAY!
5. Have the oil industry explain logically and truly why the price of gasoline can go up so quickly when oil speculation spikes the market and why it comes down so slow or not as much when when speculation and oil pricing comes down so fast? (I and others know there is only one answer to that question)
6. Lastly, We must improve the product of our educational system, protect our freedoms, repair and replentish all our economic markets, eliminate balloning debt, stop the loss of jobs, increase disposable income spending in all sectors of consumers, try to restore and grow our middle class, stop wasteful government spending, overregulation, stupid legislation and create an enviroment of thinking in this country where fairness is the the outcome from good ethics, fair business and markets and not the just retoric!
Sorry if you fell otherwise possibly, that's your right ,freedom and choice. We don't have to agree about the oil markets, possibly you have a strong vested interest there that skewes your views?
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
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really guys............
other than those of you making more than a couple hundred thousand, lets be real hoinest here and admit the the government, wealthly f#$kers and most furtune 500 companies are in complete control of what happens.
niether the black prez or robovulturefund guy will change anything that will make your lives better.
so please get back to talking about how great offshore racing isn't or licking the balls of some wealth dumbazz that cant even drive the boat that he just paid millions to have, so he can say he's got the coolest and fastest pokerrun boat.
freedom !!!!!!!!!! to work and pay taxes for the common guy. other than that its completely rigged.
other than those of you making more than a couple hundred thousand, lets be real hoinest here and admit the the government, wealthly f#$kers and most furtune 500 companies are in complete control of what happens.
niether the black prez or robovulturefund guy will change anything that will make your lives better.
so please get back to talking about how great offshore racing isn't or licking the balls of some wealth dumbazz that cant even drive the boat that he just paid millions to have, so he can say he's got the coolest and fastest pokerrun boat.
freedom !!!!!!!!!! to work and pay taxes for the common guy. other than that its completely rigged.
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really guys............
other than those of you making more than a couple hundred thousand, lets be real hoinest here and admit the the government, wealthly f#$kers and most furtune 500 companies are in complete control of what happens.
niether the black prez or robovulturefund guy will change anything that will make your lives better.
so please get back to talking about how great offshore racing isn't or licking the balls of some wealth dumbazz that cant even drive the boat that he just paid millions to have, so he can say he's got the coolest and fastest pokerrun boat.
freedom !!!!!!!!!! to work and pay taxes for the common guy. other than that its completely rigged.
other than those of you making more than a couple hundred thousand, lets be real hoinest here and admit the the government, wealthly f#$kers and most furtune 500 companies are in complete control of what happens.
niether the black prez or robovulturefund guy will change anything that will make your lives better.
so please get back to talking about how great offshore racing isn't or licking the balls of some wealth dumbazz that cant even drive the boat that he just paid millions to have, so he can say he's got the coolest and fastest pokerrun boat.
freedom !!!!!!!!!! to work and pay taxes for the common guy. other than that its completely rigged.
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What about changing the rules on buying and selling energy so that you actually have to take delivery of it or pay for storage/transportation? That would bring supply/demand back into play.
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The way to fight this is by removing the entrenched Elitists , Lugar’s demise surprised and shocked those boys at the Senate “Club” , just have to go down the ballot and vote out ALL the lifetime DC Stooges . Oil , Once we start bringing more on line , the price will fall .
and in another 4 yrs from now gas will be higher along with local and state taxes, milk and bread will be more and my wages will still be stagnant.
we're being scammed every day. read up on the bank de-regulation Jobs Act which both parties passed ever so quitely. and then look at todays head line. JP looses $2 b. the only thing they left out was the part about JP borrowing the money from the FED for nothing.