Why don't you call Outerlimits and ask them yourself if you need the answer so badly? I'm sure when you tell them you are very interested in buying a new 29 they will fill you in. Wait...are you interested in buying a new 29?

No point in OL posting about it. It's just ammo for keyboard jokeys to make it through their boring days

+1 i still run My boat every weekend.

Exactly smarty, just interested what truly happened, heard so many versions. Did fiore post somewhere on here his version?

If asking a simple question about the safety of a new boat for any potential ol customers is such a secret there might be a problem. I just think the truth should be told once and for all by ol so we all know the facts. Who knows i may be a customer in the near future.

No he did not. Here is how I can make that claim.

1. http://www.eastbayri.com/news/2012/may/15/boat-flip/ -1direct passenger statement:

A rescue boat transported one of the boat’s occupants, John Makepeace, to the shore where rescue personnel were awaiting.

“We weren’t going very fast,” Mr. Makepeace said, as he was being tended to by medical personnel. “We just kind of caught a wave.”


2. http://midwestboatparty.com/forum/sh...-the-29OL-Roll

Second-hand information:

Mike Fiore and friend were out pushing the limits and having fun in the 29. It ran well into the 100's with some tweaks. Mike called me last night and said he had a tab dragging and the indicator did not reflect that. He went into the turn, said it didn't feel quiet right an pushed through it. Rolled and ejected them. Both are alright. Mike was upbeat about the issue. Said its a mechanical issue and the supplier would rectify the issue. It will be back on the water ASAP!

This is all in earlier posts, hope that answers your question. There is not a direct statement from Michael Fiore, there are statements in this thread from WhippleCharged and Animalhouse (OL affiliated) that support the trim indicator failure/tab deployed scenario.

I like the boat, but I wouldn't spend $200K for it, if it were $100K then I would be real intertested; I am not their target customer.

What the hell is going on here. it's a boat, any boat can flip/roll/sink, Look at the Titanic for crying out loud.

That is why they test and test boats, if there is a problem it will be fixed, no matter if its a tab or whatever it's not like we are talking about a Commander boat here. ( but that's another story and Outerlimits is way above and beyond the quality of a Commander)

Ask Tres Martin how many times he has been thrown from his own boat, he pushed and pushed the limits so he knew what to look out for.

I doubt that there is a single high performance boat manufacture that hasn't had one of there boats underwater.

What is going on is that there was such a tremendous amount of hype with the future design of the 29' OL, the build of the 29' OL, and then finally the finished product.

Now that the boat is finally here it has an accident, people are curious.

As far as getting wet, I have been boating for 40+ years and have only capsized once, I was six years old in an 11' aluminum boat with a 5.5 hp Evinrude with a tiller arm jumping boat waves in Absecon inlet (1971). As an adult either driving or a passenger, in a Cigarette, Magnum, Pantera, multiple Donzi's, and now a Phantom, I was never ejected or capsized, nor do I have an expectation of such an event occurring.

And I have been a passenger boat that made an extreme hard turn at 85 mph without hesitation (boat handled great) or incident (27' Magnum Sport, my father was driving had to make an emergency turn). So maybe it it not always the drivers fault, some boats just maybe be safer than other boats.

I am not the least bit concerned at the present time about whether the 29' OL is safe or unsafe, it has been written in post #161 that the boat felt fine when E Colby was driving it, and I will take his word as truthful and intelligent, so to me the boat is OK. I will not be buying this 29' OL so I am done with this thread, bottonline - no one was hurt, that is all that matters. Accidents happen.

It has been an interesting thread.

Dragon and Statement?

I'm just stating the FACTS for those who are interested. The point is this. Do you think the passenger going out for a demo run knows as much as the builder/ owner / driver/ throttleman ? Do you think the passenger was aware of the exact drive, tab , throttle and trim settings to the extent that Mike Fiore was? May there have been a wave involved thad due to the altered tab setting cause the boat to react in a way mike didnt anticipate? Yes. It was a simple mechanical mishap, stop trying to make it into something that it's not . Plain and simple.