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TexomaPowerboater 05-16-2012 09:17 AM

Glad everyone is OK.

302Sport 05-16-2012 09:25 AM

My active thunder had the same exact thing happen to it and according to the experts on here, it wasn't worth putting back together. So, what's your opinions on resale value of this submarine??

offshorexcursion 05-16-2012 09:28 AM

Glad everyone in and around the boat are ok

Does anyone else notice a problem with orange and black boats:party-smiley-004:

WildThing47 05-16-2012 09:31 AM

From what I heard, there was no structural damage. Glad everyone involved is OK, that's what's important!

WildThing47 05-16-2012 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Pokher Ace (Post 3688564)
What a shame, here is a pic from the news link. Looks to be ok

Outside of the windshield, the boat looks perfect.

Twin O/B Sonic 05-16-2012 09:42 AM

Not throwing stones on my end.
#1 thing for me was reading that crew was fine.
#2 knew it was brand new design and assumed builders/owners in control
#3 also assumed testing........., that's where we learn what the hull wants and where we find the limit or edge.

Some times when you get to that edge, you slip past it.
Gorgeous design and waiting to see what it can/will do.

stainless 05-16-2012 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by 43sv (Post 3688267)
Everone is fine. I am sure this post will have many storys, but only one tru story. Indicator on tab did not show proper display (new L.E.D. type) Doesnt take much to go over with a fast single engine boat.

This is accurate:ernaehrung004:

WildThing47 05-16-2012 12:22 PM

+1

BobbyB 05-16-2012 12:34 PM

Glad everyone is ok. I made some friends with the guys up there a few weeks ago.

Young Performance 05-16-2012 12:34 PM

We just had a problem with the new LED indicators on the new 39 Hustler Rockit. The guys at Hustler fought that thing for a couple of days trying to get it to work right. THey played hell with that thing. Still not sure if they ever got it worked out.
Eddie

WildThing47 05-16-2012 01:06 PM

I'll take cables any day...

Gladhe8er 05-16-2012 01:26 PM

Take this for what it's worth...

http://midwestboatparty.com/forum/sh...-Roll&p=543343

Unlimited jd 05-16-2012 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3689006)
i'll take cables any day...

+1

OldSchool 05-16-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Gladhe8er (Post 3689019)

So... It sounds like chris sunkin is still the Chuck Norris of all things offshore with three ejections under his belt!!!! LMFAO
Once again, glad that all are OK :)

110 is an incredible number for a single engine boat with only 600HP!!! Dang!

GRH 05-16-2012 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3689030)
110 is an incredible number for a single engine boat with only 600HP!!! Dang!

I can think of another word for it.....

Unbelievable!

Sydwayz 05-16-2012 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3688796)
My active thunder had the same exact thing happen to it and according to the experts on here, it wasn't worth putting back together. So, what's your opinions on resale value of this submarine??

Your boat was stolen and rolled by an inexperienced driver, after it hit a sandbar. It was also 6 plus years old, sitting for at least one of those years untouched after the incident. There were newer turn key boats for sale that were cheaper than the dollars needed to put yours back together.

Very different situation here on the 29 Outerlimits.

I'm curious how fast it was going and what water conditions it was in when it rolled. It obviously didnt go over at 100+, else it would look worse than that.

I agree with the sentiments on old school indicators. Technology is great until it introduces risk that we cannot mitigate.

And most important, very glad to hear that no one was hurt. That water had to be cold though!

Strip Poker 388 05-16-2012 04:29 PM

Glad there OK. Sure is a sleek looking boat,looks longer that 29.

Comanche3Six 05-16-2012 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 3689146)
Glad there OK. Sure is a sleek looking boat,looks longer that 29.

Ditto!

