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PARADISE ISLAND 05-28-2012 10:30 PM

Get a petition signed that for many years you had access to the land!Then call local news media maybe they'll go for the hook not easy when feds own or re zone it:angry-smiley-038:

low_psi 05-28-2012 10:32 PM

From what I read in the paper this evening the "Friends of the Detorit River" are fighting the no trespass. Not sure what the result will be.... What really pisses me off is the Agent that gave me crap this weekend said they closed it to avoid the boat burings, sexual assualts, etc. The boat burnings stop over 10 freaking years ago, and the sexual assault happend 3-4 years ago (I believe). I am not defending a sexual assault, but that can happen anywhere....

Yes, there were some real A-hole punks breaking glass and over all trashing the island. No doubt about it. But, the people that used the island often (like myself) did our part to clean up after the little a-holes..... The govt. should come up with a plan to not allow overnight stays (which is the way Celeron Island is), and maybe provide some sort of patrol to keep the little bast^rd punks in line.... What really gets to me, is Grosse Ile Residents were complaining about the noise... Hey Grosse Ile Residents, it is your spoiled rotten little punk a$$ kids that are the ones coming over in the middle of the night on daddys boat trashing the place and making all the noise...............

It just really sucks for me and others that respected the island and used it as a place for family outings. My daughter has grown up on that island...

BBCLiberator 05-28-2012 11:28 PM

I couldn't agree more. I had also heard the Friends of the Detroit River were fighting it, but haven't seen anything official. Unfortunately I don't see it changing, at least for a while. It always amazed me to see how much crap people would leave behind. It always sucked to watch people leave and me loading a trash bag full of garbage in my boat...most of the trash not being mine. Or all the people pull up with dogs, let them of to take a dump and not pick it up...so while I think it sucks, I am not really surprised. It sucks...maybe we can fill the rock wall in with sand and refer to it as the sandbar ;)

PARADISE ISLAND 05-29-2012 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by BBCLiberator (Post 3697340)
I couldn't agree more. I had also heard the Friends of the Detroit River were fighting it, but haven't seen anything official. Unfortunately I don't see it changing, at least for a while. It always amazed me to see how much crap people would leave behind. It always sucked to watch people leave and me loading a trash bag full of garbage in my boat...most of the trash not being mine. Or all the people pull up with dogs, let them of to take a dump and not pick it up...so while I think it sucks, I am not really surprised. It sucks...maybe we can fill the rock wall in with sand and refer to it as the sandbar ;)

Tell them to set up cameras and hand out fines!:whistle:Just behave while you are on film:daz:

averagejoe074 05-29-2012 03:48 PM

it sucks about sugar island....lets hope the idiots dont ruin Celeron Island for us now...was over on monday...it was a nice peaceful crowd...

low_psi 05-29-2012 04:41 PM

We drove by, but it was pretty full by the time we were there....

averagejoe074 05-30-2012 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by low_psi (Post 3697811)
We drove by, but it was pretty full by the time we were there....

yea only way to get a good spot on the beach there you gotta get out early...the g/f and I got out there at about 11:30 in the morning..at that time the beach was about half full...

CigDaze 05-30-2012 08:49 AM

When it comes to ownership, land rights, easements, etc., the majority of the country and states go by the MHHW line (the average of the higher high water height of each tidal day observed and averaged over the National Tidal Datum Epoch).

However, when it comes to the environmental idiots, there's no logical reasoning behind anything they do, they just make the sht up as they go.

We lost one of our best boating party hangouts down here a few years ago and it is now a "bird sanctuary." Birdsht, I say. There's nothing on there except sea gulls, but go within ten yards of the shoreline and the nazi azzholes are all over you.

Michael1 05-30-2012 11:48 AM

Refuge areas are not bound by tide lines. Get a map. It's the only way to tell, and then keep it onboard so if they tell you to leave a certain area, you can phone his/her supervisor and complain.

Michael

low_psi 05-30-2012 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Michael1 (Post 3698553)
Refuge areas are not bound by tide lines. Get a map. It's the only way to tell, and then keep it onboard so if they tell you to leave a certain area, you can phone his/her supervisor and complain.

Michael

I have yet to see the map, as they recently aquired the property. I think they are just making $hit up as they go right now. At the "town hall" meeting they had in regard to the island, the speaker said they will enforce to water line (so I am told, I missed the meeting). Yet the agent that hassled me last weekend says if my feet are touching ground (even in the water) he will write me a ticket next time as "I have been officially warned". I have a feeling it is going to take someone getting arrested and fighting it for there to be an actual boundry set... THis whole make it up as you go is total BS!


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