TexomaPowerboater 05-16-2012 04:49 PM

“We weren’t going very fast,” Mr. Makepeace said, as he was being tended to by medical personnel. “We just kind of caught a wave.”

http://www.eastbayri.com/news/2012/may/15/boat-flip/

I think the tab indicator malfunction is a convenient excuse. A light single engine boat like that you should be able to know were the tabs are blindfolded.

thirdchildhood 05-16-2012 05:35 PM

Plenty of us are driving fast singles with NO tab indicators. That's a lame excuse for flipping a boat. The bad wave theory sounds more likely.

Whipple Charged 05-16-2012 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3689030)
So... It sounds like chris sunkin is still the Chuck Norris of all things offshore with three ejections under his belt!!!! LMFAO
Once again, glad that all are OK :)

110 is an incredible number for a single engine boat with only 600HP!!! Dang!

103mph at 600hp. Still was playing with props to get the last 1-2mph out of it.

The main thing is that everyone is ok, no injuries and other than the windshield and hatch, the boat suffered no damage. It will be back on the water soon and you bet it will have mechanical indicators.

39 Unlimited 05-16-2012 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic (Post 3688811)
Not throwing stones on my end.
#1 thing for me was reading that crew was fine.
#2 knew it was brand new design and assumed builders/owners in control
#3 also assumed testing........., that's where we learn what the hull wants and where we find the limit or edge.

Some times when you get to that edge, you slip past it.
Gorgeous design and waiting to see what it can/will do.

Well said. I saw this boat at the Miami Boat Show and honestly it didn't look like a boat that should be running over 100 mph.

Unlimited jd 05-16-2012 06:28 PM

The bay has been flat all week, but it's gets tricky one wave off a cruiser or fishing boat will bounce off shore and come back out

socalstone 05-16-2012 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by 39 Unlimited (Post 3689217)
... it didn't look like a boat that should be running over 100 mph.

what makes you think that?

mikes280 05-16-2012 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3689156)
“We weren’t going very fast,” Mr. Makepeace said, as he was being tended to by medical personnel. “We just kind of caught a wave.”

http://www.eastbayri.com/news/2012/may/15/boat-flip/

I think the tab indicator malfunction is a convenient excuse. A light single engine boat like that you should be able to know were the tabs are blindfolded.

don't totally agree here , right after i put the big power in mine i had been riding with the wife at about 45 mph in my boat at that speed i tend to drag a little port tab to counter the tq of prop and motor . Had a friend come by on the wood so i layed in to it hard got the boat up on the pad pulling a 32 pitch to over 6000 rpm you do the math. All was good until i backed of a little and let the boat down when it hit that tab it went in to a sever chine walk un like i had ever seen , i knew we were about to get wet i had time to tell the wife to duck down and hold on. I got the boat settled down but we were shook up and after we stopped I looked down at the tabs to see what that i had left that tab down. Now i set the level with the bottom of the boat or all the way up when water will allow but never drag one when running hard.

Sbarberdds 05-16-2012 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3688796)
My active thunder had the same exact thing happen to it and according to the experts on here, it wasn't worth putting back together. So, what's your opinions on resale value of this submarine??

Its a factory demo, im positive they wont be selling it as new, they will ix it if it can be and list it as factory reconditioned at a large discount, like half price at best

stainless 05-16-2012 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3689156)
“We weren’t going very fast,” Mr. Makepeace said, as he was being tended to by medical personnel. “We just kind of caught a wave.”

http://www.eastbayri.com/news/2012/may/15/boat-flip/

I think the tab indicator malfunction is a convenient excuse. A light single engine boat like that you should be able to know were the tabs are blindfolded.

I'm glad you know more than mike! :lolhit:

Sbarberdds 05-16-2012 06:56 PM

Was it trim indicators or a bad wave as the article quoted one of the passengers, does it go 110 or 103mph, im confused here? Is this a stock 600 or are they tweaking with the motor also?

stainless 05-16-2012 06:58 PM

Trim indicator

rlj676 05-16-2012 07:06 PM

One of my cable indicators doesn't work.........nothings perfect.

Smarty 05-16-2012 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by stainless (Post 3689288)
Trim indicator

A man with the thousands of hours of seat experience and builder of boats for nearly 20+ years is allowed a mulligan, good thing no one was hurt, that is what matters most.

Least important, as far as 110 mph with a stock 600, I am too the doubter. Just because it is said doesn't make it true. It would be quite an achievement if it is that fast with an undoctored Mercury 600.

Smarty 05-16-2012 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Sbarberdds (Post 3689287)
Was it trim indicators or a bad wave as the article quoted one of the passengers, does it go 110 or 103mph, im confused here? Is this a stock 600 or are they tweaking with the motor also?

Valid questions based on the information given.

Jupiter Sunsation 05-16-2012 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3688796)
My active thunder had the same exact thing happen to it and according to the experts on here, it wasn't worth putting back together. So, what's your opinions on resale value of this submarine??

A. Your boat needed power/drives
B. Your boat wasn't going to be restored by the factory as this OL will.
C. Your ads/ebay listings were very vague even after people asked direct questions. Kind of felt like Benjy on the Howard Stern show......can't ever get a short, precise answer!

PARADISE ISLAND 05-16-2012 08:42 PM

:angry-smiley-038:[Isn't going to be restored by the factory as this OL will.:bsflag:#1 A dunked boat is a dunked boat!You can replace everything on that boat and somthing will come back to haunt you:party-smiley-004:

272bajadriver 05-16-2012 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3689156)
“We weren’t going very fast,” Mr. Makepeace said, as he was being tended to by medical personnel. “We just kind of caught a wave.”

http://www.eastbayri.com/news/2012/may/15/boat-flip/

I think the tab indicator malfunction is a convenient excuse. A light single engine boat like that you should be able to know were the tabs are blindfolded.

Then maybe next time Outerlimits should call you and have you test drive their boat! Hell maybe you can drive it "blinfolded". :lolhit:

On a different note glad nobody got hurt. Accidents happen no matter what but thankfully everyone in this case made it home in one piece and ultimately that's all that matters! That's one fast little rocket, wish them nothing but the best they definitely build a nice product.

lvrepoman 05-17-2012 12:17 AM

Just heard today. Super glad to hear that nobody was hurt. Mike, I know you'll be lurking on here somewhere quietly... Great job on the new boat. Now hurry up and get that bad boy back together, I'll be expecting to see you at the LOTO shootout with that beast, I missed my chance to line up with you at DS for the fastest single vee... ;-) I know your the last person I need to say this to, but be careful... These high hp singles aren't very forgiving and have a tendency to bite us when we aren't paying attention!

thirdchildhood 05-17-2012 06:14 AM

My boat is only 22' 6" and only runs low 80s but I have never needed tab indicators. You drop the tabs only as needed and know where they are by the feel of the boat. It takes time to learn but there are boats like mine running over 90 mph with no tab indicators and these are driver's boat that require a lot of input via constant small changes in tab and trim when driving fast. Mine has been running on the Great Lakes for 7 years now and I have hit my fair share of rogue waves and freighter wakes and not flipped the boat. If these were test drivers pushing it to the limit in turns then I understand how it could happen but if a new design has already overturned at moderate speed then maybe they need to find out why before more of them end up in the hands of inexperienced boaters. JMO and excuse me for telling it like it is.

Indy 05-17-2012 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3689563)
JMO and excuse me for telling it like it is.

Gimme a break will ya? WTF do you know?

thirdchildhood 05-17-2012 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Indy (Post 3689566)
Gimme a break will ya? WTF do you know?

Excuse me? I know what I just said. How to drive a fast single in rough water without tab indicators and without flipping it off of rouge waves. WTF do YOU know?

Indy 05-17-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3689569)
Excuse me? I know what I just said. How to drive a fast single in rough water without tab indicators and without flipping it off of rouge waves. WTF do YOU know?

Oh...thank goodness...I guess that slams the door shut on the OL29, thanks for saving the poor suckers that were going to purchase this machine.


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